Blackest Night Mafia (GAME OVER!)

[The Stove]

AGar and I are having this argument, see.

I don't really see the point of any kind of claimage. We basically have confirmed scum in tans, so why not lynch him and move on?

I still go back to our flipped scum being in support of color claims early on. It's obviously something they wanted so I see no reason to accommodate them. Especially when we've got several good lynches lined up already.

[Andrius]

Zito makes a good point. I'll go read the claimage pages though. See what's what.

But how about a color claim?

(And there is the off-chance I was Roleblocked...)

[AlmasterGM]

ZITO TO THE RESCUE ON THE MASSCLAIM.

I MAY HAVE LOST, BUT THE WAR AGAINST UNNECESSARY IDIOTIC MASSCLAIMS IS NOT OVER.

[Kast]

@Zito-
Agree with that point. The only mod confirmed scum so far who was "against" color claims was Guderian, and he was talking out both sides of his mouth; saying he's against it, but then making arguments in favor of it.

However, as I understand it, the argument for mass claiming is more than just color claims; it sounds like Andy is trying to reconstruct all night actions and potentially catch liars through conflicting claims/abilities/etc. It has potential to catch scum, it has potential to help scum target better. At this point, I doubt it would automatically catch anything since too many players are already dead and can't share their info. It may lock players and let us find more scum if we still have investigative roles though.

@Andy-
To be clear, I have no idea whether such a mechanic exists in

this

game. If there is a reviver (presumably one-shot), then mass claim puts a target for Black Lanterns, but may actually be helpful in terms of other scum may leave that player alone.

[Andrius]

dram and SensFan were pro-massclaim.
Oddly enough, I feel like a 1shot Reviver would be here. I can't clarify more right now, but from the flips I've seen I can definitely see it happening.

it sounds like Andy is trying to reconstruct all night actions and potentially catch liars through conflicting claims/abilities/etc.

This.

I could piece together what certain players have done, night action wise. Vi, SpyreX, Jack, Reck, Starbuck, etc. We know alot about alot of people, so it isn't hard.

Give me a couple minutes...

[MagnaofIllusion]

Prod received. The last 60 or so hours have sucked. Water in the your basement during Winter is a horrible, horrible thing to have to deal with. I haven’t had any time for Mafia, even my own modded game.

General Catchup

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So Sens was scum as expected. I’m curious that Jack, based on the Night flavour, seems to be the person responsible for killing Sens. Jack had made a mention of CPR docing Fate earlier. As a VT this makes no sense, so I’m leaning towards the possibility he got passed a “CPR Doc” invention ala Andrius’s Vig shot earlier. Eventually 'Blue Brother' or whoever Andy keeps going on about can clear that point up.

NoPoint is still scum. I also would be happy lynching Dekes (likely Yellow from foreknowledge that xvart was yellow before he even claimed and his continued off play), Tans (pushing so hard that he is confirmed as Green despite another Green claim, plus the claim and Andy’s evidence), or AGM (scum meta of bussing partners makes him a good Red scum candidate).

VOTE: NoPoint

I’m ok with a Full Mass-claim, a Color Mass-claim, or a Color / Name Mass-Claim at this juncture. The game has gotten very small very quick.

On the Black Lanterns

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If this is a full blown cult then as has already been said everyone is still suspect from the standpoint of being a potential recruit, including already ‘confirmed’ Town. Then again if it is a full-blown cult the death of the Black recruiter should either revert the recruits or kill them all off.

A cult mechanic? Really? Support from (several) flavor specialists is greatly appreciated. Is it possible that people automatically convert to the Black Lantern section based on their role or is it more likely that this is the work of a recruiting mechanism?

The Black Lanterns from the Comics are all comprised of people resurrected from the Dead or those who have returned to life from death. Seeing as Fate’s role character was dead during Blackest Night and flipped regular Green Lantern I doubt we are going to get far examining role characters on this front. AFAIK Fatality (Toog) was still alive all of Blackest Night.

Specific Responses

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Magna, did anything happen to you last night? Just say yes or no.

Nope, I have had no Mod communication indicating anything of the sort.

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I, personally, am almost positive of an MoI-yellow flip. His actions around driving the counter wagon against xvart yesterday were almost blatant. I'd shit a large brick if he were to flip town.

Well AGar I hope you own a stool softener so that passing that brick isn’t too painful.

