Newbie Game 1058: Murder in Bitville! (OVER!)

[Cirno]

Not saying you want to lynch Crack Head

Cirno nice AtE/Insults/Hating on newbies/Getting personal/Breaking rule 11. Seriously you are an SE, act like one,

being rude to try to get other to mis lynch a newbie is messed up

.

That is

exactly

what you are saying. Please explain to me how my posts were an attempt to get Crackhead lynched.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Cirno that was the same post don't break it up, that is misrepping me and once again scummy.

And like I said I'm not saying that, my point is that if all of a suden you push for his lynch it's going to piss me off and I will push like hell for your lynch.

[Cirno]

Cirno that was the same post don't break it up, that is misrepping me and once again scummy.

I broke it up to better illustrate the point. Explain to me how I am misrepping you.

And like I said I'm not saying that, my point is that if all of a suden you push for his lynch it's going to piss me off and I will push like hell for your lynch.

And I want to know where you got the idea I would push for his lynch.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Because it is typical scum to get mad at a person and then use that as a reason to vote, and then sheep townies into doing the same.

And don't break them up and put them out of order to make a point, because if I had written it in that order the point would be obvious.

[Cirno]

But I didn't push for his lynch at all. You are attacking me for something you

think

I

might

do.

[mothrax]

*puts player hat on*

Mist reads less to me like flip-flopping scum and more like a newbie who just wants to make friends... MafiaScum is srsbzns.

Shotty, between 119 and 121, you think I am scum hiding as town, after that you go "oh no, I never called you scum"
self contradiction is scummy.

FOS Shotty

[Kcdaspot]

da fuck? BW on me?

I can only post what I see. if y'all want I can do a rundown...

[drmyshottyizsik]

^More active lurking.

@

Moth

I wasn't calling you scum, I was saying if you were an experienced IC then your actions would be very scummy.

[Mist7676]

Srry I havent been posting. I do have a life sorry.

I'll porabaly by V/LA on Friday. Going to the movies with friends

well Mothrax its already page 10 so you don't need to be having everyone anwer the questions anymore. That is more of a confirming stage kind of thing. As to the current situation I think Cirno and Mothrax are scum
MY REASONING!!:
1)Cirno tried to push a lynch on Mothrax
What could that mean? Maybe she was trying to get herself killed and make it look like Mothrax is clear. Being pushed to lynch by scum. Also it could make everyone NOT want to lynch Mothrax because of her annoyingness and pushness and just lynch someone else and save them both for a day.
2) she was all over lynching Mothrax in the beggining than stopped.
What could that mean? She could have just say that no one is jumping on it than stopped trying. Or she never really wanted him lynched. Notice how in the beggining she was only posting to push the lynch on Moth. What happened now??
3) At the beggining she tried to buddy with as many people starting that Central Time Buddies.
What could that mean? Maybe she was trying to risk getting lynched or make her lynches stronger with her backup.
4) she doesn't provide good reasons when trying to push a lynch on someone.
What could that mean? She doesn't have any reasons she just wants someone to die besides her. When she pushed on Mothrax she posted Tarot Cards. When she wanted me dead all she said in 1 post was "Mist is Mafia"

If you haven't voted Cirno yet I advise that you should soon. She has many scumtells and isn't a very good SE.

[Mr. Flay]

Third Official Vote Count of Day One

Cirno - 3 (tylerjarvis, Mist7676, CrackHead)
Kcdaspot - 3 (Cirno, drmyshottyizsik, mothrax)
drmyshottyizsik - 2 (Kcdaspot, Hazard with a Glove)

Not Voting: Hoppster

With nine alive, it will take five to lynch.

tylerjarvis has been prodded.

[Kcdaspot]

First he says I'm buddying now i'm active lurking. why in the hell are you so keen on seeing me lynched? LEAVING ALONE the fact that my vote for you was WAY before your vote on me.

[drmyshottyizsik]

The timing of the vote doesn't matter it is the reason for the vote. Your vote had no, and has no reasons, my vote on you though has lots of reason that I've already stated. I'm starting to feel a Kcdaspot/Cirno scum team.

[Cirno]

@Mist

:
1 - Alternatively, the objective wasn't to get either person lynched but to get the game going
2 - Correct, the purpose was not to get him lynched. Though the wagon gave me actual reasons to suspect Mothrax, it did not give me any to tunnel him.
3 - I won't bother trying to argue this.
4 - Actually, I did explain why you were mafia here

@Shotty

: Explain why KC and I are scumbuddies.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Together you guys don't really have a connection yet, but apart you two are the most scummy looking. Kcdaspot for the reasons I've pointed out, and you lesser for the reason Mist has pointed out.

[Cirno]

For clarity's sake, can you compile your suspicions of KC into one post?

[Hoppster]

@Hopp

: The eyeroll smilie leads me to believe that you don't actually believe that "mothrax & KC are scum". Is there anybody in particular you

do

believe to be scum?

Actually, they are my top two candidates for scum at the moment. I was just being ironic.

