Mini 1102 - Rivertown Mafia (Game Over!)

[Zdenek]

What makes you think I was bussing?

[Fugitive]

Besides the fact that I think you're scum who voted him, the very definition of a bus...

I'm calling a bus because you were the first to call him as scum despite giving no evidence except for a bunch of +S's (That's a pretty telling sign of a bus from what I've seen). Then voting him all of Day 1, pushing a No lynch day 2 only to then randomly jump on the wagon before his lynch. Day 2 almost seemed like you tried to distract from the wagon, and then you abandoned that distraction when it failed.

[Zdenek]

Besides the fact that I think you're scum who voted him, the very definition of a bus...

I'm calling a bus because you were the first to call him as scum despite giving no evidence except for a bunch of +S's (That's a pretty telling sign of a bus from what I've seen). Then voting him all of Day 1, pushing a No lynch day 2 only to then randomly jump on the wagon before his lynch. Day 2 almost seemed like you tried to distract from the wagon, and then you abandoned that distraction when it failed.

I wrote much more than that on ThAdmiral.
I didn't push a no lynch, the moment there was clearly objection to it, I voted ThAdmiral.
If you're town, you're being stupid.

[Fugitive]

I wrote much more than that on ThAdmiral.

you did AFTER your +S +T thing. Initially you gave no reasoning.

I didn't push a no lynch, the moment there was clearly objection to it, I voted ThAdmiral.

You did push it, meaning you didn't propose it, you just agreed with it and went along with it.

[el simo]

If you weren't pushing it why did you want us to consider it?

[Zdenek]

If you weren't pushing it why did you want us to consider it?

Because I'd never heard the suggestion in these circumstances before and I wanted to hear what other people thought. I didn't think it was worth writing off immediately since theoretically there was a scenario that could have led us to lose yesterday (us lynching town, the sk/vig killing a town's person and the scum killing the sk/vig).

[ortiz1193]

LOL at Pie being town too. I fucking suck at this game.

VT claim is worthless, two PRs flipping already is probably all of them. The case makes sense. Voting at the end of the wagon like that without waiting for a claim means Z is likely bussing. Furcolow's play is consistent with his supposed meta. Z's vote isn't. I would expect furcolow to be annoyingly reckless. Z comes off as a better player than that. Most likely not LyLo unless its a Bastard Mod or something else that would make me hate diddin. Might as well.

If Z isn't scum, lynch me tomorrow. I live life on the edge.

vote: Z

[diddin]

Final Day 3 Votecount

ortiz1193 (0)
el simo (0)
Furcolow (0)

Zdenek (4) Furcolow, Fugitive, el simo, ortiz1193

Baby Spice (0)
Olinea (0)
Fugitive (0)
Not Voting (0) Baby Spice, Zdenek, Olinea

The day went so quickly, the Mod their God couldn't even write good flavor.

Zdenek,

Vanilla Townie

, was lynched Day 3!

It is now Night 3. All quicktopics are now open for discussion. Deadline is currently set at Monday, January 24, at 8:11 PM Central Time!

[diddin]

diddin the mod God of Rivertown was late. In a panic, he did a quick headcount before waving his magic wand to start the day. It looked like el simo was dead. He was full of bullet holes and was bleeding ...vanilla... . diddin wondered what the hell he was thinking when he created this world.

el simo,

Vanilla Townie

, was shot dead Night 3!

It is now Day 4. With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch and 3 to no lynch! Deadline is currently set at Monday, February 7, at 10:03 PM Central Time!

I was at a basketball game tonight. Again apologies for the delay.

[el simo]

Goooo toooown D:

[Olinea]

Massclaim today. I'd be willing to bet a good sum of money there are 2 scum left.

Is there an order we could go through, or should we do it popcorn style?

[Olinea]

Actually, you know what? I’ll kick it off.

Claim: Town Gunsmith

To be honest, I have no idea how I’m still alive. My post on D3 detailing my reads was my biggest slip ever and I spent 3 days convinced I would die. I posted about a

Godfather

which, after looking at a few Mini Normal setups, seems like a guess that none other than a PR would make.

Night 1 I investigated

Cyberbob

due to his astoundingly unreadable (but mostly anti-town, not so much

scummy

) play. I was under the impression that no Mafia member would kill Cyberbob due to the fact that a lynch could be made on him so easily. Well, you all saw his flip – diddin was nice enough to tell me that Cyberbob had no gun, but fat lot of good that’s doing us now.

During the day I flip-flopped on the possibility of SK vs. Vigilante. I figured since Serial Killers generally work with knives then it’d be a way for an SK to remain investigation-immune (Unlike a certain SK I knew =_=). Of course, the lack of stabbing flavor should have tipped me off in the first place, plus the fact that a lack of a Vigilante would dampen the thing that differs a Gunsmith from a regular Cop.