But let me expound on why your counter-wagon argument is terribly flawed. The sequence of events.

1. Day 2 I begin pressing for NoPoint to hang as scum based on his absolutely failed claim, Spyrex’s claim and scummy Day-play. This Day Starbuck identifies Kats as scum. I chose to follow the NoPoint path as opposed voting Kats.
2. Kats is lynched and flips Yellow Mafia.
3. Day 3 begins and I continue pushing for NoPoint scum based on prior reasoning and his whole “Andrius tried to Vig me not anything else … whoops I can’t be targeted LOLOL” play Day 3. Kdub identifies xvart as scum. I maintain my vote on NoPoint despite pressure regarding not voting for now known Yellow Lantern Katsuki.
4. Xvart outs himself as Yellow scum and flips.

If you are saying this chain of events is indicative of myself being Yellow scum then I don’t know what to say other than you think I’m much stupider than I actually am.

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SOMEHOW the Serial Killer getting a "Hider" claim is just wrong. BUUUT I'm not throwing it out.

And yet it doesn’t occur to you that NoPoint got some other role to claim and invented the Hider claim in an attempt to ‘explain’ Spyrex’s then unexplained role results?

You're lucky there's still one person left alive from Succession Mafia.

Yes we are. Because turning around the game to a Town victory with multiple cults running around is ….

Nevermind.

I'm very convinced that MoI and AGM would both have submitted scum colors.

So do you think I’m Orange? Because that’s the only scum color you can realistically claim you are convinced I submitted.

So. People who've posted since D4 broke:
nopoint

I checked this. As of post 1433 NoPoint had NOT posted Day 4. If NoPoint flips not Orange scum of any sort (especially Black) I’m going to say Andrius working so hard to ‘clear’ yesterday and subtlely today. him is a link for future review.

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Sodam Yat - Odd night vig, and to answer your next question Dramonic and Toog (oops)

So you are claiming the Dramonic kill. Noted.

You pushing this lynch quite hard Andy, especially since noone has even CC'd me as Green.

Does anyone have Tans = Scum meta that shows he doesn’t pay attention to the thread? Because somehow NoPoint’s claim has escaped him.

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What makes you think that the Black Lantern faction can't recruit scum?

Because normal cults can’t. Should this be +1000 Black Lantern points for you since it seems to indicate you didn’t even consider how a cult normally works (ala inside information)?

Plus, I don't understand why a Hal Jordan claim needs death. If anything, I'd believe Hal Jordan would b e the only sure bet of being in the game on the town side. And with three flipped green Lanterns, I think, all claimed Green Lanterns but Hal Jordan are scum now.

1. So the Mods would never reserve a popular character as a fake-claim? Derp.
2. The two green claims we have are John Stewart (Hider) and Sodom Yat (Odd Night Vig). Are they both scum then?

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Magna posts all walls, which makes reading him difficult (not because he is difficult to read in and of himself, but because I don't feel like scraping through the walls).

I lulzed since you’ve yet to read me successfully in any of the completed games we have in common.

Hmmmmm, you know, the more I think about it, the more I agree Magna is a good place to start for today's witch hunt. 1) he probably picked scum / THIRD PARTY ESPECIALLY 2) his play has been off today and 3) he hasn't been nightkilled yet and he NORMALLY is. Yes I went there Magna. I'll go there every time.

I’ll respond in a proper manner.

I think AGM is a good place to start for today’s witch hunt. 1) he probably picked scum / THIRD PARTY ESPECIALLY 2) his play has been off every day phase, and 3) he has a self-proclaimed meta of heavily bussing his partners. Sensfan flipping scum after so long with AGM ‘pushing’ him means AGM is likely the last Red Scum.

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Andy wtf!? I didn't hide and you betrayed my trust xD? Also, if I'm orange then who's green Genius?

Perhaps someone who hasn’t claimed?

Edit: xD I already stated that my flavor stated that I can drive my bulldozer to get out of places to fight another day. Isn't that will power?? As if flavor should be scrutinized anyways?

That’s horrible flavor for a Hider. What is stealthy exactly about a Bulldozer? I could see Commuter with that flavor but Hider?

I also think your claim of Hider doesn’t make sense from a set-up point of view for unshared reasons.

