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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:10 pm

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KingTwelveSixteen wrote:therefor meaning that if ANY townie votes for another townie it could end the game if the scum are co-ordinated/lucky enough to double vote that person. So please don't go voting all wily-nily.
TANS YOU IMBECILE! We have 15 days left! No matter how much you think I am scum (which isn't very much because you rolled DICE to decide) we have tons of time to learn the real mafia member! You will surely spell doom for us if you go voting willy nilly like that!

See this is what I was talking about with you voting with little reason! This is so reckless it is insane.

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(and if you call this OMGUS, so help me God :mad: )
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:12 pm

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tanstalas wrote:Nope - Gonna leave it. if he is scum he won't get voted
And you are really gonna take those chances? Besides, say YOU are scum and vote me. If your scum buddy votes me then that is two and not a complete lynch. By your logic that would mean I am scum which would get me voted ANYWAYS. That logic is flawed and you know it.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:53 pm

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MirrorIrorriM wrote:
MEGA FOS : Tanstalas
(and if you call this OMGUS, so help me God :mad: )
Do you think Tans is town?
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:07 pm

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singersigner wrote:
MirrorIrorriM wrote:
MEGA FOS : Tanstalas
(and if you call this OMGUS, so help me God :mad: )
Do you think Tans is town?
Not at this moment I don't. :mad:
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:33 pm

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tanstalas wrote:I'm pretty sure King is town. I know I am town. I am almost sure than Concession and Mirror are probably scum

My gut is telling me if one of them is scum the other is.

*rolls the dice*

Vote: Mirror
Concission used to be pine.
Mirror and DP spend practically the whole first day trying to lynch pine.
Mirror/Concission almost certainly not scumbuddies.
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singersigner wrote: Tans, I'm gunna pretend you didn't just do that. You can take that back now. There's still time.
Nope - Gonna leave it. if he is scum he won't get voted, you have already had the chance to vote and you didn't which makes me think you are town as well, like I said I am pretty sure King is town, so I think I finally got it right. Mirror and Concission scum. yup
No.

there could be a singer/Mirror scumbuddy pair! Did you even think of that possibility? On top of that if the scum think you are trying to pull a fast one with getting them to vote like that and give themselves away (WHICH IS INCREDIBLY RISKY) then they won't vote until the entire town is at each others throughts!
FOS, Almost a vote: tanstalis.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:12 am

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Hmm, I need to not come on this site when I am drunk >.>

Unvote


The fact that you wern't steamrolled by votes though means that you are probably scum, or I am, or the 2 scum members wern't on at the same time since I put that vote up
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:03 am

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tanstalas wrote:Hmm, I need to not come on this site when I am drunk >.>

Unvote


The fact that you wern't steamrolled by votes though means that you are probably scum, or I am, or the 2 scum members wern't on at the same time since I put that vote up
You just listed all the options. :igmeou:
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:31 pm

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@Singer:
1> No. The way he phrase it looks fake.
MirrorIrorriM wrote: I was so certain he was going to be night killed but I guess mafia predicted that?
It's as if he knows the mafia knows there is the doctor despite the 50-50 chance. Thus, he is mafia.
2> What is strange about my response? You failed to point out anything scummy about my response yet places a Big FOS on me. I'm smelling a bit of chainsaw defense right there.
tanstalas wrote: Nope - Gonna leave it. if he is scum he won't get voted,
you have already had the chance to vote and you didn't which makes me think you are town as well
, like I said I am pretty sure King is town, so I think I finally got it right. Mirror and Concission scum. yup
Would that be the case if he was scum with Mirror? You are assuming Mirror is town while stating that he is scum.
singersigner wrote: Though Consission's absence is telling...
Taking potshots again. If you think I'm scum, then state why I'm scummy.

At this point, I may have to re-evaluate my previous reads as Mirror-scum has been exponentially more likely since I replaced in.
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:29 pm

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Prod for Debonair mod? It's been 3 days... Plz and thank you! <3
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Spoiler: My Record for Mafiascum.net
#1. 5-2 Scum
#2. 3-6 Town
#3. 0-1 3rd Party
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:29 pm

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*slowly backs away from thread, realizing he's posted in the wrong thread.*

Carry on. Ignore me. :)
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:20 pm

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neil1113 wrote:*slowly backs away from thread, realizing he's posted in the wrong thread.*

Carry on. Ignore me. :)
NP, your 2 posts have been the most action this game has seen in awhile :D
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:38 am

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This is just a reminder that I am still here. Nobody's in need of prods atm, but I'd like to remind you guys that you have 2 weeks from today.


