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Andrius The Baker
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Yellow. Probably.
nopoint is orange.
Red is probably some sort of info role/ RBer.
And you WERE the competing lynch with Guderian D1, so I highly doubt those dead buddies of yours liked that very much.
Possibly black, of course. (Again, unless AGM is Black Recruiter in which he is all alone right now with ded Toog.)"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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Dekes Mafia Scum
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AlmasterGM Mafia Scum
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@Andrius - what if the mods predicted massclaim (HIGHLY LIKELY) an anti-massclaim mechanism was built into the setup (EG FAKECLAIMS, ALSO HIGHLY LIKELY) and this whole "lock into colors and claims" thing does nothing except tell all the scum who are PRs are?
Look, I get the appeal of a massclaim. I really do. If it caught scum it would be sweet and delicious. But I'm telling you (from somebody who has designed PR-heavy setups) there HAS to be something that stops this game you are trying to play. There HAS to be.-
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Andrius The Baker
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Except the scum KNOW who the PRs are. (Some, at least.)
HELLO I HAVE BEEN CLAIMING PR SINCE D2.
Anyway.
I understand, but in order to hunt this GODDAMN CULT RECRUITER we need to do this soon. Because if we wait until tomorrow and all four kills MAGICALLY GO THROUGH then our little niche of confirmed townies DIES.
I'm just not quite willing to wait until tomorrow when its been proven that there are upwards of 4 kills a night and there are 4 of us in the happy little townie club."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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Oh Reginaaaald... I DISAGREE!Andrius wrote:
I agree with your yellow choices, sir.Dekes wrote:Yellow are KageLord and MoI.
But srsly.
I'm not that against mass claim, but I'm not sure how much it will help. I assume scum have at least 1 RBer remaining and am almost 100% sure that they have believable fakeclaims.-
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Your logic is a non sequitur.
You say, "we need to find the cult before the townclub dies. Thus, massclaim." There is no reason why massclaim stops the townie club from dying OR helps find the cult. In fact, it seems like a massclaim would just accelerate the death of the townclub, seeing as the scum would now know exactly who to kill and in what order.-
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Dekes Mafia Scum
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Then I'd like to refer to this one once again:
How much of a flavor geek are the persons currently around?Dekes wrote:
And the flavor question still stands. Is there a color that most likely would contain the black recruiter, i.e. is there flavor-wise a Lantern that the black recruiter generated from?Andrius wrote:GREEN: 3 dead, one to go (ONE OF TANNY AND NOPOINT IS SCUM) which also means whoever claims Hal Jordan is dead.
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Kublai Khan Khan Man
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Well, William Hand was listed as Indigo and he would have been the most logical Black Lantern recruiter who could be logically slotted into a townie color, so... The 4/4/4/4/4/1 setup concept is a proven falsehood at this point. I think it might be close to it, but I wouldn't be surprised if one of the fours turns out to be a 3.KageLord wrote:So, I have a question for everyone while we wait for the missing posters. Given that dana said that the only things we know for sure about the setup are in the OP so the earlier find of 4-4-4-4-4-1 might not be true, do you still think it was 4-4-4-4-4-1 (without the black shenanigans) and why?
I'm down for a mass claim since we can start checked stories and figure who not only who is lying but hopefully figure out a lynch order to win this thing. If there are 4 yellow & 4 red (xvart kinda confirmed this for yellow and 4 kills indicates red is still around), then a yellow-lynch is a bad move today. A Red/Orange/Black (recruiter only) lynch is a much better move.
Hadn't considered it actually. I thought cults can't recruit scum because it screws over the scum team?Dekes wrote:Just earned Black Lantern points as well. What makes you think that the Black Lantern faction can't recruit scum?
William Hand (who already flipped as Town Indigo), Nekron, Scar (ex-Green)Dekes wrote:I once again need some flavor experts. I know, they probably have a fake claim, but is there a specific person flavor-wise that would indicate the Black Lantern recruiter?
Uh, that comment earns you some Black Lantern points yourself.Dekes wrote:And I'm not sure there are really already three Black Lanterns since only now that a Black Lantern has flipped, dana talked about an altered state of game. May or may not be indicative of when the Black Lanterns joined the game.
YAndrius wrote:Everyone: SRS BSNS: Massclaim Y/N?
I understand the arguments against. But I think the benefits outweigh the downsides. We need to lynch smartly to win.Occasionally intellectually honest
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Andrius The Baker
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I have 0 flavor knowledge, plus the wikipedia info on my character.
