Mafia 126 - Lovers Mafia! [Game Over]

[Espeonage]

Umbridge. I'm planning a case. Don't really want to derail my own wagon though.

[Espeonage]

Only just realised. This game is only 5 days old. Most games with this many people are barely forming wagons by this stage. We still have over two weeks to deadline.

OK, fill out this form:

Two biggest scumpairs:
Two pairs you think need to pick up their post (rate or quality) but you have a town read on:
Two townpairs:

[werewolf555]

how about you fill that out first?
Nice fence sitting.

[GreyICE]

The problem with that is essentially twofold. I'm not arguing for a quicklynch, but if we all come to the conclusion that there's scum, then we can lynch. No one will be NKed.

Second, if we need more time, we just let the deadline slide past and reset all our votes. I suppose after a while the mod might get annoyed and do things like make us look at that godawful avatar more (love ya Sens, but that avatar is shit) but w/e.

So I'm just planning to blithely ignore said deadlines.

[GreyICE]

how about you fill that out first?
Nice fence sitting.

Has anyone noticed that werewolf's sole "contribution" to this game is to attack people who attack umbrage/q21?

[Tragedy]

Town-Pairs

Mariyta & Tragedy

Neutral Pairs

antihero & GreyICE
espeonage & Purple Orange
Haylen & silavor

Neutral & Scummy-At-The-Same-Time Pairs

Nero Cain & xRECKONERx
Thingyman & EmpTyger
implosion & Kise
Baby Spice & Kcdaspot
Llamarble & DarlaBlueEyes

Dramonic & werewolf555

(Leaning more to scum)

Scum Pairs

q21 & Umbrage
SnakePlissken & vezokpiraka

[Umbrage]

Lynch me already. Put me out of my misery.

[silavor]

To those of you who legitimately find Esp/PO and GreyICE/Antihero scummy, can you please post actual cases on them? I've looked through the thread a couple times, but all I've found is people saying they look scummy/are being scummy without actually saying what's scummy. If you honestly think they're scum, I'd like to know why, because I just don't see it.

[Llamarble]

Umbridge. I'm planning a case. Don't really want to derail my own wagon though.

Is this (either half, really) something town ever does?? I always just posted my thoughts and if multiple people are scummy I say so. I know it's something scum does regularly though.
So yeah Espy & Orange are still scum. Also Silva go read my previous case against them.

GreyIce and Anti look town to me.

[dramonic]

Lynch me already. Put me out of my misery.

skimmed, but for future reference, AtE is not a valid response to anything, scum.
Also saying everyone is nuts, based on the fact a very small portion of the population is, says a lot about who REALLY is...

[Espeonage]

@ Llama: ?

I've said I find him scummy. Why make the case when I'm already on a wagon that I am sure is scum. Derailing good wagons is in itself scummy. If I decided to post an umbridge case right now that would be like me saying, "Oh, wait. I have scum here ready to be lynched but nah I'll go make a case on someone else and let that scum that I helped catch live." It just makes no sense. That is why I want those lists. So we can see who thinks who is scummy without them having to back it up witch strong cases. It's not like scum can kill me before I show why they are scum. I have said earlier that IU think Umbridge is scum but that kcd is a better wagon.

@ wolf: You going to do anything productive at all?

But fine.

Two biggest scumpairs:

kcd/BS and umbridge/q21

Two pairs you think need to pick up their post (rate or quality) but you have a town read on:

DBE/Llamarble and implosion/kise

Two townpairs:

mine and probably reck. His recent posts have steered my null to a town.

[xRECKONERx]

What bothers me about Umbrage is that her reaction to all of this makes me think 'town'.

[GreyICE]

What bothers me about Umbrage is that her reaction to all of this makes me think 'town'.

Pitching a temper tantrum in the middle of the thread makes you think town? Just makes me think desperate.

But whatever. Debate for another day. kcdaspot wasn't the better wagon when I posted my case (ya I do those, preemptive stfu issued). Those scumtastic posts he belched into the thread though? Yeaaaahhhhhhh. That changed that one.

[Espeonage]

Grey. That's a rather immature way of looking at it. AtE's are not a scumtell. Sure AtEs come accross as scummy but it all depends on the tone. I've seen them come from both sides and when you have played as many Newbie games as an SE as me (Because then it is less of a teaching role.) you get to pick up the differences between scum and town AtEs. I'll have to have a look back but I'm really getting any points either way from umbridges which doesn't pull him out of a scum read at all though.

[Kise]

I'm not reading 5 pages right now. Tomorrow I'll return. Is it too early for an implosion-prod?

[vezokpiraka]

Why do I keep seeing 5 pages over the night????

