Mini 1091 Mafia Mania -- Game Over

[boberz]

Erm no. That was crap he spouted when I informed him that the mod was half decent.

I have replaced into spots with actions before it is easier in many ways (mods give yu enough time, and a brilliant mod anounces before the night starts that as replacements are being looked for night will be x lng instead. whether or not that person has an action) this eliminates mod wifom. You can also analyse things differently, it has no bearing, was merely a way to slow the day (not that slowing the day is scummy.)

[Mariyta]

To save all of us time maybe look at recent events first. I think, the opinions and the suspects of the rest of the people are pretty much dead set at the moment.

Well, hold on, wait a second.

Did anyone else think it was weird when max came in and said "hai gaiz, hammertime!" and didn't have a problem with the lynchee...ever?

Am I crazy? Mari, what do you think?

I'm still torn about Max. He hasn't been super overtly scummy like some, but he hasn't been crazy townish, either. I think a lot of it has to do with him being fairly new and that he has yet to be scolded properly on how people on MS expect others to play. There are a great many things that the "experienced and knowledgeable" players will claim you should/would never do as town that newbies in fact do all the time. Then there's the possibility that he truly did agree with all the lynchees.

Everyone

has been scummy at one point or another and the only reason I'm not arguing for my safety right now is because moose (who nearly got lynched D1) managed to prove his innocence and confirm mine. Max is potentially scum, yes, but AntB and boberz are by far the better candidates for today.

[AntB]

@AntB, you believe you have an unorthodox playstyle. Your play here looks very orthodox to me. Could you explain to me why you feel you are different from the norm?

I like to screw with meta. the clue is just after that part on the wiki.

P-EDIT
I also have a habit of not playing to site-meta it seems...
@Mariyta
So your using AttMs newbness and the lack of him being scolded to clear him of scuminess?

[Mariyta]

@Mariyta
So your using AttMs newbness and the lack of him being scolded to clear him of scuminess?

As I've already said, I'm clearing him

for today

. I love how both you and boberz like to take things and twist them, then accuse others of "misreps."

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 3.07

(unchanged)

AntB - 2 - boberz, Dekes
Antihero - 1 - AntB
boberz - 1 - Mariyta

Not Voting: Ant_to_the_max, Xtoxm, Antihero

Deadline: February 5.

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

There are no prods required at this time.

[AntB]

Was meant in relevance to today.

[boberz]

@Mariyta
So your using AttMs newbness and the lack of him being scolded to clear him of scuminess?

As I've already said, I'm clearing him

for today

. I love how both you and boberz like to take things and twist them, then accuse others of "misreps."

When have I twisted? You have misrepped on many occassions even after being practcally confrmed town.

[Mariyta]

Whatever.

Xtoxm, can we kill boberz yet, please?

[Antihero]

Why'd you quote me on that one?

Anyway, to clear up any suspicions towards ATTM, this is not a scumpost. Ever.

Because you used "pretty dead set," which I actually think is a pretty accurate description, and that worries me.

I disagree with you that the post you linked me to clears max, BTW.

[Xtoxm]

Whatever.

Xtoxm, can we kill boberz yet, please?

Boberz might actually be town. The more I think about this game, the more I think that {AntB, Max} is the most likely mafia pairing. Max's actions don't make sense from the perspective of a townie. When you consider AntB's interactions with the other suspects, Max is the only one that makes sense for him to be paired with. I'm leaning towards lynching Max. I think he's more likely to be mafia than AntB (AntB's vote on Max does make sense from the perspective of AntB-town), and if we are to mislynch, hypothetically, A Max-mislynch tells town more than an AntB-mislynch.

I still need to read these last 5 pages, which I don't have time to do right now. I will tomorrow morning.

[boberz]

A Max-mislynch tells town more than an AntB-mislynch.

How so?

Wouldnt it just leave us in the same current quandry but in lylo. ANtB is in your hypo partnership it should be him first

[Xtoxm]

AntB is my hypothetical partner to Max-scum, not the other way around.