[Andrius]

Players

Yet Tarrying Amongst the Living

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MagnaofIllusion

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KageLord

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tanstalas, Claimed

Green OddNight Vig

N1: Shot Dramonic
N3: Shot Toogeloo
BONUS: SCUMBAG Unless Andy was Roleblocked N3
–

Dekes

–

Kublai Khan

–

Kast

–

nopointinactingup, Claimed

Green Hider (WTF)

N1: Hid behind Vi
N2: Hid behind ??
N3: Didn't Hide
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Kdub

TINFOIL, CLASSIFIED INFO
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The Stove

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Andrius,

Blue Lantern

N1: Targeted Plum (Result: Classified until Fullclaim)
N2: Targeted nopointinactingup (Result: nopoint Hid. Controversy over whether this means he avoided the action. If not, HE IS SCUMBAG.)
N3: Targeted tanstalas (Result: SCUM, unless I was Roleblocked)
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AlmasterGM

Released from the Bonds of Life

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Guderian -

Atrocitus

,

Investigation-Immune Janitor

in the

Red Lantern Corps

- Lynched on Day 1.

N1: LOLOL NO NIGHT ACTIONS CUZ HE DEADER THAN ELVIS
–

dramonic -

Bleez

,

Operative

in the

Red Lantern Corps

- Killed on Night 1.

N1: Probably carried out the kill on whoever they killed.
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xRECKONERx -

Star Sapphire

,

Mason Recruiter

in the

Violet Lantern Corps

- Killed on Night 1.

Died attempting to recruit Katsuki. (Lame choice IMO)
–

Vi -

Kilowog

,

Busdriver

in the

Green Lantern Corps

- Killed on Night 1.

N1: Busdrove me [?] and himself [?], implying someone tried to kill me N1.
–

Katsuki -

Bedovian

,

Watcher

in the

Sinestro Corps

- Lynched on Day 2.

N1: Claimed Watch on me. Might have actually been on Vi, but with the Busdriving issue then might have watched me instead
–

Plum -

William Hand

,

Operative

in the

Indigo Tribe

- Killed on Night 2.

N1: n/a
N2: KILLED BY SCUMBAGS
–

Starbuck -

Wonder Woman

,

Cop Mason

in the

Violet Lantern Corps

- Killed on Night 2.

N1: Investigate: The Stove
N2: KILLED BY SCUMBAGS
–

Stephoscope -

Arisia

,

Operative

in the

Green Lantern Corps

- Killed on Night 2.

N1: n/a
N2: Killed by Andy_Vig
–

Fate -

Tomar-Re

,

Gunsmith

in the

Green Lantern Corps

- Killed on Night 2.

N1: Investigated KK [?]
N2: KILLED BY SCUMBAGS
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xvart -

Arkillo

,

Ninja

in the

Sinestro Corps

- Lynched on Day 3.

N1: Carried out the kill for sure
N2: Carried out the kill for sure
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Toogeloo - Fatality, VT in the Black Lantern Corps

- Killed on Night 3
N1: n/a
N2: n/a
N3: KILLED BY TANS [?] AND FLIPPED BLACK LOLPANDA
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SpyreX -

Munk, Role Copier

in the

Indigo Tribe

- Killed on Night 3
N1: TINFOIL, PLEASE HOLD
N2: TINFOIL, PLEASE HOLD
N3: KILLED BY SCUMBAGS
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Jack -

Queen Aga po, VT

in the

Violet Lantern Corps

- Killed on Night 3
N1: n/a
N2: n/a
N3: Killed SensFan, and Killed by SensFan
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SensFan -

Dex-Starr, Bomb

in the

Red Lantern Corps

- Killed on Night 3
N1: ?
N2: ? (likely carried out the kill)
N3: (likely carried out kill), blew up Jack and KILLED BY JACK

Helloooooo Moi.

so I’m leaning towards the possibility he got passed a “CPR Doc” invention ala Andrius’s Vig shot earlier. Eventually 'Blue Brother' or whoever Andy keeps going on about can clear that point up.

Blue Brother should be able to clear this up; also implies that Fate was NOT the one handing out kills as I had speculated earlier.

Magna, did anything happen to you last night? Just say yes or no.

Nope, I have had no Mod communication indicating anything of the sort.

I think I know what's coming...

