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K if me and Poker are scum the pairings work.
CES and I crossfire
Scot and Poker crossfire.
We all FUCKINGLOL at your reads being the complete opposite of the truth,
and then GG TOWN WINFate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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ya, I'm totally down with CES><Fate Poker><Scot
CES is pretty town and to suggest otherwise is silly
Pokerface has been scum all game
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The only real wild card is Scot, who's had a grand total of 12 posts this game, though due to a broken computer, so I have absolutely no read on him
So....ya.AlyG: If he's not a joke account then what is he? He starts bandwagons on himself and insults other people.-
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Yay sorry for putting all the pressure on you UA. And you aren't the only bad person at mafia. My skills are best set for certain situations
I was thinking me shooting CES would be best but I guess this works as well. I have mixed views on both fate and CES so I guess I just have to be wrong once. Got no firm read on scot.
My first impulse is usually best, Fate's jump on xalxe when he could have stayed on me, makes me think he is town. He was pushing real hard on me before that so I doubt he would have given up as scum so easily. CES didn't push as much and was one of the last to jump ship. Scot was one of the first to vote xalxe and with little reason and so xalxe and kats getting caught working together against Fate as scott wasn't arround to help them seems probable. Kats play felt indictive of a player that didn't know what to do when xalxe was going down and was conflicted in helping and attacking fate after that. Scum play in general from the 2 of them felt unplanned. Don't see fate, kats, xalxe masterminding a game where their intent was to clear fate so he would survive it all. And even if they had that kind of master plan CES and Scott wouldn't go along with it. I'll take the odds that scum weren't real organized and didn't take real advantage of their talk on day 1
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Because my plan is guaranteed to win this for town based on obvscum+obvscum.
Now you're just trying to prey on UA's "PokerFace" suspicions, and try to get teamed up with him. I wouldn't be ALL THAT surprised if you two were scum.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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Let's break this post down a bit:Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Fate's behaviour isn't exactly consistent with that of someone who's about to lose either.
You're saying that I'm not scum because I'm not acting like I'm about to lose.
Which is, ya know, OBVIOUS unless you want to claim scum with me. As long as you know you are town then this win is in the bag, from your point of view.
That said, unless you're scum WITH PokerFace (which I can't see at all, scotmany HAS to be scum based on his shitposts today) I don't see the motivation for your actions as scum.... you're more likely town that is dead set on Pokerscum and afraid Scot is his partner.
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Weren't the "obvscum" scot and me (and note that my plan would still be a win for town then)?Fate wrote:Because my plan is guaranteed to win this for town based on obvscum+obvscum.
Now you're just trying to prey on UA's "PokerFace" suspicions, and try to get teamed up with him. I wouldn't be ALL THAT surprised if you two were scum.
?? Under UA's plan we totally lose to a PokerFace-Scot scum team (which is equivalent to you being town).Fate wrote:As long as you know you are town then this win is in the bag, from your point of view.
I'll give it a try.Fate wrote:You'll have to convince me why PokerFace is scum, using an actual CASE with points and such.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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I wasn't aware he was a different person than you.
My thoughts are point on.
Scot is scum.
I thought you were the buddy.
Now you're proposing a plan as if you were town and Poker is the buddy.
I'm willing to listen.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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Pure rhetorical jibberjabber - an obvious sign that PokerFace wants to justify his vote, not find scum.PokerFace (#55) wrote:Ahh but in voting me for a reason, you are also blatantly trying to end the RVS
Feels off.PokerFace (#55) wrote:Your wagon is gone so start your meta
Posturing.PokerFace (#65) wrote:Well whatever I guess if you don't want to join in it now its no fun anymore
On Page 3.PokerFace (#65) wrote:What's the case on katsuki?
Reasoning is mostly okay here, albeit unconvincing, but 1) "first to use FoS" is a very weird criterion since I don't see how the order in which it happened should matter and 2) Fate was the first to FoS. Looks like distancing.PokerFace (#65) wrote:I'll jump on Xalxe since he was first to use Fos. When you are this early in the game an Fos has no point but trying to avoid getting suspected or making any waves. He should have just voted as I don't think there is anything truly wrong with omgus in RVS or this early in the game
This supports my previous accusation. Note that Xalxe conveniently got distracted by Fate and never mentions PF again, although to be fair, he failed to mention quite a few (including scot).Xalxe (#73) wrote:PF backed up his vote. I'll deal with him in a minute.
