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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:39 am

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Doros wrote:
DavidParker wrote: I have to say I am becoming more and more confident in Doros scum.
So DavidParker, are you confident enough to follow MrBump suggestion and sacrifice yourself if I am proven to be town? :P
At this point, yes.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:22 pm

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DP wrote:Using spoiler tags isn't "hiding text" as there's a very obvious drop down menu to show it. Just makes the post look cleaner. "Hiding text" would be using color to make it blend into the background.
As a mod, I can tell you spoiler tags tend to be frowned upon in games. I don't mind when I'm modding as long as there isn't a vote or unvote or mod note in there.

I can't get behind the whole sacrificing one player for another unless it involves a counterclaim (that isn't VT). Just in case it's relevant, the whole point of my post tat asked questions in the beginning of the game was the gouge how much each player knew and what I should be teaching, it was nothing more or nothing less. So unless someone was chopped off to delibrately misrep Doros, I don't see anything scummy about it.

I will be doing a nice re-read of DavidParker tomorrow and I think this is the game where I have a few outstanding questions to answer aswell, so I'll get on that too.
Seriously. Read your role PM before playing.
I am sorry if you have to prod me, I have absolutely no concept of time.

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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:39 pm

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I never suggested sacrificing anyone, I said it was a BAD idea and Doros attacked me based on me being hypocritical and suggesting it later. Which I didn't.

WHY NO POSTS, EVERYONE?
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:55 am

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DavidParker wrote:
Vitt wrote:Mmm, now that I think of it... DavidParker, you have a way of convincing people. It's exactly because I am so easily swayed by your arguments, that I am so skeptical of you. I hope, for the sake of my faith in humanity, that you're not scum.
I'm glad you think so.
Part of being town is being able to convince other people(who are town) to vote the person who you think is scum.
I'm not asking you to blindly follow me; I'm just asking to look at the reasoning presented to you, and well if you agree with it, then all the better.
Being convincing isn't just something scum do
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You see, Parker, this is exactly why I am not entirely convinced that you are town. It is exactly in scum interest to be convincingly town. It is in scum interest to be able to convince townies that they (scum) are town. I am saying, you arguments are often very convincing - not in showing your town/scum alignment, but in being convincing. I am easily convinced by your arguments. If you are town, then fine. But if you are scum, then I am letting myself be played. That's what makes me nervous and that is why I reserve judgement on your alignment. In short, you make me nervous...
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:07 am

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SxyBeast wrote:Hey srry I haven't played guys I just started a new term and it is a b**ch and, to be honest, I also lost track of what day it was and forgot when the night phase ended.
Scumbucket!

SxyBeast wrote:
Vittorio Salamdien wrote:E.g. "makes me
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make us seem
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How is that circumlocution?
It is/was clear what Gapoc was doing. In short, Gapoc
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trying to make you look like scum. It didn't seem like he was, I didn't need to think that it seemed he was... he was. You could have said: "Gapoc, you're trying to make me look like scum", instead of "[Your activity Gapoc] makes me think you were trying to make us seem." I.e. 5 verb phrases - 'makes', 'think', 'were trying', 'to make', 'seem' - versus 3 verb phrases - 'are trying', 'to make', 'look' - sound to me like circumlocution.

You are smelling riper and riper like the rotting scum that floats in dirty harbour waters.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:30 am

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"You are smelling riper and riper like the rotting scum that floats in dirty harbour waters."

Sig'd.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:08 am

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VIttorio what do you think of the "him" gapoc threw into his post since you are voting for SxyBeast, I take it you think gapoc was leaving that there to trick us??
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:46 am

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Vittorio Salamdien wrote:
SxyBeast wrote:Hey srry I haven't played guys I just started a new term and it is a b**ch and, to be honest, I also lost track of what day it was and forgot when the night phase ended.
Scumbucket!

SxyBeast wrote:
Vittorio Salamdien wrote:E.g. "makes me
think
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trying
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make us seem
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How is that circumlocution?
It is/was clear what Gapoc was doing. In short, Gapoc
was
trying to make you look like scum. It didn't seem like he was, I didn't need to think that it seemed he was... he was. You could have said: "Gapoc, you're trying to make me look like scum", instead of "[Your activity Gapoc] makes me think you were trying to make us seem." I.e. 5 verb phrases - 'makes', 'think', 'were trying', 'to make', 'seem' - versus 3 verb phrases - 'are trying', 'to make', 'look' - sound to me like circumlocution.

You are smelling riper and riper like the rotting scum that floats in dirty harbour waters.
Well I wasnt sure and if he flipped town it wouldnt matter wat he said. but now that hes maf it is obvious but at the time it wasnt
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:03 am

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DavidParker wrote:
Doros wrote:
DavidParker wrote: I have to say I am becoming more and more confident in Doros scum.
So DavidParker, are you confident enough to follow MrBump suggestion and sacrifice yourself if I am proven to be town? :P
At this point, yes.
This is a pretty strong statement.