And yet it doesn’t occur to you that NoPoint got some other role to claim and invented the Hider claim in an attempt to ‘explain’ Spyrex’s then unexplained role results?

It did. But he's now forced into a Hider claim. So we're good for now.

So do you think I’m Orange? Because that’s the only scum color you can realistically claim you are convinced I submitted.

Maybe. I like nopoint best as orange.
But it DOES fit you the best. (Like AGM fits black best)

Does anyone have Tans = Scum meta that shows he doesn’t pay attention to the thread? Because somehow NoPoint’s claim has escaped him.

Super Smash Bros. Mafia is him as scum in a 4:4:1:TOWN game.

1. So the Mods would never reserve a popular character as a fake-claim? Derp.

OH RIGHT.
RC.
HARRY POTTER.
ATTN: HAL JORDAN IS SCUM.

I also think your claim of Hider doesn’t make sense from a set-up point of view for unshared reasons.

Same here.

I like your views on AGM though.

[tanstalas]

I'm not even sure why we are having this discussion of lynching me.

1)I can't be lynched, believe it or not I do not care
2)I will probably be NK'd tonight anyhow by either town with a magical shot (unless someone admits to RB'ing Andy) or by scum so, either way I'm gone. If they let me live to N5 I'd laugh
3)If you think NPIAU is SK (and I could believe it with his claim - not that he is a hider but rather bullet-proof) I do not know why you are not voting for him Andy, take SK out and we have 1 less kill to worry about.
4)I wouldn't be surprised if you were RB'd - a game this large I would be surprised if there wasn't a RB'er. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a scum RB'er and I doubt that they would step forward to clear me. Now unless that person is town and wants to clear me I'd be very happy

[Andrius]

2) Tanny, I'm not a Vig. Don't you worry about me killing you.
3) Because we're organizing. I'm not going to let some blockhead come in and hammer before we're ready. (Blockhead was you hammering yesterday. Something I've learned from being scum; if you can quickhammer and get away with it do so.)
4) Except no one else has claimed RB. And I'm not the best choice, if scum is smart.

[Dekes]

I also would be happy lynching Dekes (1. likely Yellow from foreknowledge that xvart was yellow before he even claimed 2.and his continued off play)

Oh, the mighty MoI. Reverting to OMGUS. Guess, that's why you haven't killed me yet, because you thought you could actually frame me because I caught you.
Then you better shouldn't have based your case on a blatant lie(1.) and some awfully vague statement(2.) which you seem to have stolen right out of AGM's read on you.

Because normal cults can’t. Should this be +1000 Black Lantern points for you since it seems to indicate you didn’t even consider how a cult normally works (ala inside information)?

So, ignorance of a rather rare mechanic I've never encountered makes me scum. Even better, I'm now black, although I was 100% yellow earlier in this post. You're making this too easy.
The limited flavor knowledge I have and dana's added intro post on D3 made me believe that Black Lanterns are working against every other Lantern section so I didn't see any reason why they wouldn't be able to recruit scum.

1. So the Mods would never reserve a popular character as a fake-claim? Derp.
2. The two green claims we have are John Stewart (Hider) and Sodom Yat (Odd Night Vig). Are they both scum then?

1. So far we haven't seen anything that would indicate otherwise.
2. You think both are scum. What was the purpose of that question then?
But for you and the rest: Since we logically assume evenly distributed fakeclaims amongst the scum teams I see no problem with two fake green claims.

@tans
What kind of pro-town role is Unlynchability that goes directly into the night, thus robbing us from a potential scum lynch, instead of continuing the day?


So, are we massclaiming or are we just lynching scum instead (something I proposed about two pages ago )? Because the designated opening claimer is around now.

[Andrius]

No, we're color claiming.
I thought we decided on that.

Addenum: Color claiming will be supplemented by a claim of what colors you submitted. Thanks.

Anyone not in (KK, Andy, Kdub, Stove) can start the color claiming, preferably MoI, as per Kdub's wishes.

[Kast]

@Andy-
-Assuming Katsuki was telling the truth about her watching; it seems unlikely Vi targeted Vi. Action resolution that reveals the bus driver after being effected by the bus driver is paradoxical. Plus, if Katsuki's actual watch was on Vi, then Katsuki should have seen Vi's killer and would have an easy "out" by revealing that person (except if Vi was the Yellow-scum kill...in which case Kats would have an option to bus for survival or just hide it).
-Fate said she seriously investigated SF and said she was just messing around about investigating KK. Given that her claimed guilty has now been confirmed it seems far more likely that the gunsmith result was on SF (what she actually said). That plus it seems unlikely Fate would investigate one of her town reads rather than one of her scum reads.

