Blackest Night Mafia (GAME OVER!)

[Kublai Khan]

YOU'RE STILL NOT EXPLAINING HOW ANY OF THIS WORKS. YOUR PLAN IS MASSCLAIM --> MAGIC --> CATCH CULT. IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.

With 3 nights past, we can now catch people whose stories don't match. Once we figure out the scum, we can then analyze what flavor of scum and lynch according to what provides the best plan for success. With a potential 3 person cult existing, we need to control how votes should happen from here on out. Votes are more important than Power roles atm.

[KageLord]

Do you think you actually can find the black recruiter or do you want to think you can find him?

lolololol that's deep, broseph.

[Andrius]

I can find him. Not guaranteed, of course, but its not exactly hard to do.
Succession wasn't like this game. I found the recruiter based off of DayPlay, not nightplay. And we have PLENTY of flips and crap to find him. If I have to read the game again I will.

/this is barring mods being players, secret players, dead players acting from beyond the grace

Worse come worse then we'll have a solid basis on who he could be, and we can shoot and lynch until we've got him. And the best part? Scum have to help us.

BUT.
Before we massclaim (roles,names) I think we should color-claim.
I have reasons for this too.
But we do colors first.

I think everyone can agree that a colorclaim is reasonable, even if you don't support a massclaim.

[Kublai Khan]

@Andrius - Popcorn or is there a specific order you want?

Also, keep in mind that the Blue Lantern alliance thing you keep talking about may be compromised.

@mods: When can we start prodding those who haven't posted?

[Dekes]

lolololol that's deep, broseph.

Yep, because there's a huge difference between going with someone else's plan that could nab scum and simply following some inflated ego where the only solace is an "I told you so"-moment postgame.

@Andy
Let's wait for the votecount first. I give the odds of mods being in this game <1%, but the OoT endgame is just so fresh, you know?

[Andrius]

I know scum may claim blue, but I think that they wouldn't know what we know.
Popcorn, I guess. I don't really have a order preference, just you, kdub, and stove go last. Just because.

@ Dekes: Yeah, we can wait for a votecount.
MoI will be back on monday; he usually takes weekend V/LAs, for as long as I've known him.

[Kublai Khan]

I meant by Black, Andrius.

[Andrius]

Oh.
Forgot about them for a second there.
...
But its not so much that we're STILL confirmed town, or we will be tomorrow.
We're narrowing down who is/isn't the cult recruiter.

Like Succession, finding who CANT be the recruiter is almost as helpful as finding goons. Once I narrowed it down to two players then it got REALLY EASY to find him.

[danakillsu]

Prodding MoI, Kast, and nopoint.

[Kdub]

I'm guessing that the black lantern faction does not have a night kill, so I don't think KK is cleared of being the black recruiter, but he is likely cleared of being red/orange/yellow (assuming gunsmiths wouldn't get a positive result on recruiters).

I am still undecided on massclaim until we hear from everybody, but if Andy has reason to think he can figure this out, I'll go along with it. Since Magna appears to be the top suspect of those who haven't claimed yet, I propose that if we claim, the order go like this:

Magna -> popcorn among {Kast, Dekes, nopoint, KageLord, AGM} -> KK -> {me, Andy, Stove} in some order (if necessary)

Unless we can catch the black recruiter for sure today, I still think tans is the best lynch.

[Andrius]

The Black Lanterns will obv. recruit tanstalas if they can/haven't already. They'll want that kill, believe you me.

Let's just start with a color claim first. I don't want us to move too quickly.
I approve of Kdub's popcorn list.

[nopointinactingup]

prodded
Tans' lying his hilarious! He obviously forgot that I'm green and claimed green
Andy wtf!? I didn't hide and you betrayed my trust xD? Also, if I'm orange then who's green Genius?

[Andrius]

I did NOT target nopoint last night.
I PM'd dana and asked for some clarification regarding his Hider claim, and it was told to me that even if he didn't hide I could not confirm him via my normal means.

For nopoint^

If you're orange then someone un-claimed is green.
KK, perhaps. Kast or Stove.

But a Hider claim? As GREEN?
Bullshit.
I am officially calling bullshit.

[Andrius]

Another color, maybe.
Greens are Willpower.
Willpower doesn't equate to hiding like a coward.

Hope equates to assisting others as we can.

Love equates to bonds and trust.

Compassion means taking sympathy with others. Spy's flip makes sense.

A GREEN LANTERN WITH A HIDER CLAIM IS BOLLOCKS.

[nopointinactingup]

dood, if there was an un-claimed green, why didn't he just claim his color to out me? That's right, it's because there's no un-claimed green.
What's wrong with a Green Hider btw? Too bright to hide?

Edit: xD I already stated that my flavor stated that I can drive my bulldozer to get out of places to fight another day. Isn't that will power?? As if flavor should be scrutinized anyways?

