Mini 1102 - Rivertown Mafia (Game Over!)

[Olinea]

i just dont see how they could both be innocent to you
makes no sense to me

I do.

Because it's you and Ortiz.

Also I remember seeing that Godfathers return "no result" on Gunsmith investigations so I'd think that point is moot. I can try to double-check after lab today.

[Furcolow]

I'm not loose with my vote
your investigation results are shit
i know im town
there should be two scum
you've pinpointed 2 innos making me and ortiz scum?
im not fucking scum
therefore, either you're not town, or you lost it for the town, so i can blame someone else

end of story, BRO.

[Furcolow]

im really disliking this setup for town if olinea's claim is correct, and BS/fogi are a GF type role

[Furcolow]

fugitive = fogi

[Olinea]

I'm not loose with my vote

You voted Baby Spice, unvoted hastily, then voted for me. Within the span of a page. In LyLo.

your investigation results are shit

They very well could be, hence my hesitation to place a vote right now. That and I'd like to see Ortiz weigh in on the matter.

i know im town

I don't.

there should be two scum

Likely so.

you've pinpointed 2 innos making me and ortiz scum?

5 people - 1 Olinea - 2 people without guns = 2, yes.

im not fucking scum

Which is reiterating "I'm town".

therefore, either you're not town

My role PM says otherwise.

or you lost it for the town

I haven't voted.

so i can blame someone else

You can blame whoever decided not to kill me.

end of story, BRO.

I had nothing witty to say so I guess I'll point out that I like the "bro" there.



I'm hesitant to simply throw my vote on either you or Ortiz because of the fact that the only person I have as confirmed Town to myself is... myself. As such I don't know if there's PR stuff going on that could have tampered with my results. I don't know if you're flailing scum or Town trying who genuinely believes I'm scum. I'm going to go research a bit and find out how Gunsmiths interact with Godfathers and come back.

[Baby Spice]

I suggest people be very careful about voting. Town Furc will jump on any wagon that starts to form and set us up for a scum-hammer mis-lynch so quick.

One more claim and then we can continue.

[Fugitive]

I think it's safe to assume there's 2 scum. 3:9 seems incredibly common in 12 player setups. I couldn't imagine only one scum left. That makes this lylo, of course.

Definitely getting a flailing vibe from Furc now.

Oli is my strongest town read left in this game, especially after that claim and reports, so I'm inclined to lean toward a furc/ortiz team as well. Especially after furc's recent behavior (and ortiz's recent behavior too). I'd PREFER to lynch furc today, as I'd like to think ALL my scum reads can't be wrong and he's been my strongest since Day 1, but I could probably settle for ortiz because I'm not getting a town ortiz read anymore. Especially after that hammer yesterday.

Also, can we get some more content from you BS? I just realized I don't remember reading a single substantial post from you since you replaced it. Who are your picks for scum? I'm seeing a lot of soft defense of furc solely based off of meta and that's kinda weird / scummy, especially with how apparent he's being that he is, indeed, scum.

Now let's see what ortiz has to say / claim.

[Baby Spice]

lol, yeah I've been coasting a bit.

Not defending Furc as much as trying to be careful of him. A town furc is risky/dangerous for the town, a scum furc can get away with lots because of how he always plays. Especially in LYLO.

[Fugitive]

You still dodged my question. >_>

Who are your picks for scum?

[ortiz1193]

vote: olinea

[Fugitive]

Vote: Olinea

[el simo]

DAMNIT FURCOLOW.

Good effort guys..

[diddin]

Final Day 4 Votecount

ortiz1193 (0)
Furcolow (0)
Baby Spice (0)

Olinea (3) Furcolow, ortiz1193, Fugitive

Fugitive (0)
Not Voting (2) Baby Spice, Olinea


Only five remained. Olinea, almost certain the end was nigh, made his claim. He claimed he was an expert gunsmith and was searching Rivertown for guns. Furcolow, twitching with eagerness, cast his vote for Olinea. In a flash, ortiz1193 and Fugitive had their votes cast in, and Olinea's fate was sealed. They threw him off the cliffs and watched him die. Afterwords they checked his house. It was choc-full of guns, and all with legal permits.

