SitMOA II - [Endgame] The end...

[Riceballtail]

Beef: You should confirm the mod-given info of there only being six anti-town members.

[CryMeARiver]

beefster if Gandalf is the deathgodfather of one of the team, wouldn't that make you the other deathgodfather since the only reason Gandalf was reserrected was because of his powers (assuming that what death godfather do) which would mean you would be the other one (2 scum team).
I just think that ridiculous logic and smack you on the head.
Also it wasn't Gandlaf who wanted the items, it was the active players who said Gandalf should have the items.
Btw since their are 3 professor (Beefster, RBT, the lurker that is unknown) doesn't that mean you 3 can preform a ritual again?
Another thing about the professor, how exactly is everyone dead who was a professor. I mean if you think about it you all were using allias so it makes no sense (unless some slipped) for them to be dead in the first place, but this is me just rambling.

I don't know, I haven't really read Malt as scummy.
I dislike CMAR vote on Malt. If you never supported Katy lynch, well you would want Malt lynch instead of Katy, why would you go with the lynch that Malt had started against Katy?

Because the clear said he would be testing VT's and I support that general method. However I don't think Katy will flip scum. In my mind, Vezo would flip scum before Katy. Also, I have expressed my misunderstanding of the Katy wagon the entire game because, as Katy insists on pointing out time after time, no one ever really answers her questions but Malt, and his are not quite sufficient.

[ThAdmiral]

vote: malt

I'm basically sheeping this game since theres a bunch of confirmed but I like this better than a lynch of either of the vts.

[Snow_Bunny]

-Votecount-

1- Beefster

[Bleeding]

(0)
2. Katy

[Healthy]

(4) - gandalf5166, vezokpiraka, SnakePlissken, malthusis
5. gandalf5166

[Healthy]

(0)
9. CryMeARiver

[Healthy]

(0)
10. Bunnylover

[Healthy]

(0)
11. vezokpiraka

[Bruised]

(0)
12. SnakePlissken

[Healthy]

(0)
13. ThAdmiral

[Healthy]

(0)
15. Riceballtail

[Healthy]

(0)
16. malthusis

[Healthy]

(4) - Beefster, CryMeARiver, Katy, ThAdmiral

Not voting (2) - Bunnylover, Riceballtail,

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Katy and malthusis are at L-2.

Deadline is on February 22 at midnight (GMT -5)

[SnakePlissken]

I agree that its better not risking oneof the VTs and instead

Unvote, Vote malthusis

Thats L-1 Malt... Got anything to say?

[Bunnylover]

I can totally get behind a Malthusis lynch, he's been posting misinformation all game. I also just noticed that when he originally posted about people not voting Katsuki he made it a choice between me and RBT only, and only later after the pressure on me was well underway with Gandalf's support, casually threw in the fact that Bunnylover also fit that criteria.

No he mentioned me but said he had a town read on me.

@CMR: I don't see in your ISO that you expressed concern about whats happening to Katy, but I could be wrong (could have missed the post). But the thing I don't like about your vote is that you voted Katy even though you disagreed with the reason she is getting lynched and you see that no one has significant reason to lynch her.
Again you say you would rather have another person (Vezo) lynch before Katy, yet your vote goes on Malt (which is understandable since he kinda lead the Katy wagon).
:< This is why I like it when people post reasons they have or are agreeing with when they vote.

@Snake: I don't think anyone is saying that lynching a VT is bad or a risk.

Exactly where has Malt been this day? He needs to come in here and give us his claim.

[malthusis]

I'm going to write up a post later today, but a quick question...

Exactly where has Malt been this day? He needs to come in here and give us his claim.

Are you talking role-claim or some other claim?

[malthusis]

I'm going to write up a post later today, but a quick question...

Exactly where has Malt been this day? He needs to come in here and give us his claim.

Are you talking role-claim or some other claim?

EBWOP: *facepalm* Never mind.....

[CryMeARiver]

@CMR: I don't see in your ISO that you expressed concern about whats happening to Katy, but I could be wrong (could have missed the post). But the thing I don't like about your vote is that you voted Katy even though you disagreed with the reason she is getting lynched and you see that no one has significant reason to lynch her.
Again you say you would rather have another person (Vezo) lynch before Katy, yet your vote goes on Malt (which is understandable since he kinda lead the Katy wagon).

Neither Katy or Snake have specifically stuck out to me, I'm gonna go reread them.

...how did we deduce Katy was sorcerer scum again? I still don't see any commanding evidence...

I actually thought there were more. But here are the two I found.

Bunny, if you look at my vote on Katy, I voted her because I analyzed CoolDog and found that CoolDog didn't even mention Katy in one of his posts. Also, I admit, I was sheeping the clear a bit with that vote. Now I realize that CoolDog didn't mention a few people in his ISO.
Yes, if it came down to Katy and vezo, I'd lean vezo. But I'd rather lynch malt before I lynch either of the VTs.

[malthusis]

Okay, here's my claim:

I'm a Warmage (wizard). In addition to the few spells I have left, I have a spear that does 3 points of damage.