Obvious under-the-table jab.PokerFace (#188) wrote:UA gave omgus as a reason to keep voting me. I don't really consider that a scum tell early on in the game especially since I was primarily trying to get fun out of his stitch but aparently he didn't want to wait to try it later, oh well. I did find it interesting that his logic was rather counter intuitive.
He misread Hoopla's perfectly role-neutral statement here; not sure if this is a honest mistake. Could easily be role-fishing.PokerFace (#188) wrote:So first you say we shouldn't claim or wifom it and then you totatally just did one of those things and pointed to the scum to off Fate?
Pointless jab.PokerFace (#188) wrote:If he was town he wouldn't need to cover his tracks
His entire attack in #188 on Hoopla feels thoroughly unconvincing. It all seems to be along the lines of "I disagree with this course of action." rather than "This is scummy, because...".
Doesn't specify a preference for Hoopla over Fate yet goes with the pressureless Hooplavote over the useful Fatevote. I can think of at least 3 possible scum motivations here:PokerFace (#188) wrote:Yay fritz is confusing and I am leaning scum on hoopla and Fate. feel stronger about them than i did about xaixe earlier.
unvote, vote: hoopla
1) Scum decided to make a concerted push on Fate to avoid the Xalxelynch (a not unreasonable supposition as evidenced by how well we're doing now after the Xalxelynch), but PF thinks it would be too obvious due to Xalxe doing the same in #187, the preceding post.
2) He'd rather not rock the boat with a Fatevote.
3) He doesn't want to be accused of sheeping since his case on Fate was mostly borrowed.
Unexplained switch on Fate (quite possibly a reaction to people calling the PokerFace-Xalxe connection I just mentioned); brings up Hoopla's "soft claim" again, don't see a pro-town motive for that if he isn't even suspicious of her.PokerFace (#227) wrote:After reading posts like these I am re considering my reasoning I am starting to consider hoopla is town and thought fate was town as apposed to scum defending scum or scum buddying. It kinda makse sence. Only thing that don't make sence is where she almost soft claimed too.
More posturing. Why not simply remove it? This doesn't help anyone, just takes up space.PokerFace (#227) wrote:@Sudo
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Are you voting Fate because you think he is scum for acting anti-town with no good reason OR do you think he is town acting anti-town and should stop or be killed?
I just read sudo's last post.
As I mentioned then, this looks more like a knee-jerk reaction to someone admitting uncertainty than someone scrutinising Sudo's posts to determine his alignment.PokerFace (#227) wrote:This part hear seems to suggest you have some doubt or you are trying not to get blamed for him possibly being town and I think scum would be more prone to worying about being blamed than town, especially before fate's flip. feels like you know how he'd flip,
"Starting" is a very weird and possibly revealing choice of language.PokerFace (#227) wrote:so yay I am starting to get a scum read on sudo too.
Least convincing Xalxecase ever. Not sure why he's already thinking ahead to the deadline - not a town mindset.PokerFace (#227) wrote:Xalxe your play so far seems kinda angry. You say you agree with UA and sudo and then yell at them for making you feel useless. Also to note your laugh at my post. I'm however not sure why you are disturbed when you had 2 votes at first seeing you disturbed at when you were l-1 is expected but again why angry at people not voting you? Your actions feel wierd, couple that with what you said earlier and what I thought before where you didn't make waves, makes me think you may be worth the deadline lynch. But its not time for that yet I think right now I am waiting on hooplas response before i get off her
Tries to spin Sudo explaining himself into something scummy.PokerFace (#235) wrote:I can't say i agree with your first sentence cause it still feels like he was acknowledging it to agar, as though he didn't want agar to go after him.
Overly lynch-orientated. He'd already talked about Xalxe and Hoopls plenty.PokerFace (#239) wrote:I'll go over xalxe and hoops and give what I think of them later
(referring to his previous post) A telling assumption, especially since he totally wasn't voting Xalxe.PokerFace (#277) wrote:that last part is asuming xalxe is scum if he ain't i will have to rethink alot
Weaksauce explanation. Again,PokerFace (#278) wrote:fate put up some defense to accusations on him while xalxe put up nothing much but an attack back on fate so yay i'm not unhappy with how things turned out and think that was better choice out of those 2he was still voting Hoopls here.