Night 2 I investigated

Fugitive

as he, too, was unreadable. He’s an aggressive sort of player as Town, I don’t know much about scum Fugitive but knowing him as a notoriously good player as both scum and Town I figured it’d settle any sort of doubts I had about him. Fugitive returned with no gun, and I crumbed it in my list.

Fugitive

N

o idea what to think of this.

O

riginally I thought one of Fugi/Pie but I think that was mostly me trying to

appear

experienced.

G

ot a Town read on him early on (I know most everybody does) and I haven't seen anything that makes me want to change that.

U

sually I find out that my scumreads are always Town and the scum are who I least suspect but it appears ThAdmiral takes that spot so this leaves me the tiniest bit more confident in town Fugi.

N

ot going to abandon any moderate reads in favor of him.

For those of you playing at home, that spells N-O G-U-N.

I thought Fugitive MIGHT be a Godfather, hence my statement being ambiguous enough to suggest that I would actually consider lynching him, but today I learned that Godfathers return “no result” from Gunsmiths so at this point I’d consider Fugitive clear from my point of view unless he’s some sort of insane Serial Killer who didn’t kill anyone for three nights.

After my list that pretty much SCREAMED Power Role (at least I thought so), I figured I was likely dying, but I investigated

Baby Spice

as I was sold on Ortiz but I just couldn’t bring myself to think of a scum Furcolow in this game. I got no result, so I think I was blocked last night.

Right now Ortiz is my number one read. I think his metas completely contrast mine. I think I doubt myself a LOT as Town and when I’m scum (only in short little games, not actual forum games, so I don’t know how accurate I am on this) I push WAY hard on people and try to act like a Town leader. Ortiz seems to be very self-deprecating when he’s scum, stuff like “Geez I can’t believe I was wrong” or lots of those smiley faces that go :/ (I noticed quite a few of them in SHM5) but when I read SHMWT where he was a Doctor he appeared to take a very pro-town stance, almost as a leader, trying to get everyone involved and active. In that regard, while meta has always failed me in the past, I think I’ve got a successful meta argument here (inb4 meta is useless, I get it) and I can go re-read him except all of my ISOs on players I find scummy just turn into tunnel vision walls.

PREVIEW EDIT: Diddin’s PM to me was delayed. Baby Spice has no gun so at this point I’m almost sold on an Ortiz/Furcolow scumteam. I'd still like everyone else to claim but this is what I've got and I'd like to get this on the table since I don't think I'll be doing anything but Chemistry and Physics for the remainder of the night.

[Furcolow]

well, i'm not scum, so there goes that idea.
also, i was under the impression gunsmith GIVES GUNS.

[Furcolow]

I'm the last townie, apparently. Scum will have to counterclaim if they claim townie.
I doubt there are more townies than me.
I wish I could counterclaim cop. I, however, do not feel like making up reports.

I'd be more apt to believe a watcher claim than a "gunsmith"
that's cute.

[Baby Spice]

Vanilla town

Personally I've always found Furc unreadable. But I do not like that claim he made.

[Furcolow]

vote: baby spice

[Furcolow]

wait,

unvote

for now

[Furcolow]

FOS: BABY SPICE

i doubt there would be 6 townies
waiting for other claims

[Fugitive]

quick post before school. I'm a VT. I'll have more content tonight / tomorrow.

[Furcolow]

wow.
wow.
no

[Furcolow]

ok, so babyspice + fugitive claiming VT directly counterclaims olivea claiming that they are both innocent TO ME
i know i am innocent
one of you 3 is lying, liar

[Olinea]

well, i'm not scum, so there goes that idea.
also, i was under the impression gunsmith GIVES GUNS.

A Gunsmith checks one person per night and gets a result of "gun" or "no gun". Obviously, Mafia members will show up as "gun", but to my knowledge Cops and Vigilantes also come up "gun" so even if you get a guilty result it's not set in stone you just investigated scum.

You're thinking of the Epicmafia Gunsmith.

[Furcolow]

well, where i KNOW i'm a townie,
a) there is a godfather
b) your sanity is in question
c) your claim is in question

also, 3 VT claims? 2 right after mine? I say we lynch between fugitive/bs
probably guaranteed scum lynch if we do

i just dont see how they could both be innocent to you
makes no sense to me

vote: olinea

[Furcolow]

UNLESS GF
but if that's the case, what can I do? WIFOM on that.

[Olinea]

For someone who claims to be Town you sure are loose with your vote in what appears to be LyLo, Furcolow.