Mini 1091 Mafia Mania -- Game Over

[Antihero]

Nope, I just said I had nothing to claim...

@Antihero
There's also the possibility of a naive investigation. A cop clear for now doesn't leave much to go on and I would press anyone pushing a godfather case.

Anyone else find the first part odd?

A naive Jack of All Trades?

That's kind of beside the point. My issue was that his willingness to abandon his position makes me question how genuinely he held it.

By the end of today I'll throw my vote on AntB. Unless you guys want to wait around for Moose's replacement.

Hm, it's things like these that make me seriously question my reads.

UNVOTE:

Reading through your ISO, I really don't see you having much issue with AntB all game, and now you're swooping in for the lazy hammer? Why do you think AntB is scum? Any other scumspects?

[Mariyta]

Here's a nice bit of WIFOM for ya. If Max is scum and Ant is town, he could have hammered and put us in LyLo tomorrow, but he didn't. It could be that he just didn't think of it, but it's something to think about. I also think we should wait for moose's replacement. Boberz insistence on ending this day before the replacement comes makes me very uneasy.

[boberz]

insistence? when

i am fed up of misreps mari

[Mariyta]

Fuck it. I'm tired of the attitude and the constant accusations that I'm "misrepping" when I point out flaws in his play. He's scum and I'm happier lynching him than AntB.

VOTE: boberz

[AntB]

@Antihero:
So if I had kept up the pressure despite a cop clear on Mariyta you wouldn't be suspicious of me?


Don't write off AttM as scum when I flip, I just get the feeling he isn't paying close attention..

[boberz]

I did not insist at all, I explained there was no logic behind the reasoning to wait for moose's replacement and suddenly I am scummy.

This feels like a bloody newbie game.

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 3.06

AntB - 2 - boberz, Dekes
Antihero - 1 - AntB
boberz - 1 - Mariyta

Not Voting: Ant_to_the_max, moose200x, Antihero

Deadline: February 5.

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

All votecounts have been edited; they should be correct at this time.

[Dekes]

*sigh* I'd rather get rid of the sloppy obvious scum first instead of the probably-scum-too-but-primaliry-a-dick person. Anyone else up for that boberz lynch?

Btw, if anyone's still wondering whether ATTM is town or not, should take a look at his latest post.

[Antihero]

Here's a nice bit of WIFOM for ya. If Max is scum and Ant is town, he could have hammered and put us in LyLo tomorrow, but he didn't.

I've never seen scum quickhammer to

get

to LYLO. That sounds like suboptimal play to me.

@Antihero:
So if I had kept up the pressure despite a cop clear on Mariyta you wouldn't be suspicious of me?

Well, no. I would have expected more of a disgruntled "ugh, fine" response rather than a kind of apologetic and hasty one you gave.

Don't write off AttM as scum when I flip, I just get the feeling he isn't paying close attention..

Wait a second, I thought you were "calling him as scum" last page.

[Ant_to_the_max]

That's kind of beside the point. My issue was that his willingness to abandon his position makes me question how genuinely he held it.

Reading through your ISO, I really don't see you having much issue with AntB all game, and now you're swooping in for the lazy hammer? Why do you think AntB is scum? Any other scumspects?

Oh, wasn't trying to make a point about your post through his here. Just trying to point out how his first statement through up a red flag for me, and how his second statement didn't seem like a valid setup.

Yeah, that is true. Going into D2 I never did have a problem with AntB. I even defended him against Bob's "game breaking case" on him. And at that point it wouldn't have been a lazy hammer, it would have been a lazy vote to put him at L-1. With Bob pegged as scum, that leaves you, Dekes, and AntB. Setting aside Dekes, only you and AntB are left. When I look at Lat's D1 actions, I feel that he is more town than AntB. I will be honest though, my post that I was doing my highlight ISO read on him did get very half assed.

Don't write off AttM as scum when I flip, I just get the feeling he isn't paying close attention..

I'm not paying attention?

[AntB]

Don't write off AttM as scum when I flip, I just get the feeling he isn't paying close attention..

Wait a second, I thought you were "calling him as scum" last page.

Could have been worded better, I'm saying when I flip town, don't write AttM off your suspisions list, he's here alright, but he doesn't seem to be paying

close

attention to the game. He's been under the radar a lot and he's provided a nice little point himself,

I will be honest though, my post that

I was doing my highlight ISO read on him did get very half assed.

Why so "half assed" over it?

[Nobody Special]

Xtoxm replaces moose200x effective immediately.

[Xtoxm]

Hello everyone.

I haven't played in two years so i'm probably a bit rusty.

I'll work on reading the thread over the next few days, then i'll try and make a meaningful contribution.

[Mariyta]

Welcome, Xtoxm. We look forward to your fresh insight.

[Dekes]

Seconded. The game has stalled (as predicted with the delay of AntB's lynch) and a new perspective would be much appreciated.

To save all of us time maybe look at recent events first. I think, the opinions and the suspects of the rest of the people are pretty much dead set at the moment.

[boberz]

Seconded. The game has stalled (as predicted with the delay of AntB's lynch) and a new perspective would be much appreciated..

[Xtoxm]

If everyone's opinion is dead set, why are Antihero and AttM not voting? I don't like this. If the game has stalled because it, they should have placed their vote by now.

I'm on page 14. I'll confirm Moose's roleclaim. I'm glad he investigated Mariyta, she's the only player who by this point I am still finding completely unreadable.

Top suspicions are AntB and AttM, circa p14.

More to come.

[Mariyta]

If they voted, AntB would likely be lynched and most of us want your input before going to night.

[Ant_to_the_max]

If they voted, AntB would likely be lynched and most of us want your input before going to night.

Pretty much this. I was witholding my vote so things don't tip into the night. Antihero unvoted because of something I said. I am just waiting for your opinion now.

And a very blunt answer to AntB's question: girls

[Xtoxm]

Ok. Please continue to withhold your votes, in that case.

Page 24 now, a lot has happened in these last 10 pages.

@AntB, you believe you have an unorthodox playstyle. Your play here looks very orthodox to me. Could you explain to me why you feel you are different from the norm?

Not liking Boberz. His reaction to moose's kill threat was abysmal and screams of scum trying to save his own arse. His case against AntB at the start of D2 was completely empty. He talks too much, yet he has managed to have, as far as I can tell, no interactions with Substrike22. He is looking and quacking in a very much anatine fashion.

FoS: Boberz

Also, Lateralus has contributed far too little for my liking (up to page 24).

[Xtoxm]

I am almost caught up now, page 29. I am going to be busy over the next two days, I may not even be able to get on mafiascum. But after that I will finish reading the thread and have some opinions to offer and questions to pose. So I ask, please do not end the day before I have a chance to do this.

[Antihero]

To save all of us time maybe look at recent events first. I think, the opinions and the suspects of the rest of the people are pretty much dead set at the moment.

Well, hold on, wait a second.

Did anyone else think it was weird when max came in and said "hai gaiz, hammertime!" and didn't have a problem with the lynchee...ever?

Am I crazy? Mari, what do you think?

[Dekes]

Why'd you quote me on that one?

Anyway, to clear up any suspicions towards ATTM, this is not a scumpost. Ever.

[boberz]

You will have to explain why

[Dekes]

Because unlike you he wanted a townie with an action left to actually have time before the lynch/during the night to use that action with the knowledge of what's been going on in this thread and not risk a rushed last minute replacement to make a decision based on a skimread.