Seems oddly deferential to the town's wishes - popcorn mass claim was obviously the right move.PokerFace (#332) wrote:Should we massclaim and if so, which claim method should we use (Popcorn, random, etc)
Some sweet post-mortem distancing. Xalxe's attack came way too late for it to be chainsawing.PokerFace (#340) wrote:If anyone was chainsawing it was xalxe
Comes out of nowhere.PokerFace (#355) wrote:I am fairly certain scotmany is scumScumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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I want a more wholistic approach than just his ISO.
You also didn't mention a key point, which I think is the biggest scumtell Poker has committed. (Hint: He did it today)Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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Oh hey.PokerFace (#355) wrote:I am fairly certain scotmany is scum
Is this is the key point?PokerFace (#379) wrote:Got no firm read on scot.
In any case I will note that I didn't ISO PokerFace but re-read the game and the voting Hoopls near deadline is a dead give-away given his anti-Xalxe behaviour around the same time.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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something is not right here. I ain't read much of the recent exchange just a little arround the vote count but it looks like CES complained because he wanted to shoot me anddidn't vote. I understand he thinks i am scum but if he were scum he would want to be aligned with his partner so neither of them would die. As i know i am not said partner that puzzles me. either he wants vengence on me for ruining his chance at the win or he is town that honestly thinks i am scum. And I don't want to be paired with a townie, I'd rather hit scum so that town ultimatly wins. This means CES could be town
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Even if CES making a case on me makes him likly town voting No lynch now means he still won't hit me which means he'd hit scum fate. i am uncertain as to who of fate or ces is the real scum but I can tell they are not together and thats enough for me to realize they aren't both scum and me shooting scott is for the winCogito Ergo Sum wrote:Case:
Pure rhetorical jibberjabber - an obvious sign that PokerFace wants to justify his vote, not find scum.PokerFace (#55) wrote:Ahh but in voting me for a reason, you are also blatantly trying to end the RVS
Feels off.PokerFace (#55) wrote:Your wagon is gone so start your meta
Posturing.PokerFace (#65) wrote:Well whatever I guess if you don't want to join in it now its no fun anymore
I was basically trying to have some lulz
On Page 3.PokerFace (#65) wrote:What's the case on katsuki?
As i was having lulz i obviously wasn't paying real attention so I didn't know what it was
Reasoning is mostly okay here, albeit unconvincing, but 1) "first to use FoS" is a very weird criterion since I don't see how the order in which it happened should matter and 2) Fate was the first to FoS. Looks like distancing.PokerFace (#65) wrote:I'll jump on Xalxe since he was first to use Fos. When you are this early in the game an Fos has no point but trying to avoid getting suspected or making any waves. He should have just voted as I don't think there is anything truly wrong with omgus in RVS or this early in the game
Fate was the first to FOS someone? either I didn't see it or he justified more strong opinions elsewhere. The point is I don't think xalxe was voting anyone back then at all which would be indictive of wasting time and not making moves early in the game
This supports my previous accusation. Note that Xalxe conveniently got distracted by Fate and never mentions PF again, although to be fair, he failed to mention quite a few (including scot).Xalxe (#73) wrote:PF backed up his vote. I'll deal with him in a minute.
Obvious under-the-table jab.PokerFace (#188) wrote:UA gave omgus as a reason to keep voting me. I don't really consider that a scum tell early on in the game especially since I was primarily trying to get fun out of his stitch but aparently he didn't want to wait to try it later, oh well. I did find it interesting that his logic was rather counter intuitive.
I still thought him saying i was trying to break randomness and voting for it was interesting
He misread Hoopla's perfectly role-neutral statement here; not sure if this is a honest mistake. Could easily be role-fishing.PokerFace (#188) wrote:So first you say we shouldn't claim or wifom it and then you totatally just did one of those things and pointed to the scum to off Fate?
Pointless jab.PokerFace (#188) wrote:If he was town he wouldn't need to cover his tracks
His entire attack in #188 on Hoopla feels thoroughly unconvincing. It all seems to be along the lines of "I disagree with this course of action." rather than "This is scummy, because...".
