Mini 1090: Of Rogues and Curses ~ Game Over

[VP Baltar]

Also, the best part of you having a meta on my scum play is that you no longer have to bother with the policy lynches! Hurrah! I really am sometimes useful as town (despite what you've seen from me.)

Well, unfortunately this meta is more about the shape of your play, to steal a term from you. So policy lynches are obviously the quick road to victory.

Hulk Hogans of mafia scum

Whatcha gonna do, when Troll and Sotty run wild on you?

[Zorblag]

@Vi, yeah, at this point we're just missing a game in which we're town together (discounting 3rd parties and multiple scum teams.) I wonder if we combine our forces to try to make it happen whether we can cause the scum to lose or if scum are just going to win all our joint games?

The Hulk Hogan thing is from Post 13 in this Scum QT from NG 1029.

Also, I don't know if you realize it but Troll and Sotty are two of the strongest players on MS, I mean they are like Hulk Hogans -- a casual glance by both of them almost completely cracked this game for town.

Embarrassingly, we went on to lose the game as town despite the apparent intimidation factor. At least we never really attacked each other during the loss (having just come off a hydra game as scum we had a decent idea of what to expect from that front which I think helped.)

@VP Baltar, ah, shape of game or shape of play. I like that sort of tell a lot. I'd imagine that I'm pretty susceptible to it. In any case, if you can get a policy lynch on me in early game (no matter what my alignment) I probably deserve it that game so I should stop trying to talk you out of the attempt before it even happens.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Vi]

@Vi, yeah, at this point we're just missing a game in which we're town together (discounting 3rd parties and multiple scum teams.) I wonder if we combine our forces to try to make it happen whether we can cause the scum to lose or if scum are just going to win all our joint games?

Considering I'm tempted to just put in "Mafia Win TBD" on all of my ongoing games on my wiki page, well...

I'm commenting on the Hulk Hoganness partly because it clashes with your forum persona (that pic you posted, maybe not so much) and partly because my most recent memory of him was his cameo in Muppets From Space

[Zorblag]

@Vi, I left my copy of Muppets from Space with Obi-Wan (Ythill's son) last time I went to visit. I sort of think that he's watched The Muppets Take Manhattan more of the two that I brought. I can see how the Hulkster's personality doesn't really fit mine particularly well though in any of its incarnations.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Vi]

I'm not sure whether to appreciate that you've also seen Muppets From Space or do a double-take at the name of Ythill's kid.

[Zorblag]

@Vi, I don't see any good reason you couldn't do both.

Muppets From Space is my third favorite of the Muppet Movies. It's pretty underrated in my opinion. I didn't run Second String Muppets Mafia just by coincidence after all.

Ythill and Xine have a delightful son in Obi-Wan. I hope to be there for his 4th birthday coming up in a while.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[gandalf5166]

Wait, Ythill's kid is named Obi-Wan?

[Zorblag]

@gandalf5166, so I claim. Also, I shouldn't have been but I really was thrown for a bit of a loop with your original day cop claim. I was unclear enough about the setup that I couldn't actually rule it out reasonably and it felt like you did a nice job of reading my hesitation despite my attempt to hide it at the start.

Nice work.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[xvart]

Troll - don't worry about it; I wasn't really irritated but more frustrated at the situation. I am curious, as to what VP thinks of you supporting my lynch at that moment. I think it was VP that said when we were scum together in Clash of Kings that keeping the team together is most important due to removing another lynch from the town's hands. Troll, I'm really glad you pulled this out for our team and I hope someday we can be scum together again; maybe I can redeem myself.

Also, I can't stress enough about gandalfs stupid daycop thing and how that threw me off. Well done on that. I've been in plenty of games where someone has fake daycopped but I've never been in a game where my scumbuddy has been the target of a fake daycop. And I feel stupid for even admitting that.

I certainly need to focus more on the long term game when I am playing; that is one thing that became painfully obvious to me.

[Zorblag]

@xvart, I'm not that worried but I did feel a bit worse than I often do while I was hammering you. If we play scum again I suspect that expectations will be there and it'll go more smoothly. I really do respect your scum play so it'd be fun to give it a second run at some point.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[gandalf5166]

I think it's rather funny that I faked a daycop on scum. Frankly, I don't know why I wasn't immediately suspicious of you and Troll when you took it seriously.

[Vi]

I think it's rather funny that I faked a daycop on scum. Frankly, I don't know why I wasn't immediately suspicious of you and Troll when you took it seriously.

It goes back to what crypto was saying earlier - watching a game from the outside is much different from playing inside.

I think the skill - or intuition, whichever - I need to work on at this point is to be able to cut that difference down... Basically, to stop doing things that make the people in the dead thread facepalm. Or, to become this.

[Ythill]

Out of curiosity, what would the thief steal from me?

Oh yeah, I forgot to list those...

Temptress = Heart-shaped Locket
Magician = Top Hat
Herbalist = Dried Herbs
Crone = Ungrika Clan Seal
Fortune Teller = Playing Cards
Hypnotist = Pocket Watch
Juggler = Knives
Beggar = Coins
Tattoo Artist = Needles
Male Minstrel = Mandolin Strings
Female Minstrel = Pitch Pipe

[Zorblag]

Hmm, I might have been able to justify dried herbs as a brewer. It's better than the mortar and pestle that I'd feared in any case.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Zorblag]

@Ythill, oh, and Troll would have nth'd the flavor bit in the scummies thread but posts past the 4th get ignored. Troll chose not to clutter that thread as it no would have a meaningful impact but Troll be happy to say that Troll would have posted if it would have made a difference.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[VP Baltar]

@Ythill, oh, and Troll would have nth'd the flavor bit in the scummies thread but posts past the 4th get ignored. Troll chose not to clutter that thread as it no would have a meaningful impact but Troll be happy to say that Troll would have posted if it would have made a difference.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

Thank you! I get so annoyed when people Nth things into oblivion. I don't know why, but that just really irks me in the Scummies thread.

[tanstalas]

@Ythill, oh, and Troll would have nth'd the flavor bit in the scummies thread but posts past the 4th get ignored. Troll chose not to clutter that thread as it no would have a meaningful impact but Troll be happy to say that Troll would have posted if it would have made a difference.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

Thank you! I get so annoyed when people Nth things into oblivion. I don't know why, but that just really irks me in the Scummies thread.

N'th

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

[Vi]

@Ythill, oh, and Troll would have nth'd the flavor bit in the scummies thread but posts past the 4th get ignored. Troll chose not to clutter that thread as it no would have a meaningful impact but Troll be happy to say that Troll would have posted if it would have made a difference.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

Thank you! I get so annoyed when people Nth things into oblivion. I don't know why, but that just really irks me in the Scummies thread.

N'th

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

(N+1)^th

[hasdgfas]

Fin