Cyclic Experimentation Set x01 - [Game Over]

[Bunnylover]

I like the fact that you point out that you haven't voted. Aren't votes the most powerful tool townies have? Don't they lead to VC analysis? Wouldn't scum want to be left off of VC analysis? (credit goes to MoI for teaching me these things in Secret Invasion Mafia).

Vote I am Innocent

A quick scan through IAI's ISO show's 5 votes made throughout the course of the game. Given how easy it is to check this out I don't like how happily you seemed to have jumped on it. You obviously misread something by IAI if you thought he said he hadn't voted. I'd expect a townie to check that out first, I'd expect a scum to jump on it in eagerness to press another point against your chosen target.

Yeah, I said I have

had

one vote the entire game, not

made

one vote the entire game. Very scummy move indeed by Bunnylover.

Then my apologize.

I have had one vote the entire game, a RVS vote.

This to me does not read as you are explaining. I think its the part of the RVS vote that threw me to my conclusion (like your only vote has been your RVS vote).

Please list your top 4 scummiest players.

What do you think of Wrath Child's last post?

1) TMH.
2) Saint.
3) Was Parama.
4) I am Innocent.

My town reads are Pops and SC if that matters any.

[WrathChild]

The catch is that we have to rely on cooperation by the Bus Driver and the Mafia to make all this ability passing plan to work. I would rather just nail scum now.

I see the merrit of your plan, but think too much can go wrong at night.

[I Am Innocent]

Please list your top 4 scummiest players.

What do you think of Wrath Child's last post?

1) TMH.
2) Saint.
3) Was Parama.
4) I am Innocent.

My town reads are Pops and SC if that matters any.

Town reads with this many players is not a bad thing to put out there.

Can you replace Parama with a 4th suspect, he is dead BTW.

~Quote tags fixed.

[I Am Innocent]

The catch is that we have to rely on cooperation by the Bus Driver and the Mafia to make all this ability passing plan to work. I would rather just nail scum now.

I see the merrit of your plan, but think too much can go wrong at night.

Who are your top 4 suspects?

[I Am Innocent]

Mod, can you fix my tags in Post 1452 when you have a chance.

[themanhimself]

Could either IAI pr bunny lover download their avatar and just invert the color in paint or photoshop or something? That would entirely solve the problem

[WrathChild]

The catch is that we have to rely on cooperation by the Bus Driver and the Mafia to make all this ability passing plan to work. I would rather just nail scum now.

I see the merrit of your plan, but think too much can go wrong at night.

Who are your top 4 suspects?

-Obviously TMH is #1
-Lynchmepls, continues to lockjaw on me and misreps me consistantly, pushed really hard for the DBE bomb.
-Bunnylover, the whole handoff with dead MoI thing, the only 1 vanilla thing, may have been distancing himself from the DBE town-flip by not wanting to pass it to her.
-Lateralus, I still have this nagging issues with all the leading he did Day 1, on top of that he really has contributed very little. Of his entire ISO, the only real posts have been ISO#22 and #57 out of 61. Also, Lateralus seems to have slunk into the shadows since 1/15/11.

[LimMePls]

Lynchmepls... pushed really hard for the DBE bomb.

QFT. Her play was scummy as hell. What exactly was scummy about me pushing for her death?

[Saint]

I skipped ahead just for you, and I'm willing to buy some temporary leave due to other games, but from December 22 all the way to January 6 (two weeks)? And you were literally incapable of posting anything convincing until then?

There was a couple of little holidays that fell in here, you might have heard of them. They're called Christmas and New Years. Some of us weren't available for mafia during that time.

For instance, you point out that "Only shows up around Page 20", as though there is a scummy reason for this, when the simple truth is that I was V/LA over that time, and had announced it clearly to the mod and in the thread.

And you'll notice that's not the excuse IAI gave, but thanks for stepping up to bat for him.

Cut.

"Only shows up around Page 20" more referred to a lack of content to go on up to that point.
Now that I have more, rest assured I don't think differently.

My gut tells me

people

would love to have Saint (or should I say Vi) out of this game.

That's not the word I saw before. I'm sorry v.v

lol funny overreaction
but i didn't like the quote you quoted either when I read it.

[Saint]

Are you saying "more worthy lynch candidate" from your perspective, or theirs? Give me an example of what exactly you're referring to, please.