I don't think I've seen enough of tylerjarvis, HwaG or CrackHead (obviously) to say for sure, but my opinion of each player so far is:

Cirno: Mixed feelings. My gut feeling is strongly town though, however some of your characteristics are a bit odd (you tend to be a bit too abrupt/blunt/harsh for my liking).

CrackHead: Bit concerned about his first post. He claims that Cirno's behaviour could be a scum strategy that he doesn't understand due to him being a noob, however from that viewpoint it could surely also be town strategy that he doesn't understand. He may be being sarcastic though as well, it's hard to tell.

drmyshottyizsik: I was suspicious at first, but more recently he's had some good points. Likely town imo.

HwaG: He was extremely defensive of KC when Cirno attacked KC regarding the V/LA. Possibly buddying in my opinion, but it's not enough to go on really. Lack of posts prevent me having a clear scum/town viewpoint on HwaG.

KC: A bit too off-hand for my liking. Seems quick to dismiss others' posts/attacks/general play, without any real meat behind it. Top candidate for scum in my eyes as I'm not exactly sure what he's contributed. Admittedly I am also slightly guilty of this, but I don't have as many posts as KC (who when ISO'd goes onto 2 pages) and in that number of posts it feels like he's achieved nothing.

FoS: KC

Mist: Not convinced by her case on Cirno, but I have a tentative town read on her.

mothrax: Not really sure what to make of mothrax yet. No real opinion on him atm. However, seeing as he has the most posts of the people whom I have a 'neutral' feeling about, I'm inclined to think he could be scum.

tylerjarvis: Not enough content for me to form a justified opinion quite yet. Needs to post more though.


I completely disagree with Mist (and shotty's) case/opinion on Cirno.

1)Cirno tried to push a lynch on Mothrax
What could that mean? Maybe she was trying to get herself killed and make it look like Mothrax is clear. Being pushed to lynch by scum. Also it could make everyone NOT want to lynch Mothrax because of her annoyingness and pushness and just lynch someone else and save them both for a day.
2) she was all over lynching Mothrax in the beggining than stopped.
What could that mean? She could have just say that no one is jumping on it than stopped trying. Or she never really wanted him lynched. Notice how in the beggining she was only posting to push the lynch on Moth. What happened now??
3) At the beggining she tried to buddy with as many people starting that Central Time Buddies.
What could that mean? Maybe she was trying to risk getting lynched or make her lynches stronger with her backup.
4) she doesn't provide good reasons when trying to push a lynch on someone.
What could that mean? She doesn't have any reasons she just wants someone to die besides her. When she pushed on Mothrax she posted Tarot Cards. When she wanted me dead all she said in 1 post was "Mist is Mafia"

If you haven't voted Cirno yet I advise that you should soon. She has many scumtells and isn't a very good SE.

(1) is a possibillity, however with (2), I am satisfied with Cirno's explanation that the early mothrax wagon was to fast forward RVS. (3) I feel was just something that came with the mothrax wagon, and (4) - she did justify suspicions of Mist, and also, she had no paticular reason to justify the mothrax wagon given its existence only to fast-forward RVS.


@ shotty: Could a mothrax-Cirno connection not be Mist's point (1)? Or do you disagree with this?

@ mothrax: Previously, you described a FoS as a "weak vote placeholder". What is the point of you FoS'ing shotty if that's your opinion?

@ Cirno & KC: What are your opinions on "FoS"?

[Cirno]

What are your opinions on "FoS"?

So, imagine you are playing mafia in real life with some friends. You've got the little cards and everything. Its day and you start the discussion. Suddenly, another player points a finger at you, calls it the 'Finger of Suspicion', and refuses to stop pointing. As the discussion continues, he continues to point with a smug 'I know you're scum' look on his face. However, he is completely wrong. You come to realize that your friend is truly an idiot as he mouths the words 'YOU ARE SCUM' to you from across the room. Whenever you FoS, think of that guy.

I don't do it myself and generally ignore it when it is done to me. It is just another way to say you suspect someone.

[Kcdaspot]

FoS's mean nothing. votes are actions. actions speak louder than words.

That do it?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Kcd taunting hoppster into voting you doesn't help you case.

[CrackHead]

CrackHead: Bit concerned about his first post. He claims that Cirno's behaviour could be a scum strategy that he doesn't understand due to him being a noob, however from that viewpoint it could surely also be town strategy that he doesn't understand. He may be being sarcastic though as well, it's hard to tell.

I just don't see how trying to getting everyone to vote for an arbitrary player on the first round will help town? Surely that's something that only scum want to do.

[CrackHead]

*get
Is there any way to edit posts?

[Cirno]

No, Edit is disabled in mafia games on mafiascum.

[CrackHead]

O and Mothrax,
I have played mafia a little bit in real life, my time zone is +12

[Kcdaspot]

Kcd taunting hoppster into voting you doesn't help you case.

That wasn't a taunt. That's my philosophy.

[Kcdaspot]

honestly sorry if that DID seem like a taunt.