@Dekes & Others mentioning number of Green Claims-
Did you guys miss the memo that there is no reason whatsoever to think roles are evenly distributed among colors? I'd guess there's at least one scum trying to push the "4 of each color" thing, probably due to having a good safe claim. Tans & NPIAU are both prob scum. But that's based on play and conflicting game mechanic claims; nothing to do with the green claim...

[Andrius]

Yeah, I was actually thinking that xvart killed Vi, so Kat wouldn't have seen them anyway, let alone if he WERE not part of Yellow with xvart.
Oh ok. :/

Roles are not distributed evenly among colors might be true, but roles are definitely dealt for a reason. If it isn't already apparent that certain roles are more likely to appear in certain corps then my efforts have been for naught.

[The Stove]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF the walls.

Did you guys miss the memo that there is no reason whatsoever to think roles are evenly distributed among colors?

Kast be a buddy and link to this plz?

Andy I'm still missing the point of a color claim I think, especially given ^^^ if true. And if ^^^ is not true then we already have 2 more green claims with 3 green dead and isn't an inbalanced set what your'e looking for?

But then I wasn't really part of the Happy Fun Fraternity yesterday so


-PZ

[Andrius]

No, that's not what I'm looking for.
If that's the case it would be GREAT.
But I'm looking for a couple things.
Namely forcing scum to stay tied to this one color.

I can TELL that roles aren't distributed 4:4:4:4... because its a miracle that there aren't any dead Blues yet, so there have to be few of us. :/
you forget though, that both nopoint and tans are scum. So they're not really "greens".

[The Stove]

you forget though, that both nopoint and tans are scum. So they're not really "greens"

Oh, I'm not forgetting that. That's the reason why I don't see the point of any kind of claiming.

What I'm trying to do is ferret out your motivations here.

Namely forcing scum to stay tied to this one color.

Which does what?

[The Stove]

(-PZ durp)

[Andrius]

Prevents them from fakeclaiming; and it will be used later to cross-check their roles.
See, I'm under the impression (backed up by reasons I can't out) that TYPES of roles appear in certain colors.

Ok.
Everyone should probably claim who they'd rather see lynched today.
Namely one of tanstalas and nopoint.
I'm leaning nopoint.

[ReaperCharlie]

Vote Count

MagnaofIllusion [1] - AlmasterGM

nopointinactingup [1] - MagnaofIllusion

Not voting [9]

- Andrius, Dekes, KageLord, Kast, Kdub, Kublai Khan, nopointinactingup, The Stove, tanstalas

With 11 alive, it is 6 to lynch. Deadline is February 10, 2011.

[ReaperCharlie]

Apologies to all for my absence. One of the rooms in my house flooded and I had no access to my computer for a time.

Luckily, the Xbox was in the other room and the wireless internet still worked!!! ;P

[Andrius]

Ok, I'm beginning to come around to the idea of lynching nopoint today and just going straight to night; no claiming.
I find it hard to believe that there is both a town Hider (Untargettable?) and a town Unlynchable (let alone a Unlynchable Vig). And tanstalas is most likely non-SK scum. nopoint is leaning SK, so if we could get rid of one NK permanently that'd be GREAT.

But I still feel like even a Color claim would be helpful.
Hell, just claiming what colors we SUBMITTED would help me out immensely.
At the VERY LEAST, can we do that? ^

[Kdub]

Sorry, I might not get a chance to read the last page in detail until later tonight. Just one thing for Andy regarding Magna, it's not what you think. I was bluffing. You were on the right track earlier. That's all I'm going to say for now.

[Andrius]

Kdub, I'll reread and see what you mean by tracking.
I'll be out for a few hours. I feel like I should reread the thread soon; we have a shitload of scum outed and we can definitely draw up connections by now.

OH WAIT.
FUCK.
WE ARE CLAIMING FOR A REASON.
I forgot all about the Black Corps. And their goddamn recruiter.
That's why we're claiming; so we can narrow down who the hell he is.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Preview Edit - God damn ninjas everywhere!