N1 Attacked Katsuki with a spell (Failed, used up slot and took 1 HP damage from something)
N2 Attacked Katsuki with spear (I have no idea whether this worked)
N3 Attacked Beefster with spear (Probably the reason behind Beefster's stabbed kill)
N4 Had Inbox problems, don't know whether I sent my action in. It was going to be stabbing Katy with my spear, though.

I don't really see the reason behind why you want me lynched beside the case on Katy. Can anybody sum it up for me?

[CryMeARiver]

Okay, here's my claim:

I'm a Warmage (wizard). In addition to the few spells I have left, I have a spear that does 3 points of damage.

N1 Attacked Katsuki with a spell (Failed, used up slot and took 1 HP damage from something)
N2 Attacked Katsuki with spear (I have no idea whether this worked)
N3 Attacked Beefster with spear (Probably the reason behind Beefster's stabbed kill)
N4 Had Inbox problems, don't know whether I sent my action in. It was going to be stabbing Katy with my spear, though.

I don't really see the reason behind why you want me lynched beside the case on Katy. Can anybody sum it up for me?

Hmmm this flavor could easily be mageslayer or whatever (I think I remember gandalf saying something about swords) turned to town. Yes, I will attempt to sum up a case on you.

[gandalf5166]

Hmm....... That claim makes me jumpy. Warmages are not wizards; while last game Thad was a pyromancer, and this game, I'm an ice savant, those are both prestige classes that one can choose AFTER starting from the base class of wizard. Warmages are actually their own class, thus making them not technically wizards. I'm not sure what to think.

[gandalf5166]

Actually, ignore that. I just did some research, and ice savant is not actually a class. S_B clearly took a couple of creative liberties.

[Bunnylover]

Dislike Malt claim because No one alive can say its true or not.
Also a Warmage sounds more like yellow scum

I've been leaning on town with Malt, and I'm sticking too that until I hear CMR case.

[CryMeARiver]

Dislike Malt claim because No one alive can say its true or not.
Also a Warmage sounds more like yellow scum

I've been leaning on town with Malt, and I'm sticking too that until I hear CMR case.

Just checking in and letting you know it likely won't be til tomorrow Gonna be out tonight

[Beefster]

Beef: You should confirm the mod-given info of there only being six anti-town members.

I thought I did... I confirm anyway.

[Riceballtail]

If nobody objects, I'm fine with hammering Malt.

I suspect he's the last sorcerer.

[malthusis]

*facepalm*

Why are you so eager to lynch me even though nobody besides Beefster has shown any reasoning behind my lynch?

[Beefster]

I don't really see the reason behind why you want me lynched beside the case on Katy. Can anybody sum it up for me?

Gut.
I can't really explain it, but I've hated the way you've tried to mislead the town. Thankfully, you haven't actually been able to influence much.

[malthusis]

Mislead?

I think Katy is scum, and I've pushed my case on it fairly hard. How is that misleading?

[Bunnylover]

Not really liking this.
Malt isn't the only one who wants Katy lynched. He is the one who brought up the attention of Katy as scum, but it does not take 1 person to lynch someone it takes (Insert majority number of vote).
Also we can't call it misleading if we don't know if Katy is town or scum.

[Beefster]

Not really liking this.
Malt isn't the only one who wants Katy lynched. He is the one who brought up the attention of Katy as scum, but it does not take 1 person to lynch someone it takes (Insert majority number of vote).
Also we can't call it misleading if we don't know if Katy is town or scum.

What's your opinion then?

[Bunnylover]

Not really liking this.
Malt isn't the only one who wants Katy lynched. He is the one who brought up the attention of Katy as scum, but it does not take 1 person to lynch someone it takes (Insert majority number of vote).
Also we can't call it misleading if we don't know if Katy is town or scum.

What's your opinion then?

I would lynch Katy over Malt.
Katy claimed VT after Vezo claimed VT. Frankly I dislike VT claims which should be obvious why.

Although both cases (from what I understand) are not great.
Right now its basically this logic been used:
I think Katy is scum ~ says the players who think Katy is scum.
No I think Malt is scum ~ says the players who think Katy is town.
I personally don't have either ping as scum, Malt is on the town side while Katy is leaning scum but not scum.

Another thing is I dislike TheAdmiral vote right now. The confirmed players affect players gameplay because even if we disagree with them, we are more inclined to agree with them because they are confirmed. TheAdmiral shows that in his recent post, just sheeping the confirmed players.

Also another thing, what is wrong with lynching a VT player? If we don't lynch them, scum is less likely to kill them if they are town because they have no powers and therefore no threat to them, if we don't lynch them and they are scum well we lose.

[ThAdmiral]

Let's get this to night.

unvote, vote: malthusis

[gandalf5166]

Oh god, ThAd, you're really bad at this scum thing. In fact, that vote looks so much like a bus that I even think malt might flip scum.

Change of plan for tomorrow: We're lynching ThAd.