I am saying all four people you want to see vigged are town reads for me. Not one scummy player like bunnylover or Wrath Child, who hammered Powerox very shortly after he claimed a role (who was the competing lynch again....oh yeah, TMH)? Or how about Pops, who gave the green light to bunnylover / wrath child instead of discussing pros / cons for keeping the role in the game. These are a couple to name a few.

Are these town reads for you?

i really like this post

[Saint]

Still sick; just popping in with what I think.

I'm in favor of vigging themanhimself, Saint, and to some extent Parama. TMH and Saint I've already explained why I think of scummy; Parama has made it clear he refuses to contribute.

any explanation you've had towards me has been misrepresentation
your slanderousness, however, i am going to hold you liable for in the later stages of the game
if you wish to not have a misunderstanding in lylo as town, you should rectify your behavior towards me
im not omgusy, and i'm not sold you're scum yet, but just say that you are coasting and lurking and casting suspicion without REALLY contributing to the town while just APPEARING to scumhunt which is scum 101

just sayin'

[Saint]

Uh...

daykills are still protown, bad as things are

actually, daykills/gunsmith style (getting a gun) is actually VERY null for me
however, the manner in which he went about it was scummy

[Saint]

I am not fully convinced TMH is scum, but he surely isn't the town-slot that I believed he was earlier on in the game.
I had considered passing my ability to MoI, so I can't blame quadz for that, even if it is suspicious.
It's not vote worthy, and is more leaning than damning, but it just FEELS like an easy copout.

However, if he was scum, I don't feel like he would mention it at all.
thoughts??

[diddin]

Ok. We should lynch TMH today because if he is scum, he could just pass the dayvig ability to the player his team is going to nightkill, sending it to "the void."

unvote, Vote: themanhimself

That's a self-defeating argument considering that you're in possession of an ability that utterly nullifies that point

Good point.

TMH and Diddin, does the Bus Driver ability allow you to send someones power to anybody, or does it have to be yourself?

This is true. Now if we don't lynch tmh I'll take the dayvig ability back to save it from the void if that's ok with everyone.

[I Am Innocent]

Ok. We should lynch TMH today because if he is scum, he could just pass the dayvig ability to the player his team is going to nightkill, sending it to "the void."

unvote, Vote: themanhimself

That's a self-defeating argument considering that you're in possession of an ability that utterly nullifies that point

Good point.

TMH and Diddin, does the Bus Driver ability allow you to send someones power to anybody, or does it have to be yourself?

This is true. Now if we don't lynch tmh I'll take the dayvig ability back to save it from the void if that's ok with everyone.

If you take the dayvig ability back but are targeted, doesn't the ability get lost from the game? Wouldn't that be worse than going to the void?

Either send it to a random player or leave it with TMH. That would be my suggestion.

[I Am Innocent]

[rant]If only we had a doctor alive and not outted, we could announce who we were sending the dayvig to and that secret doctor could protect said player...[/rant]

[Bunnylover]

Please list your top 4 scummiest players.

What do you think of Wrath Child's last post?

1) TMH.
2) Saint.
3) Was Parama.
4) I am Innocent.

My town reads are Pops and SC if that matters any.

Town reads with this many players is not a bad thing to put out there.

Can you replace Parama with a 4th suspect, he is dead BTW. [/quote]
Remove Parama and you have my reads.
No one else has pinged me as scum.

Also did anyone else notice this?
AE8363413 - DarlaBlueEyes [Narsis][Eruci.][Scrambled by Virus.][Day 2.]

The Narsis part is scratched out in the front. Was this mod error?

[Bunnylover]

Btw I changed my avatar

[q21]

Now at Page 30. Current standings:

SCUM

*RC
*q21 - Was kind enough to commit a personal scumtell. He only seems to show up to keep pushing the drama around; I'm looking for his posts as they come and each time I'm like "is that it?". He also managed to take E-Cookie from his top scumspect to his fifth behind four of my Town reads in 546.
*4 Other people.
*EtherealCookie/nhammen - nhammen's catchup post wasn't convincing but not really damning either. I don't like dropping E-Cookie so low but the people above need to get called out.