[Andrius]

Popcorn-style color claim starts now.
Magna first. Popcorns to group #1.
After group #1 finishes KK color claims, then popcorns to one of Kdub and Stove.

I, as I've previously stated, am a member of the

Blue Lantern Corps

.
(And yes, I'm not using the "correct" color, but hey. Someone else can start that for extra points. )



predit: He hasn't claimed because there isn't a stricy 4:4:4 thing (although that might be the case).
GREEN MEANS WILLPOWER. NOT COWARDICE.
AGAIN, SOMETHING I CAN'T FULLY EXPLAIN BUT I AM RIGHT HERE.

[nopointinactingup]

I KNOW I KNOW BUT MY ROLE DOES MEAN WILLPOWER. As in the will to persist on being alive xD. What does a BusDriver or a Gunsmith have to do with willpower. Tell me Andy. TELL ME.

[Andrius]

GUNSMITH IS INVESTIGATIVE. IT ACTUALLY HELPS PEOPLE.
BUSDRIVER ATTEMPTS TO SAVE PEOPLE (like me). It is useful.
You fucking hide.
Don't worry though; we're looking at tanny before you.

If you're green you won't "hide" tonight either. I'd love to have you in the townclub, honest.

[nopointinactingup]

My role HELPS PEOPLE. It actually reduces Night Kills if you guys didn't butt in and made me claim. I'd love to be in your "town club" but it seems you don't trust fellow townies too well. Fuk Andy. TELL ME YOU DIDN'T TURN BLACK OVERNIGHT?

[KageLord]

My role HELPS PEOPLE. It actually reduces Night Kills if you guys didn't butt in and made me claim. I'd love to be in your "town club" but it seems you don't trust fellow townies too well. Fuk Andy. TELL ME YOU DIDN'T TURN BLACK OVERNIGHT?

Not a very good argument for helping people. It helps yourself. At most we would be saved from 2 kills if both red and yellow scum, for some unknown reason, thought you were townie enough to top their kill list (doubt it). Also, there would be the possibility of wasted town vig shots to balance out those 2 missing scum kills. Overall, the only one that is sure to come out ahead from that role is you (which is not in the Green Lantern spirit).

And I get that it's a flavor argument and thus based on speculation about the mod, but dana seems really into the Blackest Night series and it's doubtful that he would give a Green Lantern that kind of role.

[The Stove]

I am supportive of a mass color claim as well, waiting to see what Zito says.

Other than that, I'm still with my MoI-yellowscum, NPIAU-OJscum reads.

Yeah.

-AG

[Andrius]

My role HELPS PEOPLE. It actually reduces Night Kills if you guys didn't butt in and made me claim. I'd love to be in your "town club" but it seems you don't trust fellow townies too well. Fuk Andy. TELL ME YOU DIDN'T TURN BLACK OVERNIGHT?

Bro, where has there ever even been a chance for a kill on you?
4 people have always died nightly, save N1, and God knows what happened then. :S

Oh hey Agar. Nothing new on my end. :/

[Kast]

Not sure why I got a prod when I told mod I wouldn't be around for day start if it started over the weekend...

Anyway, started skimmign through. Will post a catch up with more complete thoughts later.

Immediate things of note from what I've skimmed:
Scums:
-I strongly believe Andy, so if his role indicates tans is scum, then I'll fully support that.
-SF flip practically confirms that Fate's investigation was NOT on KK but her actual claimed guilty on SF. That said, MoI/tans/NPIAU as scum are all very plausible.
-MoI does look like a strong candidate for Yellow scum. He's tried to derail/divert both previous yellow-scum lynches, and both flipped Yellow-PR.
Mass Claim/Colors:
-I'll participate in a mass claim if that's the majority preference, but I don't see that it helps us that much.
-People seem to be assuming the 4 per color thing is true. Mod's already publicly posted this is not true.
Black Lanterns:

Flavor note: take with a grain of salt since flips reveal some bastardized flavor

, Black lanterns can only exist while William Hand is dead. The way to solve the Blackest Night/end the series was by bringing William Hand back to life (and turning him into an

Indigo

Lantern prisoner). It is possible that William Hand's death triggered the Black Lantern awakenings. If any player has a reviving mechanic, William Hand would be the flavor solution to the Black Lantern problem.

[Andrius]

Again, unless I was Roleblocked, tans is scum.
I feel like Fate would have gone more gung-ho if he got a Guilty on SensFan D2. :/

We're definitely color-claiming.
I know he said it isn't true, but its not a bad base to start from; I get the feeling that the Blues got the shortest end of the stick, population-wise.

So all we have to do is Revive William Hand? Can it really be that simple? Will the Black Corpsmen just keel over and die?

[Andrius]

Oooooh, that means Plum comes back.
Although this new evidence somewhat de-criminates the AGM_BlackRecruiter theory.