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Post Post #1900 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:35 pm

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Caught up. Will post more from work tomorrow. TMH needs to hang I think.

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What did I say about hanging him yesterday? Too much stuff can happen at night to keep a person alive just for an ability.
I swear I left my gun somewhere.
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Post Post #1901 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:56 pm

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How many abilities did you have last night DGB?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1902 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:01 pm

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PSS
I had no abilities last night
I swear I left my gun somewhere.
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Post Post #1903 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:16 pm

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I passed to implosion night 1. I had an ability night 2 which I passed.

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I've been planning to do this at the beginning of day 3 for pretty close to all of day 2; I've seen nothing yet to convince me otherwise. Nero could maybe be scum, but TMH is more likely in my opinion.
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Post Post #1904 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:19 am

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apparently scum are just going to mass onto the TMH wagon. I don't really blame them, but scummy=/= scum.
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Post Post #1905 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:34 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:RedCoyote was all chummy with pops. It's almost embarrassing. I don't think these two are scumpals.

RedCoyote was going against TMH quite rabidly. Could be a great big Greyhound
. Toot! Toot! Splat.

RedCoyote did not dare speak Nero Cain's name. They are scumpalz 4 shure.
I called this D2. I said that if TMH and CKD are scummates, scum would probably try to bus TMH to protect CKD, knowing CKD would not be able to send the tree stump to TMH as we commanded him to do.

Could also be why RC was asking "Do you really have the tree stump". He needed to know to bus TMH. And since you get the abilities at the end of the night, he probably wouldn't have known for sure that CKD had it.

If I survive the night, I will be passing the tree stump back to CKD if TMH flips town based on the above.

TMH has to be the lynch today.

A few people have not chimed in yet, so the virus still could be in play, but with the bus driver gone and the dayvig possibly with the void collector, I think we forego the virus/dayvig today and just lynch TMH once everyone has chimed in.
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Post Post #1906 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:39 am

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I don't see how you can associate CKD not sending in an action with TMH's guilty. That really just doesn't make sense to me
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Post Post #1907 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:48 am

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Roles that could determine a lack of scum teammates:

Treestump: Implosion -> Curiouskarmadog -> I Am Innocent (“Randomly” Sent?)
Day Vig:
diddin
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RedCoyote
/Void (Not verified)
Void Collector: (nobody D1) -> I Am Innocent ->
Hibernate Ability:
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/Void/Collected by I Am Innocent ->
?: popsofctown -> DrippingGoofball -> randomly assigned?
?: Bunnylover -> nhammen ->
?: nhammen -> Implosion ->
?: q21 -> Implosion ->
?: Saint -> q21 ->

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I Am Innocent: two power roles D2 passed along
Implosion: had two power roles D2 passed along
nhammen: had one power role D2 passed along
q21: had one power role D2 passed along
themanhimself: Passed DayVig to RC/Void

Curiouskarmadog Claims to not have sent Power Role from D2
DrippingGoofball: Claims to not have sent Power Role from D2

popsofctown: Vanilla Town D2
Saint: Vanilla Town D2
Nero Cain: Vanilla Town D2
WrathChild: Vanilla Town D2
Bunnylover: Vanilla Town D2

LynchMePls ?

When Day 4 happens we should do the following in order:

1) Everyone in their first post state who they sent an ability to Night 2
2) Once
everyone
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Post Post #1908 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:55 am

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Saint wrote:I don't see how you can associate CKD not sending in an action with TMH's guilty. That really just doesn't make sense to me .
#1 CKD was ordered to send his ability to TMH and agreed to do so
#2 Scum cannot send standard abilities to their teammates
#3
The only loophole
left if CKD and TMH are scum teammates is to not send it to anybody and say you forgot to send it, though it was stressed over and over again in the thread.
#4 CKD said he forgot to send it.

