Blackest Night Mafia (GAME OVER!)

[danakillsu]

OP updated (I think).

[Andrius]

Hey tanstalas, while we wait for others (and a CC perhaps), which colors did you send in?

[tanstalas]

Green and Green - yeah I sent the same color in for both my primary and secondary

[Kublai Khan]

No counter-claim to tanstalas. But I'm having a hard time believing the green & green thing.

Then again, it's a ridiculous thing to lie about. So nevermind.

[tanstalas]

If you don't believe me you can ask the mods if I sent in the same colors for both choices, they probably won't confirm that I sent in green, but ask them if they would reject someone's choices if they sent in the same color for both

[KageLord]

So, I have a question for everyone while we wait for the missing posters. Given that dana said that the only things we know for sure about the setup are in the OP so the earlier find of 4-4-4-4-4-1 might not be true, do you still think it was 4-4-4-4-4-1 (without the black shenanigans) and why?

[danakillsu]

As I sent to KK, we will not confirm what we would do about any submission of colors, as this could potentially be game-breaking.

[Andrius]

KageLord, do you actually think that will DO anything?
you're just providing more setup speculation than we actually need at this point.
Not really helpful.
I'm waiting on the rest of the people to get in here.

[Andrius]

Ok.
So.
We need to hunt down the Black Recruiter. (And Red/Orange/Yellow as well, but).

You're lucky there's still one person left alive from Succession Mafia.

So. People who've posted since D4 broke:
kdub
dekes
tanstalas
andy
kk
nopoint
stove
kagelord


TRUANTS:
MoI
Kast
AGM

11 left alive...
I'm very convinced that MoI and AGM would both have submitted scum colors.
How exactly the Black Cult thing WORKS is beyond me. I highly doubt that it was here since the beginning.
HOWEVER.
This reminds me of ANOTHER famous Cult Rectuiter from ANOTHER choose your side game.
Who ALSO didn't start recruiting until N3.
HRMMMM

Prosecutor Andrius Kairys Walker calls AlmasterGM to the stand.

[Andrius]

p.s. Flavor would be much appreciated when you can, as the OP says Sensfan was a bomb and it'd be great to see who he took with him.
OH WAIT.
DISPARAGY.
tanstalas supposedly killed him.
Y U NOT DEAD TANNEBAUM?
YOU YELLOW?

[Andrius]

Town - or, at least we're not the black recruiter

kdub
andy
stove
kk

OH WAIT. IF, IN FACT, THE SETUP IS 4:4:4:4:4:4:1 THEN WE HAVE OUR TOWNIES.

So yeah.
I feel like now would be a good time for a massclaim. Especially with 4 kills a night and recruiters running around.
I'll decide the order, with KK, Kdub, The Stove and I as the final claimants, if we claim at all.
Why? Because we've killed some scum, but we've got a long way to go methinks.
AGM and MoI claim first, as they haven't posted yet. If scum have daytalk, they'd definitely NOT rush into the day like Dekes did. Just my opinion.

[Andrius]

Supplementals:

MoI and AGM are first because they have proveable histories if favoring scum/3rd party roles. And MoI should be dead by now and AGM is lurking (IMO). I've seen him do better.

RED: 3 dead, one to go
GREEN: 3 dead, one to go (ONE OF TANNY AND NOPOINT IS SCUM) which also means whoever claims Hal Jordan is dead.
VIOLET: 4 dead, all gone
INDIGO: 2 dead, two to go
YELLOW: 2 dead, two to go
ORANGE: 0 dead, 1 to go

And finally:
BADASS BLUE: ZERO DEAD (eat this scumbags), 4 alive.

[Andrius]

If we don't massclaim then all Blues claim.
Because I have a tinfoil I'd like proven.
Namely, the fact that no Blues have died either means:
A) we all have miraculously survived thus far
B) we are just really few in number
C) we're few in number AND the designated fakeclaim-color for scum, in which case we need to claim NOW so that I (and Blue Brother) can rip them to shreds while we're still here

[Kdub]

tans, why would you not shoot at Sens last night?