Doesn't specify a preference for Hoopla over Fate yet goes with the pressureless Hooplavote over the useful Fatevote. I can think of at least 3 possible scum motivations here:PokerFace (#188) wrote:Yay fritz is confusing and I am leaning scum on hoopla and Fate. feel stronger about them than i did about xaixe earlier.
unvote, vote: hoopla
who did i talk more about in that post? Fate or hoopla? Hoopla and i felt stronger about her since I thought she had gone back on logic and safe claimed thinking she could get away with it since everyone was
1) Scum decided to make a concerted push on Fate to avoid the Xalxelynch (a not unreasonable supposition as evidenced by how well we're doing now after the Xalxelynch), but PF thinks it would be too obvious due to Xalxe doing the same in #187, the preceding post.
2) He'd rather not rock the boat with a Fatevote.
3) He doesn't want to be accused of sheeping since his case on Fate was mostly borrowed.
I disagreed with his actions and was not 100% sure he was scum. felt firmer abut hoops since I thught she went back on her own logic
Unexplained switch on Fate (quite possibly a reaction to people calling the PokerFace-Xalxe connection I just mentioned); brings up Hoopla's "soft claim" again, don't see a pro-town motive for that if he isn't even suspicious of her.PokerFace (#227) wrote:After reading posts like these I am re considering my reasoning I am starting to consider hoopla is town and thought fate was town as apposed to scum defending scum or scum buddying. It kinda makse sence. Only thing that don't make sence is where she almost soft claimed too.
More posturing. Why not simply remove it? This doesn't help anyone, just takes up space.PokerFace (#227) wrote:@Sudo
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Are you voting Fate because you think he is scum for acting anti-town with no good reason OR do you think he is town acting anti-town and should stop or be killed?
I just read sudo's last post.
Yay I thought about that and probably should have but I wanted to remark there for notes so i could use myself to remind myself what may be there
As I mentioned then, this looks more like a knee-jerk reaction to someone admitting uncertainty than someone scrutinising Sudo's posts to determine his alignment.PokerFace (#227) wrote:This part hear seems to suggest you have some doubt or you are trying not to get blamed for him possibly being town and I think scum would be more prone to worying about being blamed than town, especially before fate's flip. feels like you know how he'd flip,
"Starting" is a very weird and possibly revealing choice of language.PokerFace (#227) wrote:so yay I am starting to get a scum read on sudo too.
Least convincing Xalxecase ever. Not sure why he's already thinking ahead to the deadline - not a town mindset.PokerFace (#227) wrote:Xalxe your play so far seems kinda angry. You say you agree with UA and sudo and then yell at them for making you feel useless. Also to note your laugh at my post. I'm however not sure why you are disturbed when you had 2 votes at first seeing you disturbed at when you were l-1 is expected but again why angry at people not voting you? Your actions feel wierd, couple that with what you said earlier and what I thought before where you didn't make waves, makes me think you may be worth the deadline lynch. But its not time for that yet I think right now I am waiting on hooplas response before i get off her
Tries to spin Sudo explaining himself into something scummy.PokerFace (#235) wrote:I can't say i agree with your first sentence cause it still feels like he was acknowledging it to agar, as though he didn't want agar to go after him.
Overly lynch-orientated. He'd already talked about Xalxe and Hoopls plenty.PokerFace (#239) wrote:I'll go over xalxe and hoops and give what I think of them later
I was busy at work and not able to fully collect thoughts and figured i would be back on before deadline to sort it out. this applies to some stuff after this too
(referring to his previous post) A telling assumption, especially since he totally wasn't voting Xalxe.PokerFace (#277) wrote:that last part is asuming xalxe is scum if he ain't i will have to rethink alot
Weaksauce explanation. Again,PokerFace (#278) wrote:fate put up some defense to accusations on him while xalxe put up nothing much but an attack back on fate so yay i'm not unhappy with how things turned out and think that was better choice out of those 2he was still voting Hoopls here.
Seems oddly deferential to the town's wishes - popcorn mass claim was obviously the right move.PokerFace (#332) wrote:Should we massclaim and if so, which claim method should we use (Popcorn, random, etc)
Some sweet post-mortem distancing. Xalxe's attack came way too late for it to be chainsawing.PokerFace (#340) wrote:If anyone was chainsawing it was xalxe
Comes out of nowhere.PokerFace (#355) wrote:I am fairly certain scotmany is scum
Process of elimination since i was uncertain on you 2 and didn't think you were scum together. And read ain't strong or firm since its math and not based on what has happened in game
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