Boberz, working on the assumption that Max flips town, who exactly do you suppose AntB is scum with?

[Ant_to_the_max]

How do they not make sense with a townie's perspective?

[boberz]

AntB is my hypothetical partner to Max-scum, not the other way around.

Boberz, working on the assumption that Max flips town, who exactly do you suppose AntB is scum with?

Attm. The person I think he is scum with. But I am not doinf a massive linking case between these people

[Xtoxm]

Ok I am caught up now. My primary suspicion is still {AntB, Max}, i'm not super confident, but I find it hard to see other pairings.

I think we need to decide what i'm doing with this roleblock. I'm dying tonight, and I don't want town to be hurt tomorrow by wifom about who I did or didn't block.

[Xtoxm]

Oh, and Dekes, If you still need a back up mod I would be more than happy to help.

[Xtoxm]

How do they not make sense with a townie's perspective?

When I look at the game through your role and assume I am town, the only pairing that makes the slightest bit of sense to me is {Boberz, Dekes}, but you want to lynch AntB, and to be honest it looks like you are just saying that for the sake of it because he is your partner and you feel he is a lost cause.

I do not see {AntB, Boberz} and {AntB, Dekes} as plausible mafia pairings.

Boberz has slamming AntB since the start of today and there was no need to do this if they were both mafia, and clearly Boberz does not have enough town credit to win this thing on his own. The mafia would very much love to mislynch today, I really don't see Boberz doing this.

Dekes, more plausible, he does have the town credit and I could see him busing hard if he thinks if partners are playing sloppily. Still, I doubt it. I realised around page 30 that Dekes is going to win this game, so i'm kinda banking on him being town.

[Xtoxm]

Boberz has been slamming* (Mod, could you correct that and delete this post, possibly?)

[Mariyta]

Fine. I give up. UNVOTE: boberz, VOTE: AntB

If you truly think the Ants are partners, I suggest blocking Max. Of course, WIFOM will ensue anyway as we discuss whether the mafia decided not to kill because they wanted to implicate Max, but even if that's the case, his mislynch would give us an extra day and more information.

P-edit: As many of you will read this wrong and assume I'm saying I don't think Max is scum, THAT IS NOT THE CASE. I'm saying IF he flips town tomorrow, not when.

[Xtoxm]

I wouldn't say I truly think they are, it's that I think they are the most likely pairing. The only thing that would surprise me is if Mariyta or Lateralus were mafia.

[boberz]

We should not organise your roleblock xtoxm. If we mislynch then we give mafia that free kill.

[Xtoxm]

So my brief appearance in this game is going to come to an end less than a week after I replace in

My tips for tomorrow:

• Don't just jump on Boberz without considering all the options
  
• Don't, for the love of god, start wifoming about my roleblock. Don't even mention it.
  
• Trust the Lateralus/Antihero role.

Good luck town.

[Dekes]

Posting from phone. Just a heads up, won't be able to post properly for another ~24 hours.

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 3.08

L-1 AntB - 3 - boberz, Dekes, Mariyta
Antihero - 1 - AntB

Not Voting: Ant_to_the_max, Xtoxm, Antihero

Deadline: February 5. (One week and 90 minutes from this post.)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[Antihero]

How do they not make sense with a townie's perspective?

minimalistic, nonoffensive approach = not townish

Fine. I give up. UNVOTE: boberz, VOTE: AntB

If you truly think the Ants are partners, I suggest blocking Max. Of course, WIFOM will ensue anyway as we discuss whether the mafia decided not to kill because they wanted to implicate Max, but even if that's the case, his mislynch would give us an extra day and more information.

P-edit: As many of you will read this wrong and assume I'm saying I don't think Max is scum, THAT IS NOT THE CASE. I'm saying IF he flips town tomorrow, not when.

Could you please summarize why you want boberz lynched, please? I feel like you're throwing in the towel here, and that's bad.