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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:10 am

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fair enough. I still don't like your arrogance one bit. its scummy as hell. The fact you are telling about your own meta is also weird. You could be changing it up now.

Edit: This whole me killing fate is really depending on if my lover is killed/lynched though. So until then is really nothing but mute speculation.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:47 am

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Thoughts:

1) Faraday said he would be v/la until Tuesday, yet he posted many times after that. Did something change?
2) Dram's claim still seems crazy, but I'm at a loss. I don't know why one would claim that early and for no reason, and the miller claim seems suspect. (Since Fate, jason, or chess (who actually acknowledged the post) didn't respond to my query.)
3) jason's claim also stands out to me for mostly the same reasons. I'm not familiar with reck's games, but apparently I shouldn't be reading too much into these. (Aside: I'm used to playing in such a fashion that you don't claim unless you are close to lynch, and that all claims are analyzed. Plus, generally speaking, you lynch the claimant on day 1 because they can't be trusted to have told the truth and you get info from their death and why people voted them. My vote will probably go to one of these two then.)
4) Apparently, chess and Fate are playing in the style of post lots of things while doing a flame war and finger anyone who reacts to it. I guess that means they'll be fingering me as scum soon. (Looks like they're already on that path with their recent comments in my direction.)
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:52 am

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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:11 am

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1) Faraday said he would be v/la until Tuesday, yet he posted many times after that. Did something change?

^^ yeah, forgot it's transfer deadline day, so I skipped Uni and stayed at home.

so like who's scum jedo? also a miller isn't a death miller, a death miller is someone that shows up as Mafia when they die. a miller just appears as guilty to cops.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:24 am

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AGar wrote: But yeah, SSS and JasonT - they're the ones that need to go.

Start with SSS, as he's keeping an avenue for Jason to stay out of real discussion for this character speculation.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Smashbro_of_the_SSS
I had a genuine question so I asked it, not toward anyone in particular. I wasn't inviting jason to ignore anything going on in the game. Anyone could have answered that.

Is there anything else that makes me scum?

You also mention there seems to be more support for my lynch... if im right, no one else mentioned me yet, since i only made one post.
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Unvote:
Vote: SSS


Just read his only post (I think its his only) just fucking horrible.
Explain how my post is horrible. I take not of something that I would be expecting AGar to do, based off the other time I played with him.

And yes, you didn't vote the person you said you wanted to vote for (Jason) even though there isn't anything stopping you. why not vote who you want dead?
chesskid3 wrote:Not gonna lie, the SSS wagon is tempting.
Why can't I vote for both Faraday and SSS? :(
What would be your reasoning for voting me?
jasonT1981 wrote:I will say though, I do agree SSS needs content ASAP or he will go up in my suspicions.
The thread opened two days ago, and I was busy on the weekend. Don't expect a lot from me, a post or two a day. if you don't like it, tough. I'll try to come on more than that, but I would rather have fewer posts with content, rather than one liners that are unimportant.



I still don't like Fate's votehopping, especially the OMGUS on me after I voted him.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:30 am

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Faraday (3): chesskid3, Cogito Ergo Sum, Primate
chesskid3 (1): Faraday
dramonic (1): Bella
Bella (1): vezokpiraka
Fate (2): jasonT1981, smashbro_of_the_SSS
smashbro_of_the_SSS (2): AGar, Fate

Not voting: dramonic, mockingjaye, Jedo the Jedi


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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:33 am

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wiffle/waffling around everything? Check
Calling a vote on you OMGUS to discredit? Check
Cracking at L-5? Check
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:36 am

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AHHHHHHH.


Fate what is happening?

Chess what is with the faraday wagon?

Fate again why are there two people voting you?

Jedo WTF ? That like more than scum. You aren't afraid when being questioned but before it.

This game is so weird.

I think I'll keep my vote on Bella for now but if SSS makes the same kind of shitty posts I think I'll move to him.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:36 am

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Actually

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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:39 am

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(Vezoks in this game?)

(Why is faraday still voting chess?)

Ill answer your questions when not on a phone
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:46 am

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Yeah I am.

Game started and I just posted two times.

But now I am here full force.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:54 am

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UGH fucking SSS, stop being bad. Town bad, but still.

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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:04 am

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:That's exactly what I mean when I say "support". I'd've said "bandwagon" if I were talking about votes. The potential votes combined with someone pushing a wagon would create pressure in and of itself and a jasonT is clearly more likely to produce a viable wagon.
Alright, that works then. I see what you're saying.

And I kinda wanna ask if Jason is just trying to win the Coffee on the Monitor scummy right now. F'real.