Still not make sense to you
at all
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PS - Factor in we know (if TMH is scum) that RC was ready to bus him that day. Which makes me wonder if scum was worried about #2...
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Post Post #1909 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:57 am

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@Mod, if scum do not send in their choice on who to pass the ability to, does the randomized pool consists of all players or all players excluding that scum's teammates?
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Post Post #1910 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:01 am

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Whoops, just noticed I left StrangerCoug off my list above. Just waiting on him and LynchMePls to chime in.
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Post Post #1911 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:03 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote: RedCoyote did not dare speak Nero Cain's name. They are scumpalz 4 shure.
RedCoyote wrote:
NC 340 wrote:If the virus and daykill are whipedout then...idk it seems like the game could be unbalanced without a mafia kill and he's said some pretty questionable things about it (the kill).
Can you elaborate on this, please? To me, this sounds like you have information about scumkills that I didn't get in my role PM...
Oh hai liar scum.
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Post Post #1912 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:22 am

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I Am Innocent wrote:#4 CKD said he forgot to send it.
hoping to get to this game today...

saw this and it popped out as super scummy.

is that what I said?...or is it that I havent been on the site until sunday and I MISSED getting in my choice? being the good little scum hunter you want everyone to believe you are, I assume you checked to see if I was lying??? no? OOOOhhh, you rather misrepresent me and lie...
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Post Post #1913 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:36 am

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curiouskarmadog wrote:
I Am Innocent wrote:#4 CKD said he forgot to send it.
hoping to get to this game today...

saw this and it popped out as super scummy.

is that what I said?...or is it that I havent been on the site until sunday
and I MISSED getting in my choice
? being the good little scum hunter you want everyone to believe you are, I assume you checked to see if I was lying??? no? OOOOhhh, you rather misrepresent me and lie...
Yet you posted
6 minutes
after the mod opened up the thread??? Doesn't work that way bud, sorry.
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Post Post #1914 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:13 am

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IAI (1905) - I get why you'd suspect CKD more if TMH flips scum... I don't get why you would specifically sent CKD the stump if TMH flips town.
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DrippingGoofball wrote: RedCoyote did not dare speak Nero Cain's name. They are scumpalz 4 shure.
RedCoyote wrote:
NC 340 wrote:If the virus and daykill are whipedout then...idk it seems like the game could be unbalanced without a mafia kill and he's said some pretty questionable things about it (the kill).
Can you elaborate on this, please? To me, this sounds like you have information about scumkills that I didn't get in my role PM...
Oh hai liar scum.
Wait. So you go through RC's 56 posts and find the one, solitary time where he makes any sort of comment to you (still doesn't mention you're name, btw) and use that to refute the point that he didn't interact with you. Right, is it just me or is that an unnaturally desperate attempt at defence?
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Post Post #1915 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:36 am

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q21 wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:RedCoyote did not dare speak Nero Cain's name. They are scumpalz 4 shure.
RedCoyote wrote:
NC 340 wrote:If the virus and daykill are whipedout then...idk it seems like the game could be unbalanced without a mafia kill and he's said some pretty questionable things about it (the kill).
Can you elaborate on this, please? To me, this sounds like you have information about scumkills that I didn't get in my role PM...
Oh hai liar scum.
Wait. So you go through RC's 56 posts and find the one, solitary time where he makes any sort of comment to you (still doesn't mention you're name, btw) and use that to refute the point that he didn't interact with you. Right, is it just me or is that an unnaturally desperate attempt at defence?
It's not just you.
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Post Post #1916 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:37 am

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I don't think I'm voting.

Vote: Nero Cain
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Post Post #1917 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:44 am

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I Am Innocent wrote:I called this D2. I said that if TMH and CKD are scummates, scum would probably try to bus TMH to protect CKD, knowing CKD would not be able to send the tree stump to TMH as we commanded him to do.

Could also be why RC was asking "Do you really have the tree stump". He needed to know to bus TMH. And since you get the abilities at the end of the night, he probably wouldn't have known for sure that CKD had it.
There is an error in your chain of logic. RC was scum. If TMH and CKD are scum together, then RC is scum with TMH and CKD. >>> there would be no need for RC to confirm the tree stump with CKD in-thread.
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Post Post #1918 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:46 am

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No one is telling is if the dayvig is in the Void. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Post Post #1919 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:54 am

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Oh wait - do we know if scum has daytalk?

Saint, not that I disagree with your vote, but can you explain your stance on TMH vs. Nero Cain?
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Post Post #1920 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:15 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Oh wait - do we know if scum has daytalk?
Already asked a while ago, never received an answer.

DGb wrote:Saint, not that I disagree with your vote, but can you explain your stance on TMH vs. Nero Cain?
My stance on why TMH is more likely Town in spite of being the most grandiose idiot in the world has been outlined in my catchup posts here, here, here, and here. I would also like to point out that RedCoyote-now-confirmed-scum tried to use a faulty experience-based argument against him. However, tmh's refusal to help himself (and continuing to actively harm Town) is making me get a bit fed up with defending him. I still don't want to push for his lynch, but I can't blame the people who ARE any more.