At this point the three who are most being discussed as scum seem to be Doros, SxyBeast and DP.
Since SxyBeast is a girl I still think the chances or her being scum are low (despite how scummy she's been acting).

I would be willing to vote Doros, due to 'it's' scummy actions. This would accomplish two things:
  • Doros DOES seem to be skirting a lot of issues and questions directed at 'it'. I can't tell if this is because it is scum or becaues it is just an annoying pain in the butt. Either way it's anti town and potentially dangerous if it is scum.
  • IF Doros does flip town I would be interested to see how David Parker reacts given the above quote.
Therefore I would be willing to switch my vote to Doros if everyone feels it is worth a lynch.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:20 am

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I'm in agreement that I don't think we should be lynching SxyBeast based on the "him" slip presented by gapoc earlier, which more or less just leaves Doros or MrBump who I am willing to lynch today. Doros has been far scummier.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:46 am

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And Vittorio, and yourself :P

Doros has avoided the gender question again and again and again, even recently. It's like it just skips the posts entirely.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:51 am

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Umm, I said who I'm "willing" to lynch today :p

Not willing to vote/lynch either of those players.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:22 am

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If there's a doc out there, I hope they protect me this coming night. :eek:
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:31 am

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DavidParker wrote:I'm in agreement that I don't think we should be lynching SxyBeast based on the "him" slip presented by gapoc earlier, which more or less just leaves Doros or MrBump who I am willing to lynch today. Doros has been far scummier.
That's funny, earlier you were determined not to let what scum said after being caught affect you...
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:40 am

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Because I can't get any definite read on my main suspects. One minute it's SxyBeast, the next minute it' someone else...
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:49 am

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Stefunny wrote:
DavidParker wrote:I'm in agreement that I don't think we should be lynching SxyBeast based on the "him" slip presented by gapoc earlier, which more or less just leaves Doros or MrBump who I am willing to lynch today. Doros has been far scummier.
That's funny, earlier you were determined not to let what scum said after being caught affect you...
I've already explained how this is different.
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:55 am

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Stefunny, are you scum?
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:56 am

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Vittorio Salamdien wrote:Because I can't get any definite read on my main suspects. One minute it's SxyBeast, the next minute it' someone else...
Why do you think that means you need a doc protect? You are being awful vague.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:57 am

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Vittorio Salamdien wrote:Stefunny, are you scum?
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:00 am

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Vittorio Salamdien wrote:Stefunny, are you scum?
No, are you?
Why do you smell funny?
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:03 am

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Stefunny, why did you not vote for Gapoc? I.e. why were you unconvinced that he was scum? And why did you vote for SxyBeast that day?
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:13 am

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Vittorio Salamdien wrote:Stefunny, why did you not vote for Gapoc? I.e. why were you unconvinced that he was scum? And why did you vote for SxyBeast that day?
Because I honestly thought gapoc was just being a ridiculous newb. I saw frustration that I thought was genuine. And I still think SxyBeast is insanely scummy but I think the "him" was also genuine, therefore I no longer think Sxy can be scum.

If you are implying that I voted for Sxy because I didn't want to vote for my scum mate then you are sorely mistaken. Generally scum will jump on the wagon toward the end to try and appear as town as possible, even if it means they end up killing their own scum mate. It's a team win, not individual.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:26 am

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Stefunny wrote:
Vittorio Salamdien wrote:Stefunny, why did you not vote for Gapoc? I.e. why were you unconvinced that he was scum? And why did you vote for SxyBeast that day?
Because I honestly thought gapoc was just being a ridiculous newb. I saw frustration that I thought was genuine. And I still think SxyBeast is insanely scummy but I think the "him" was also genuine, therefore I no longer think Sxy can be scum.

If you are implying that I voted for Sxy because I didn't want to vote for my scum mate then you are sorely mistaken. Generally scum will jump on the wagon toward the end to try and appear as town as possible, even if it means they end up killing their own scum mate. It's a team win, not individual.
A team win for who?
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:28 am

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Everyone. Even if you die as long as your faction wins you get to count it as a win. If Townie A is lynched but town wins game Townie A still gets to claim a win. Same way for Scum. Smart scum know that even if their teammate dies or if they die and team mate lives they can still get a win out of the game.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:13 am

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Sigh, I'd actually be voting Stef if it wasn't for the "him" slip and Doros being so wishy-washy about the whole gender thing. But that has led me to believe Doros is more likely scum, even if I don't find it "scummier" persay.

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