[Andrius]

Because Tans isn't a vig?
Because Tans is scum, perhaps?

Because I targeted Tans last night, and he didn't claim anything when he should have.
So, unless I was Roleblocked... Tans is scum.
Discuss.

[Kdub]

I believe you, but I want to have a chat with Magna before I say anything more on it.

[Andrius]

Not a problem bro.

Hey, you down for a Blue Corpsmen claim?

I understand. /WAITING FOR MAGNA AND AGM HRMMMMMM

[Kdub]

I do not think we should decide on mass claim until everyone has posted today. We can figure out what to do then depending on how many scum we've caught.

I would also like to point out that if we assume symmetry between the red and yellow factions, the last red scum is likely some sort of investigative role (I'm guessing rolecop or tracker), and the yellow scum probably have a goon and some sort of manipulative role (I'm guessing framer/tailor or a reflexive-something) left.

[tanstalas]

p.s. Flavor would be much appreciated when you can, as the OP says Sensfan was a bomb and it'd be great to see who he took with him.
OH WAIT.
DISPARAGY.
tanstalas supposedly killed him.
Y U NOT DEAD TANNEBAUM?
YOU YELLOW?

I shot Toog, not SensFan. We on the same page yet, Andy?

tans, why would you not shoot at Sens last night?

Because I felt like it would be a waste of a shot, the way Xvart was talking it sounded like they knew he had a PR and I figured that yellow would take SensFan out. I thought Toog may have been the SK so I took the shot at him.

[Andrius]

No comment on you being almost confirmed scum, huh?

[danakillsu]

Threw some flavor in there. I'm gonna see if I can find out what happened to RC.

[Dekes]

Last- Dekes, about the whole "No more lynching OJ/Red/Yellow" - Dana stated that our win cons wouldn't change. So unless either scum never had a "when your faction controls the town, or nothing can prevent the same" type wincon or they got modified wincons overnight, I don't foresee that happening.

Eh, I guess, that's what you call thinking from a town POV. Because exactly what I did was looking at my wincon and since it didn't specifically state that we have to eliminate red/yellow/orange I believed the alteration of the wincon to hunting Black Lantern could be explained that way. But you're right: the scum wincon should still contain something like "last faction standing", so we still have to eliminate them.

That's what I'm saying though. We have to choose our demons. 2 yellows left, 1 red, 1 SK, and up to 3 cult members. That leaves actual 4 town members left.

^ Just earned Black Lantern points as well. What makes you think that the Black Lantern faction can't recruit scum?

I want to hear what happened with Andy and NPIAU before deciding on MoI.

Yep, like I said. Looks like yellow scum.

I fear tans needs death. He reverted to his scum meta the last couple of days (recrution?) and there's no logical explanation to kill Toog with so much scummier people out there.
Plus, I don't understand why a Hal Jordan claim needs death. If anything, I'd believe Hal Jordan would b e the only sure bet of being in the game on the town side. And with three flipped green Lanterns, I think, all claimed Green Lanterns but Hal Jordan are scum now.

I once again need some flavor experts. I know, they probably have a fake claim, but is there a specific person flavor-wise that would indicate the Black Lantern recruiter?
And I'm not sure there are really already three Black Lanterns since only now that a Black Lantern has flipped, dana talked about an altered state of game. May or may not be indicative of when the Black Lanterns joined the game.

[tanstalas]

No comment on you being almost confirmed scum, huh?

Rather almost confirmed town is how I would look at it

[The Stove]

But two other bodies appear to have both been burnt by a red energy, which has formed a small crater in the town square. It looks like a cat and a blue-skinned woman.

That means Jack targeted Sens, who blew up.

Which leaves only two kills for our three (four?) scum factions.

AND Tans claims the Toog shot.

hum

[The Stove]

(-PZ)