I show up when I can and when I post I generally try to contribute. If that results in pushing a few people's buttons and, as you call it, pushing the drama around, so be it.
I NEVER at an point in this game have had EtherealCookie as my "top scumspect". Never. In my last post before going V/LA (263) I didn't even suspect him enough to list him as a scumread. In 546/547 I do list him as a scumread, albeit a lesser one - if anything, that's a promotion up my scumlist, not dropping him down it.
But even if I did do exactly what you said I did, dropping EC down my scum list in favour of other suspects, lets have a look at what you've just done. Oh, you've just dropped EC (replaced by nhammen) from position 1 to position 7... demoting him down your scumlist in favour of other suspects... even further down than I allegedly did. Not only have you misrepped me with regard to my EC suspicion, you're a hypocrite too.

[Nero Cain]

The Prama shot was horrible.

We lynch WC today.

Then TMH and CKD and maybe Quadz tomorrow.

[WrathChild]

The Prama shot was horrible.

We lynch WC today.

Then TMH and CKD and maybe Quadz tomorrow.

Case?

[diddin]

DBE replaced Narsis, Bunnylover.

I'm down with a WC lynch today

unvote Vote: WrathChild

[StrangerCoug]

Mod: Out of V/LA.

I seriously thought that was IAI.

Please change your avatar. If I get you one will you use it?

I had been confusing Bunnylover and I Am Innocent as well, and I was wondering why the former's avatar still was what it was (Quirkytown, the game in which I forced him to have that avatar, ended months ago).

I'm disappointed in how the Parama kill turned out, but hey. As I said while I was sick, he had it coming.

Uh, yeah. Especially if he flips "Scum Group 1".

How do you know this is a multiball?

FoS.

Still sick; just popping in with what I think.

I'm in favor of vigging themanhimself, Saint, and to some extent Parama. TMH and Saint I've already explained why I think of scummy; Parama has made it clear he refuses to contribute.

any explanation you've had towards me has been misrepresentation
your slanderousness, however, i am going to hold you liable for in the later stages of the game
if you wish to not have a misunderstanding in lylo as town, you should rectify your behavior towards me
im not omgusy, and i'm not sold you're scum yet, but just say that you are coasting and lurking and casting suspicion without REALLY contributing to the town while just APPEARING to scumhunt which is scum 101

just sayin'

Oh, do we have to go through this again? ><

Where is curiouskarmadog?

[Nero Cain]

Where is curiouskarmadog?

probally hiding in his scum QT. He was the ideal shot for today. I would like to lynch him but he has a stupid unlynchable today.

[Saint]

Ok. We should lynch TMH today because if he is scum, he could just pass the dayvig ability to the player his team is going to nightkill, sending it to "the void."

unvote, Vote: themanhimself

Objection - this assumes that we get the Virus back from the Void, since the daykill needs the Virus to activate first.

Also if we have to go through with the Virus mess again this game will become especially unpleasant.

I show up when I can and when I post I generally try to contribute. If that results in pushing a few people's buttons and, as you call it, pushing the drama around, so be it.
I NEVER at an point in this game have had EtherealCookie as my "top scumspect". Never. In my last post before going V/LA (263) I didn't even suspect him enough to list him as a scumread. In 546/547 I do list him as a scumread, albeit a lesser one - if anything, that's a promotion up my scumlist, not dropping him down it.
But even if I did do exactly what you said I did, dropping EC down my scum list in favour of other suspects, lets have a look at what you've just done. Oh, you've just dropped EC (replaced by nhammen) from position 1 to position 7... demoting him down your scumlist in favour of other suspects... even further down than I allegedly did. Not only have you misrepped me with regard to my EC suspicion, you're a hypocrite too.

This argument is retarded for reasons that should be obvious, but.
1) Again, you only show up when it's personally convenient - either to maintain the status quo or to defend yourself in this case. Nothing pro-Town about it.
2) Oh dear, I dropped EC down.

CLEARLY

the entire thought is invalid... When hypocrisy becomes a scumtell, let me know.
*I'll grant that at best your suspicion of EC was waffling. I misread the level of your EC hate because calling out EC was the major reason I liked your first real post.
*Look at the people who you put in front of EC.

Vote Powerrox93

Other scum reads at the moment: Nero Cain. diddin. Less so, themanhimself and EC.

I'm willing to bet every last one of these are Town.

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RedCoyote and multiball - If this turns out to be a multiball I'll grant a lot of my reads get weird.
That said, it's one more reason to lynch RedCoyote ASAP.