No, we're color claiming.
I thought we decided on that.

Addenum: Color claiming will be supplemented by a claim of what colors you submitted. Thanks.

So just Color and originally suggested colors but no name?

Just want to be clear before I start it off.

Ok.
Everyone should probably claim who they'd rather see lynched today.
Namely one of tanstalas and nopoint.
I'm leaning nopoint.

Well I’ve already voted for NoPoint so you have my suggestion.

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Oh, the mighty MoI. Reverting to OMGUS. Guess, that's why you haven't killed me yet, because you thought you could actually frame me because I caught you.

Look, it’s OMGUS use. Is that scummy Dekes? Plesae tell me why I should not be able to suspect you based on your potential slip showing you knew xvart was Yellow before he claimed / flipped.

Then you better shouldn't have based your case on a blatant lie(1.) and some awfully vague statement(2.) which you seem to have stolen right out of AGM's read on you.

It's not a blatant lie, at least from my POV. I know I’m not Yellow so your push to incriminate me as such even before xvart was revealed he was also Yellow could well be a case of your inside information accidently showing.

I note the total dismissive language you attempt to use here. Given I’ve just listed you as a suspect but continue to push scum NoPoint tells me your reaction here is suspect.

So, ignorance of a rather rare mechanic I've never encountered makes me scum. Even better, I'm now black, although I was 100% yellow earlier in this post. You're making this too easy.
The limited flavor knowledge I have and dana's added intro post on D3 made me believe that Black Lanterns are working against every other Lantern section so I didn't see any reason why they wouldn't be able to recruit scum.

1. Cults are not a ‘rare’ mechanic.
2. Again with the overly touchy reaction. I didn’t call you Black Lantern. I was humorously pointing out how you’ve been throwing “Black Lantern Points” at any number of people for reasons that don’t make sense given standard cult mechancis. It’s not a Town thought process to attack someone for something related to a potential cult when you now are saying you aren’t familiar with the mechanics.
3. Given how Fate’s character has been DEAD since Crisis on Infinite Earths (sorry dana and Reaper … I’m guessing you meant Tomar Tu) relying on flavor as the sole basis for your suspicions is just bad.

2. You think both are scum. What was the purpose of that question then?

Clearly trying to get you to be clear on whether you thought both were scum given you kept going on and on about Hal Jordan.

[Kast]

@Zito-

@Plum-
Check with mods, the TWO VT and TWO PR for each color is NOT true. That was only an original concept but was abandoned between concept and the actual game.

@Mods-

Please confirm in thread that the rule about 2 PRs and 2 VTs per faction is not true.

I just realized/remembered that somewhere earlier in this process, I may have stated that there was exactly 1 PR per faction or exactly 4 people per faction besides the SK. This is not a real guarantee for this game. Only what I have stated in the OP is given to you as factual about this setup.

Game-Specific Rules

1. You know that Violet, Green, Blue, and Indigo are all part of the good faction. You know that Red, Orange, and Yellow are all different evil factions. You also know that there is only one Orange Lantern.
   
2. You know that there is at least one VT in this game.

The 4 per faction was something Guderian and KK suggested/pushed initially. If Tans/MoI are remaining

Yellow

-Scum, and NPIAU is

Orange

-SK, I think there's an at least reasonable chance that KK is last

Red

-scum.

@Color-claim-
Ok, one point that I've been unsure about sharing, my role suggests we may have a color cop of some sort (also possible it's a red herring or I'm over analysing my role).

I'm just going to partial claim this in case it helps; if we end up doing the mass full-claim I'll reveal more at that time:
-I started the game as one color with the one time ability to change to another color (permanently). From this, I'm guessing color matters as a game mechanic (initial guess is some kind of color cop). If we do have a color cop, they would find scum even without a mass color-claim.

From flavor, I could see other possible color changes...but some of those possibilities involve scum colors. If we're doing the mass color-claim, I can claim my starting color and the color I can switch to. I'd prefer holding off on my current color until a mass full claim, though that's a weak preference (it probably won't matter, but not immediate claiming may have benefits).

@Andy-
If NPIAU is SK and Tans is one of 2 remaining

Yellow

-scum, then SK is probably better to get rid of since it removes a kill. A 2 member scum voting block isn't an issue at this moment (it becomes more of an issue if we don't stop the night kills).