And the fact that yellows are led by Siniestro, who is still alive.
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KK brings up a good point about cults not being able to recruit scum.
I think it would be different for the last red though, but whatever.
I'm glad KK showed up. <3 I was worried he was lurkertown."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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AlmasterGM Mafia Scum
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AGM.AlmasterGM wrote:Your logic is a non sequitur.
You say, "we need to find the cult before the townclub dies. Thus, massclaim." There is no reason why massclaim stops the townie club from dying OR helps find the cult. In fact, it seems like a massclaim would just accelerate the death of the townclub, seeing as the scum would now know exactly who to kill and in what order.
There are 4 of us.
There are 4 kills floating around.
Now, I know you probably will be sad when I diebecause no one else ever accepts your cult invitesbut if all four of us die that means you're left with a crapload of scumbags and HOPEFULLY another Blue (if not Blue Brother) to explain what I've been meaning after I die.
I CANNOT HUNT FOR THE CULT RECRUITER WITHOUT CLAIMS. Like in Succession Mafia. I can find him, but I need info."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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Never played with a cult, so no experience there. What happens usually if a cult recruiter recruits scum?Kublai Khan wrote:Hadn't considered it actually. I thought cults can't recruit scum because it screws over the scum team?
Or maybe I'm just grasping at straws here because the thought of possibly (if the recruiton really started N1) having only four real townies left is scary.
Then what do you make of this note by dana:Kublai Khan wrote:
Uh, that comment earns you some Black Lantern points yourself.Dekes wrote:And I'm not sure there are really already three Black Lanterns since only now that a Black Lantern has flipped, dana talked about an altered state of game. May or may not be indicative of when the Black Lanterns joined the game.
Bolded parts: Red herring or vital info?danakillsu wrote:Obviously, the game has changed.Though you have not settled your differences as representatives of different emotions, you realize that there is a threat that might become greater than all of you combined. The Black Lantern Corps, representing death, is able to corrupt the living and the dead to join them in their quest to end all life in the galaxies. Your win conditions have not changed, but rest assured that thisnew enemywill do all it can to keep you from fulfilling them.-
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Andrius The Baker
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Sorry, I just don't like being the only townie in the room when I can help it. It lost me Succession Mafia.
@ Dekes: cult recruiter can't recruit scum, that's the point.
Vital herring-info. We still have the same wincon, but we have to kill the black corpsmen too."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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If there's something specific you want me to comment on, I'd be glad to. Otherwise I don't see much that has changed since I last said anything.Dekes wrote:Then I'd like to refer to this one once again:
How much of a flavor geek are the persons currently around?Dekes wrote:
And the flavor question still stands. Is there a color that most likely would contain the black recruiter, i.e. is there flavor-wise a Lantern that the black recruiter generated from?Andrius wrote:GREEN: 3 dead, one to go (ONE OF TANNY AND NOPOINT IS SCUM) which also means whoever claims Hal Jordan is dead.
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Nothing else to add, Kagelord?
And to answer your question, I know almost nothing about the Green Lantern series. Before this game I only knew Hal Jordan and Sinestro (didn't even know there were other lantern colors besides green and yellow or that Wonder Woman apparently has a lantern ring now).-
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I think traditionally either the recruit fails or recruiter dies.Dekes wrote:
Never played with a cult, so no experience there. What happens usually if a cult recruiter recruits scum?Kublai Khan wrote:Hadn't considered it actually. I thought cults can't recruit scum because it screws over the scum team?
Or maybe I'm just grasping at straws here because the thought of possibly (if the recruiton really started N1) having only four real townies left is scary.
I'm leaning red herring. I think that it just means that we are now aware of Black Lanterns, not that someone was recruited and killed the same night.Dekes wrote:
Then what do you make of this note by dana:Kublai Khan wrote:
Uh, that comment earns you some Black Lantern points yourself.Dekes wrote:And I'm not sure there are really already three Black Lanterns since only now that a Black Lantern has flipped, dana talked about an altered state of game. May or may not be indicative of when the Black Lanterns joined the game.
Bolded parts: Red herring or vital info?danakillsu wrote:Obviously, the game has changed.Though you have not settled your differences as representatives of different emotions, you realize that there is a threat that might become greater than all of you combined. The Black Lantern Corps, representing death, is able to corrupt the living and the dead to join them in their quest to end all life in the galaxies. Your win conditions have not changed, but rest assured that thisnew enemywill do all it can to keep you from fulfilling them.Occasionally intellectually honest
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