With 5 alive, it'll be 3 to lynch. Deadline is set for February 6, 2010.


The game is now in LyLo
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:15 am

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Concission wrote:@Singer:
1> No. The way he phrase it looks fake.
MirrorIrorriM wrote: I was so certain he was going to be night killed but I guess mafia predicted that?
It's as if he knows the mafia knows there is the doctor despite the 50-50 chance. Thus, he is mafia.
...
You do realise I said like that exact same thing day 2 when I didn't get killed right? I'm pretty sure the majority of town still alive was thinking that was the reason.
tanstalas wrote:Hmm, I need to not come on this site when I am drunk >.>

Unvote


The fact that you wern't steamrolled by votes though means that you are probably scum, or I am, or the 2 scum members wern't on at the same time since I put that vote up
What? You were on the site whilst drunk? Thats your excuse for that post? The lack of an apology of any sort for it as well makes me think that it is a lie you thought up to deflect suspicion. Also pointless explanation of all possibilities bluh bluh.

You were fine with flipping a coin for who to vote for even though people told you not to do it, add that to your poor reasoning with Mirror/Concission scumbuddies makes me think that you are very scummy right now.

(To be specific, that case makes little sense since Mirror was one of the two attacking Pine near constantly day 1, and I am thinking that if you are scum you would not put very much thought into which of the townies would be scumbuddies together, because you already know none of them are.)

You also just up and left after your drunkeness post, not posting any new content or anything, just "Oh your post is more exciting then the big fat nothing that is happening right now" which isn't very helpful to town.
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:15 pm

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Concission wrote:@Singer:
1> No. The way he phrase it looks fake.
MirrorIrorriM wrote: I was so certain he was going to be night killed but I guess mafia predicted that?
It's as if he knows the mafia knows there is the doctor despite the 50-50 chance. Thus, he is mafia.
You have to remember that I have been doctor this whole game, which so happens to be my first game, so I am thinking from an odd perspective. I have never been mafia or finished a game before; so I don't know the mafia's patterns of NKing. When I nightvote I have to protect those who I think will get NKed while thinking about whether mafia is accommodating or not. It is common sense to assume your enemy always has the PRs so you can prepare for the worst. Take the mafia godfather for example, if there is a 50/50 chance he is in game the cop would know to take his night reads with a grain of salt instead of taking it for absolute fact. If the person is acting like obvious scum but their night examination turned up innocent, they would probably still push his lynch instead of arguing against it.
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:25 pm

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KingTwelveSixteen wrote: What? You were on the site whilst drunk? Thats your excuse for that post? The lack of an apology of any sort for it as well makes me think that it is a lie you thought up to deflect suspicion. Also pointless explanation of all possibilities bluh bluh.
I can assure you it was not a lie. I was feeling pretty good here by the time I voted I was quite out of it, I assure you :D

Why apologize for being drunk, I only apologize if I swear at someone whilst drunk or cause a scene - which can be seen in SSBB :shifty:
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:20 am

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...Why did you not respond to any of the other accusations? Concission has also not responded to my talking of me surviving.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:27 am

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KingTwelveSixteen wrote:...Why did you not respond to any of the other accusations? Concission has also not responded to my talking of me surviving.
Talking to Tanstalas or Concission?
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:38 am

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Must be Concission, I answered the questions he posed to me. Everything else in his spiel to me was a comment and not a question.
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:38 pm

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I don't really know what to do right now. I'm kind of torn between reads. I'm gunna do what I said I was gunna do before I got sick and look back at Uite's suspicions of Pine. :neutral:
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:47 pm

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Seriously? Pick up the activity or I'm going to start replacing people. Mass prod going around and I'm shortening posting deadlines to 48 hours.
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:07 pm

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I'm like...halfway through that ISO. I get distracted sometimes, but it'd really be nice if I wasn't the only one doing anything... :?
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:12 pm

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I'ma gonna pull up this old quote of Llama's and totally butcher it to help me figure out who's scum, okay?
LlamaFluff wrote:...
Spoiler:
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How to read it: I will give some examples with that I see as key counts, with known alignments in green (hence why Brent/DP are shades of green)

@Post 141 (first dual 3+ wagon)

Pinewolf/Concission (3) - tans,
DP
, Mirror
Uite
(3) -
KTS,
Brent
,
Llama

Singer (1) - Pine/Concission
Not Voting (2) -
KTS, Uite


@Post 262 (Pine/Concission hits L-1)