Nero Cain was an unreadable-leaning-Town read for a while, then as D2 continued he started to look progressively scummier, and his defense now is just really bad.
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Post Post #1921 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:45 am

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I Am Innocent wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
I Am Innocent wrote:#4 CKD said he forgot to send it.
hoping to get to this game today...

saw this and it popped out as super scummy.

is that what I said?...or is it that I havent been on the site until sunday
and I MISSED getting in my choice
? being the good little scum hunter you want everyone to believe you are, I assume you checked to see if I was lying??? no? OOOOhhh, you rather misrepresent me and lie...
Yet you posted
6 minutes
after the mod opened up the thread??? Doesn't work that way bud, sorry.
and 40 minutes after deadline what is your point? and I notice how you scooted around the point that you lied...I didnt say I forgot...i said I missed...for I did...and I also noticed how you didnt mention that you meta-ed my current games to see if yes, i indeed was around until last night.

anyway....need to catch up....


so if tmh flips town, why are you giving me the treestump? am I still scum either way?...bullshit and a scum bag.
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Post Post #1922 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:46 am

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edit, "wasnt around"
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Post Post #1923 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:33 am

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:: VoteCount 3x1 ::


LynchMePls (0) -

themanhimself (3) -
curiouskarmadog, Bunnylover, q21

DrippingGoofball (1) -
themanhimself

WrathChild (0) -

curiouskarmadog (1) -
Nero Cain

Nero Cain (1) -
Saint

q21 (0) -

popsofctown (0) -

Bunnylover (0) -

I Am Innocent (0) -

StrangerCoug (0) -

Implosion (0) -

nhammen (0) -

Saint (0) -


Not Voting (8) -
LynchMePls, popsofctown, implosion, DrippingGoofball, WrathChild, I Am Innocent, nhammen, StrangerCoug


With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.



I Am Innocent wrote:@Mod, if scum do not send in their choice on who to pass the ability to, does the randomized pool consists of all players or all players excluding that scum's teammates?
It would consist of only valid targets for their cycling.
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Post Post #1924 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:25 am

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curiouskarmadog wrote:
I Am Innocent wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
I Am Innocent wrote:#4 CKD said he forgot to send it.
hoping to get to this game today...

saw this and it popped out as super scummy.

is that what I said?...or is it that I havent been on the site until sunday
and I MISSED getting in my choice
? being the good little scum hunter you want everyone to believe you are, I assume you checked to see if I was lying??? no? OOOOhhh, you rather misrepresent me and lie...
Yet you posted
6 minutes
after the mod opened up the thread??? Doesn't work that way bud, sorry.
and 40 minutes after deadline what is your point? and I notice how you scooted around the point that you lied...I didnt say I forgot...i said I missed...for I did...and I also noticed how you didnt mention that you meta-ed my current games to see if yes, i indeed was around until last night.

anyway....need to catch up....


so if tmh flips town, why are you giving me the treestump? am I still scum either way?...bullshit and a scum bag.
1) My point is that you "conveniently" showed up right as the Day started. You were MIA the whole night, and came back with your "alibi" right after the day started. I don't buy the coincidence that your timing of coming back from being LA/V was that close to the Day 3 starting.

2) Your defensiveness and weak attacks that I "lied" are well noted. Are you saying you remembered that you needed to do cycle your ability, but that you had 0 time to get online to do it??? Do you admit that it was critical to send your ability to TMH???

3) I meta'd your current games after you weakly attacked my scumhunting abilities. And yes I noticed how conveniently your time off the site paralled the night in this game where you "needed" to be MIA to avoid sending an ability to your teammate.

4) My earlier post had a typo, if TMH flips scum, yes I will be gunning for you hard. A few have brought up good points, if you are likely scum does it behoove us to take you off the lynch list D4 by giving you the treestump. I'll have to think hard.

So yes, if TMH flips town, my whole argument gets thrown by the wayside. But the parallel between you, TMH, and RC seems to real to me.

My Top 3 right now
TMH
CKD
q21

Nero Cain feels like the easy target today, the DBE/Powerox/Helghast of prior days.

Would like to see everyone's Top 3 suspects please. Also please chime in if I should or should not send the TreeStump to the next scummiest player after TMH, being that TMH is the likely lynch today.
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