This has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

A death miller AND a vengeful daykilling suicide bomber lover?

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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:05 am

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Holy fuck where did those three pages come from?

FUUUUUUCK.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:06 am

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Will somebody please explain to me what I am doing wrong? How are my posts scummy?

I called Fate's vote OMGUS because he gave no reason for a vote for me, other than the fact that my post was scummy. He did not explain why it was scummy, so how does that make me scum? Just because someone says something doesn't mean it's true.

I don't call asking why I'm being voted "cracking at L-5".

What do you mean by "wiffle/waffling around everything?"



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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:26 am

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mafiawiki wrote:Sometimes an important part of a Miller role is that the player is not told this aspect of their role. Rather the Moderator assigns one person to be the Miller, but only tells him/her that the role is a vanilla townie. Thus, the Miller cannot simply claim their role Day 1 as a prevention against lynching.
This is what I'm talking about. Again, why would you claim so early anyway? I don't buy it.
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vezokpiraka wrote:Jedo WTF ? That like more than scum. You aren't afraid when being questioned but before it.
Who said I'm afraid? Just because I went ahead and shot down the attack I saw coming? I just died in a game with chess, and he would do this thing where he labels everybody because of their "scum/town reads." (At this point, his reads can be neither confirmed nor denied.) As much as mafia has been played and these reads have become common place, people know how to fabricate them. I think putting stock in these reads is mostly worthless, but somehow people like chess still point them out and still others believe them and go along with it. I was just heading one such instance off at the pass. (Chess: "Goddamnit Jedo you're better than this.") I can only imagine that was him saying, "You are town, Jedo, don't do scumreads," which was pretty much what he did in that other game.

Anyway, I prefer gaps in logic, which, unfortunately, can be pretty useless here. Some of the things going on already seem illogical (note my previous post), so those are some of my top suspects. Of course, I'm not so narrow-minded as to let that be my only deciding factor, but it's a big one. (You can see what I mean if you read some of my posts from that other game.)

A good example is that I find the people on SSS suspicious. The reasoning for voting him has been flimsy and illogical. Plus, he's an easy target. That ought to be answer enough for you, Faraday.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:34 am

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It's fairly standard practice these days for millers to know that they are millers and this is especially true of Death Millers (THEY WERE NOT MEANT TO BE!). Claiming it early is the right play.

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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:35 am

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Good lord SSS wants to know why he's scum.


AXE PLEASE.

And yes AGar, /agree with the "FFS another Reck set-up"
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:48 am

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:It's fairly standard practice these days for millers to know that they are millers and this is especially true of Death Millers (THEY WERE NOT MEANT TO BE!). Claiming it early is the right play.
Thank you. That is something I was looking for.
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Fate wrote:Good lord SSS wants to know why he's scum.
I'd like to know why too.

I'll move to one of the SSS voters whom I think has bad reasoning.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:08 pm

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Actually, I would love a full case on SSS also.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:13 pm

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go to the bottom
where it says display posts by user
select smashbro_of_the_SSS
click go.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:34 pm

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or how about someone outline the actual cases on people?

this game is full off Person (X) is scum, Person (Y) needs to die and yet NO ACTUAL FUCKING REASONS. Scum are fucking loving this right now I would say. Town are just aimlessly pointing fingers declaring people as scum and not backing their shit up.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:21 pm

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JasonT's claim is JasonT's claim, not productive talking about it.

Having trouble reading people. Jedo set of my scumdar, needs to see whether there's anything in that. I can see why SSS recieved stick after post #179, and my reaction was similar to chesskids in the sense I thought it was bit of an odd step. I don't know about Faraday, Bella, CEM, others. Liking what I'm seeing from Chesskid, Fate and vezok.

Hopefully I'll be a bit more on the ball tomorrow.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:45 pm

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This game currently reminds me of pages 85-92 of my copy of New Moon, in which the pages are blank and Bella is depressed. There's about as much content in the Fate/chesskid3 spamfest and I'm depressed because I'm stuck in a game with those two. Sigh.

jasonT1981's claim is... meh. It's nothing without the context of who the lover is and there's no real reason to claim that right now.

I would quite like Dramonic to post soonish, preferably with a better explanation of the flavor behind his role. It makes sense in the context of series three, but he hasn't shown up since the lazy flavor claim that seemed consistent with Reck's method of providing safe-claims.

Smashbro is reacting very badly to very minimal pressure. It's almost too scummy in the sense that scum would at least try not to lose it so readily.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:53 pm

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Why does a lover claim depend on who the lover is?
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