Newbie 1055 (Game over)

[MrBump]

This thread needs moar lynching. Preferably Doros.

[SxyBeast]

The reason I'm voting for you is because you are voting for me.

This is the dumbest and scummiest reason to vote u r definitely at the top of my scum list.

However, we could still work together. I'm asking you to rethink your stance because I think we (and town) are in a vulnerable position. It would be very easy to have me killed next and you afterwards because of the sacrificing thing and with the mafia's two night kills we could be easily down to 3 players. Why make it easy for mafia? Changing your stance will help both our survival (unless we get night kill) and make it less predictable and harder for mafia to win. Just my opinion though.

Anyway, if it helps, I'm unvoting my vote for you.

As DP said, you only care about ur survival. A townie does care about their survival but she cares more about getting mafia and if u think that DP is maf u dont say hey lets work together so we live even though u may be maf. and u especially dont unvote a person just so he will rethink and unvote u. I find it very scummy that u r doing this wen u r close to getting lynched. Also, we r not going to quick lynch DP. this has been stated to u multiple times and yet u seem to not listen.

Gotcha Stefunny!!! I did say in my own way I rather not share my gender before the gapoc slip. The gapoc slip occured in post 319. My first post is post 181 which is 138 posts ahead of gapoc's post!!! The second post is numbered 402 and refers to the earlier post. If anyone is looking for a he/she, you won't find it because I want to be gender neutral. Even though you may not like my reply, the gender question have been answered twice like I said. Stefunny made a false accusation against me and has been proven to be wrong and I'm right!!!

I said the same thing about u and u disregard it. I think ur doing this because ur scum and u vote for the second scummiest person with votes (aka Stefunny
) This is class A scum.

I believe that Doros is at L-2 so im going to vote but not till I get a count because I dont want to be the killing vote

[DavidParker]

I think Doros is L-1 and Stef L-2 from my recent counts. Well not sure if everyone who has expressed willingness to vote for Doros has actually voted it.

[Haylen]

6. Haylen, who's had some health problems to deal with etc, but who then also happened to be pretty absent. What say you, mayor of Lurksville?

The Haylen Answer: It's fine, I'm fine, as I've said before, my activity generally pics up later on in games as I seem to be a lot more useful to the town then. I find it difficult to focus early in games.
The Honest Answer: Please please don't ask me where I have been, I mentioned before that I didn't get into Oxford due to a certain problem. That problems reared its ugly head again and I'm currently pretty depressed. Combine that with stress, it's lowered by immune system and I now have a kidney problem

Sorry for the rant there, I needed to say...something. Anything. I'm not used to showing emotion as of late. I think more people on site need to be aware that the face people use on site may not necessary be how they feel. Before anyone asks, that wasn't an appeal to emotion, if you find my lurking scummy, lynch me for it but you shouldn't lynch somebody based on lurking alone.

Vittorio is fencesitting, btw. He basically called us all suspicious.

FoS Vittorio

gapoc was only a Mafia goon, so why do you seem to assume we are either scenario 1 or 2? You do realize as he is a goon all of those are still options. That is, unless you know there is a roleblocker...

Very nice catch! I was wondering that myself when I was reading it. To me, that equates to a scumslip.

Unvote, Vote Vittorio

Only scum would know at this stage that a roleblocker is active in the game. I do wonder though, why Stefunny didn't vote for him though, despite finding the slip.

Yaaaay! I have taught Doros to multi-post. You have learnt well, my newbie, you have learnt well. I'm actually willing to let Doros see another day, because I'm not certain that all the scumminess people are seeing is because she's actually scum or if she's trying to use the tips I've given to catch scum but is finding it difficult. It would make sense if Doros was scum, because she was scum with another newbie. Hear me out, this is going somewhere. As scum, I tell my newbies to try and blend in with the town and give them tips on appearing townlike, other IC's and SE's do the same. From what I've observed by watching newbie-scum discuss in the confirmation phase, their talk tends to just consist of 'hi. hi. Any idea how we should play this? Just try and hide from the town, don't look suspicious.' Which would explain why Gapoc was playing so badly too, he didn't have an experienced scumbuddy to give him tips. That's why, I think we're looking at a newbie-scum team. This was another reason why I wanted to know everybodies level of experience.

If MrBump posts in caplock-huge font again, I will personally escort him to the lynching post. That kills my eyes so so so much. (colour sensitivity.) Same to Doros for quoting it.