Olinea,

Town Gunsmith

, was lynched Day 4!

Ortiz and Fugitive then turned to Furcolow and Baby Spice. Ortiz pulled a gun and shot the two dead in their tracks. "We won," he said to his boss Fugitive. "Just as planned."

Baby Spice,

Vanilla Townie

, was endgamed Day 4!
Furcolow,

Vanilla Townie

, was endgamed Day 4!

ortiz1193,

Mafia Goon

, survived and won Day 4!
Fugitive,

Mafia Godfather

, survived and won Day 4!
ThAdmiral,

Mafia Goon

, won with his living teammates Day 4!

That's all, folks! All players and others may discuss the outcome of the game. I'll post my thoughts and a list of all role PMs later!

[Fugitive]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt4329_W_s0

[el simo]

God damnit people think for one second, IF FURCOLOW WAS SCUM THEY WOULDN'T HAVE EVER KILLED ME.

:'<

Good effort though, it was a fun game. I struggled to get a good read until Ortiz' lynch post. After this game and my recent mod game I'm never not lynching someone in situations like that again.

[Fugitive]

EBWOP: No fair! oritz got to kill BS and Furc?

Anyway, good game guys. I had fun.

[InflatablePie]

Can I ask some questions?

1) Was I that obvious of a vig? If so, why?
2) Fur, with no other possible info roles claimed or flipped, why would you vote the one info role claim?! Actually, why would you vote in LYLO at all?
3) Not a question, but I was totes gonna claim JOAT and fake a guilty to draw the kill. I guess it's a good thing you killed me, only because it probably woulda been on Z. I woulda gone after oritz AND Fugi after Z flipped town, but I woulda been lynched in LYLO had I faked a guilty.
4) Also not a question, but I liked the setup, diddin.

[diddin]

Can I ask some questions?

1) Was I that obvious of a vig? If so, why?
2) Fur, with no other possible info roles claimed or flipped, why would you vote the one info role claim?! Actually, why would you vote in LYLO at all?
3) Not a question, but I was totes gonna claim JOAT and fake a guilty to draw the kill. I guess it's a good thing you killed me, only because it probably woulda been on Z. I woulda gone after oritz AND Fugi after Z flipped town, but I woulda been lynched in LYLO had I faked a guilty.
4) Also not a question, but I liked the setup, diddin.

thanks bro

Cool Notes: Scum originally had a Roleblocker too. I was told to take it out for balance. BG turned up with no gun for balance issues as well.

[ortiz1193]

Pie, you made a post that assumed 3 scum after 2 kills that night... We knew 3 scum meant no SK, so vig was likely. Town should've auto assumed a SK imo... you assuming 3 scum like that was pretty obvious you made the kill.

I was so obviously scum, I'm embarrassed.

Nice job CB, Pie, El Simo, everyone else who realized how obvious I was.

PLEASE NOTE THE TRAIL OF DEATHS OF PEOPLE WHO SUSPECTED ME

2 posts in the last 2 days = lol

I thought the setup was terrible until Olinea's claim. I like it now though.

[Fugitive]

1) Was I that obvious of a vig? If so, why?

747
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I really assumed there would only be two town PRs since we had no scum PRs. I was pretty shocked when Oli claimed gunsmith. If we hadn't hit a PR every night we would have been doomed. Not sure that it was that balanced.

[ortiz1193]

http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/ywFkAkEZwrHm

[Fugitive]

Is there a dead thread?

[InflatablePie]

Fair enough. I need to stop being obvPR in my games.

I did have a softclaim in Post 355, too. The last question posed to Olinea. I thought that was too obvious and was surprised I was still alive the next day. o_o

[InflatablePie]

*posed to me from Olinea

[diddin]

http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/hsghVnWbCzQYs Dead QT
http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/35xXBFv2qDMyG Mod QT