Pine/Concission (4) - tans,
DP
, Mirror,
Brent

DP
(1) -
KTS

Llama
(1) -
Uite

Mirror (1) -
Llama

Not Voting (2) - singer, Pine/Concission

@Post 350 (
uite/DP
dual wagons)

DP
(3) -
KTS
, tans, Mirror
Uite
(3) -
Llama
,
Brent
, singer
Llama
(1) -
Uite

tans (1) -
DP


@Post 406 (
DP
wagon pulls ahead)

DP
(4) -
KTS
, Mirror, tans,
Brent

Uite
(3) -
Llama
, singer,
DP

Not Voting (2) -
Uite
, Pine/Concission

@535 (lynch)

DP
(5) -
KTS
, tans, Mirror,
Uite
,
Brent

Uite
(3) -
Llama
,
DP
, singer
Not Voting (1) - Pine/Concission

One of the biggest things I dislike is the transfer of the Pine/Concission wagon onto
DP
. Pine/Concission was proving to be a very difficult lynch and the entire wagon just went *poof* and showed up on a townie. I think this is going to be one of the bigger scum backed shifts in this game. The key people there were Mirror and Tans.

This same situation is again making me reguess my reguess on Pine/Concission again (I know convenient but votes say he is somewhat town)

Another spot I like looking is the
DP
wagon, where there is only one town player flipped on it. I would be stunned to find no scum on that wagon, again that is
KTS
, tans, mirror. I am eliminating
Uite
from this given that he was there for self-preservation and nothing else. The fact that he was on me for a while actually means he is probably town given the nature of wagons in this game, and how the like to shift around at a moments notice. Mirror choppyness im torn on, I really dont see him playing like he did unless he is scum with
Uite
or tans.
SO!

I think...

Town
Uite

Pine/Concission

Town with reservations
KTS


Sorta Town
Mirror

Who Knows
singer

Whats Left
tans

Vote tanstalas


Lucky for me, his record on voting is exactly what I would expect from scum, especially in the case that Pine/Concission is town. Check his long period on Pine/Concission, followed by a snap move onto
DP
who had just voted him, with no real intention to ever leave that wagon. I really dont call the singer thing a push off the wagon since that looked like it was going nowhere as it was occuring.

Reasoning? Tomorrow. Im tired now.
Wow, that was more useful than I thought it would be.

FOS:Mirror/tans duel team.
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:56 pm

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Sorry for inactivity! Just started college and am a little overburdened with all the additional work.

Anywho,

Again with Me and Tans thing? Us following exact vote patterns was merely coincidence. I know that is REALLY hard to believe in light of recent events, what with my sudden rash turn on tanstalas looking like a cover up to avoid suspicion. In my defense, me, Brent, and DP followed similar voting patterns also, but we all know they were not scum. Also Llama said I could be scum with Uite, which obviously is impossible since he was not scum. My point is that, although me and Tans have followed similar patterns (more so then either of us with anyone else), many other strong possibilities arouse but turned out to be coincidence and this one is merely coincidence also.

To further my case against tanstalas:

His early push against DP seems extremely strong. Although everyone was pretty much against him (we lynched him :P ) he was the first to really make a big deal about it.

His attitude towards pine/concission is always kind and forgiving. This is most prevalent in his response to minor things like skimming the thread. If pine/concission do it, it is ok/forgivable and was just a newb townie; if anyone ELSE does it he calls it scummy and gets all upset about it. To be fair he does say that it could be newb townie, he just says it from an attitude that he doesn't mean it.

He gives an inconsistent reaction to Singer wanting to lynch early and Brent wanting to lynch early. He goes so far as to vote Singer for over eager voting but is in total agreement when Brent goes crazy and resolves to lynching Uite or DP out of the game "taking too long".

That is all the new information I have to further my case. Everything else has been said already.

Gog I hope I am right in pushing you...So far I have foolishly pushed the lynches of all our experienced players :oops


@ Singer: I'm really interested to see your material on Uite's push against pine :o
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:02 am

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It's not just the fact that you guys share the same voting paterns, but rather you seem to be following tans ( always vote behind tans ) in the wagons. This coincides with Tans-SE + Mirror-Newbie scum team.
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:07 am

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Everyone on town please make a note that Concission just totally ignored my rebuttle of his wierd "mafia guessing about docter" arguement.
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