I don't like Kdca wagon. I don't know. Something just irks me I see in one page a lot of people sheeping each other and doing exactly what Kdca did all game.

[werewolf555]

how about you fill that out first?
Nice fence sitting.

Has anyone noticed that werewolf's sole "contribution" to this game is to attack people who attack umbrage/q21?

I believe he was trying to tell that to

everybody

nice try scum

[GreyICE]

how about you fill that out first?
Nice fence sitting.

Has anyone noticed that werewolf's sole "contribution" to this game is to attack people who attack umbrage/q21?

I believe he was trying to tell that to

everybody

nice try scum

Oh, it talks! Well... kinda.

Any input on scum reads or anything? Anything you've picked up in your vast insight into the town?

[implosion]

I'm currently reading. slowly.

[Purple Orange]

@ vezok:

Why do I keep seeing 5 pages over the night????

I don't like Kdca wagon. I don't know. Something just irks me I see in one page a lot of people sheeping each other and doing exactly what Kdca did all game.

...and the q21 wagon didn't bother you at all?

In related news, you call q21 scum for some unnamed reason, start the wagon on him, then don't bother to say another word about him, even with the Umbridge-q21-Grey-Anti matter that erupted later. On the other hand, you take time to comment on the Kise/Reck matter, you conclude one of them is lying, and you call Kise scum. Why did you think q21 was scum the first place? What was scummy to you about him that made you leave your vote on him instead of moving it over to Kise?


@ Antihero:

Read Kise's ISO.

I'm convinced of my vote. Reck seems to want to blow it WAY out of proportion. As far as I'm concerned, scummy thing happen IN thread rather out of thread.

Reck is over-perusing baseless and harmless nothings.

That's that.

buddybuddybuddybuddybuddybuddybuddybuddybuddybuddybuddybuddybuddybuddy

Why do you single out kcda in particular for buddying?


@ q21

I quite like reck's Haylen vote...

What did you mean by this? (Sorry the question is vague. I just can't think of a better way to ask it.)


@ Thingyman

wrt q21 & Umbrage: I am by no means clearing them and I will not in any way oppose their lynch, but I am personally thinking that they're perhaps "too scummy to be scum", so I am ignoring them for now.

You say you think Umbridge/q21 are too scummy to be scum - what in particular did you find scummy about them?

^Answer plz?

VOTE: Kcdaspot

Oh, and reason for this one, too.

[Thingyman]

@ PO

The scumminess about q21 has already been outlined by other ppl - and I agree that it looks level 1 scummy. Wrt Umbridge his handling of the Reck vs Kise seems very aggressive and was not in line with the rest of the thread's thoughts at the time - I was / am unsure whether or not a scum would put himself out there like that.

wrt Kcdaspot: I have seen nothing townish from either him or his partner, and that he apparently hasn't been reading the thread very closely doesn't help his case either.

[implosion]

This game is moving really fast, and I'm not that vested in it right now... I don't really want to, but I'm considering replacing out, especially with the whole fighting thing. I doubt I'll be able to do that much in this game considering the pace

and

that it's nightless.

[q21]

Lynch me already. Put me out of my misery.

Thanks for this. *slap*

@ q21

I quite like reck's Haylen vote...

What did you mean by this? (Sorry the question is vague. I just can't think of a better way to ask it.)

I thought that reck's case and vote on Haylen had a shred of validity and given how early it was in the game I felt it was enough to vote on... and I was busy being too disinterested to think for myself at that moment.

Would someone like to go and have a look at what I have been saying all day? kcd's the worst lurker in this game seeing as he is the most active lurker. He is a better lynch than any of the other wagons because they, if they are indeed scum, can actually give us a hand catching members of their rival scumteam.

So your complaining that people aren't reading what you've said, despite the fact that they're voting where you apparently want them to. It feels to me like you're trying to make sure you get credit for this wagon rather than actually catch scum.
Your later unwillingness to make a second case for fear of derailing this wagon is scummy because if you have something valid to say, some information to share you should share it. Make the case and let the town decide which wagon is better.

*Sees BW...*

Well excuse me! I'm sorry i'm wrong. I see CAPSLOCKREAG and I assume someone catching the FATE virus and I skip it.

It's STUPID argument in the first flippin place you going APESHIT over STUPID is god damn scummy.

Wait so you skipped the argument, but your reason for voting is based in that selfsame argument. You know, the one you skipped. That is scummy, so is your reaction to pressure as DBE has stated. Since its been like 200 posts since the last vote count I think I'd like to see another one before I jump on this wagon.

[Mariyta]

^^Scum.

[xRECKONERx]

^^Scum.

Y'know, I was thinking the same thing.