I never heard of OMGUS before and you sure are acting strange and scummy as hell too. Stefunny has made a false accusation. Deal with it.

Now that's a lie right there! Doros, have you read the thread fully?

This is one of those things I only want Doros to comment on.

Voting someone purely because they are voting you is super scummy. Your arguments are pretty awful.

OMGUS is a newbie tell or an overly-emotional player tell, it's not a scumtell. When you look into the fundamentals of OMGUS, it becomes clearer to you. Basically, when you OMGUS someone, you vote/attack them because they attacked you. As scum, this will occur because your emotions have gotten the better of you and you're scared of being lynched, you also know that player suspects you and want him out of the game ASAP - thus you vote the player who voted for you. As a townie, it tends to be caused by anger, because you know that you're town and deep down you believe that everybody else should know you're town aswell - thus to you, anybody who calls you scum is lying about your alignment. Me? If a more experienced player replaces in, you may see this. I've once OMGUS'd a player not for attacking me, but for attacking one of my newbies with personal insults - I was so angry at him that I believed he was scum and tunnelled on him til the end of the game. He actually turned out to be scum. Lesson learnt: Don't fuck with my newbies. The point in me saying that was, OMGUS comes in all different shapes and sizes, you just need to work out if the player who's voting you is angry or scared.

I really do not understand why Stef is currently at L-2, looking through the thread, I couldn't find anything on her that was too much of a concern - in fact, I think pointing out the scumslip was very townie but then not following it up with a vote shows that she's not voting in the same way as would be logical for someone with her evidence.

There is a part two to this post, but i need to be up at 8 and it's 4am now.

[DavidParker]

That wasn't a slip... He explained it in a following post, and I interpreted it the way he explained it when I read it anyways.

Also Haylen,
I am disappoint.

[Vittorio Salamdien]

Stefunny, thanks for the reply. I'll respond soon.

MrBump, take a chill pill.

Doros, lol. Lynch me and eat some silly pie.

I'll be back soon.

UNVOTE: Stefunny

[SxyBeast]

Ok so I firmly believe that Doros is maf and will be voting them at the end of the day, around 6pm eastern standard time to be specific. This is just a warning so that its not a maf quick hammer that came from no where

[Zachrulez]

3rd vote count of day 2:

Doros - 3 (DavidParker, Stefunny, Mr Bump)
Stefunny - 1 (Doros)
Vittorio Salamdien - 1 (Haylen)

Not voting: (SxyBeast, Vittorio Salamdien)

With 7 alive it's 4 to lynch.

Day 2 shall end no later than Tuesday, Feb 22nd at 10:30pm CST.

[Doros]

Voting someone purely because they are voting you is super scummy. Your arguments are pretty awful.

Also, Sxy said exactly the same thing, but you didn't catch her out for not seeing it. Sure it was a way to test, but test what? It was a trick. It wasn't like that caught scum or anything, and you still completely ignored Sxy when she said she couldn't find it.

This is like arguing with a brick wall, I'm sorry, but my points just never ever get through to you. You also keep calling me scummy when I call you out on something >_>

Am I hearing this right? Voting for another person because they voted for you sound pretty normal to me. I thought I answered Sxy question when I made the two post. When you are playing as gender neutral there will never be a guy or gal answer. Instead, you will get an answer like post 181 where I mentioned in my own way I do not prefer to answer the question. You may not like the answer, but the question is answered.

[Doros]

Doros, I asked you to quote the two posts where you answered the question, you gave us post numbers but did not post them, so I'll go ahead and do that for you.

Unvote, Vote: Doros

For his/her last 3 posts.

(P.s. are you a guy or girl?)

There is nothing wrong with my last 3 posts. Didn't you read what Haylen said? She said she had a "serious asthma attack." This is real life not a game! In my other two posts, I was expressing my honest opinion. Duh, why do you want to know if I'm a boy or girl since we are just playing a mafia game? Unless, you are starting to get a crush on me.

DavidParker, are we having fun? Your HUGE case is just a lot of fluff. Duh, I am a newbie and everyone is unique. This is my first game and this is only Day 2 in a Newbie game. Sure I could do better, but I am learning new stuff all the time. I even posted the manipulation thing you did. I will get better over time. Isn't asking questions what newbies are supposed to do? My opinion is I think it is a good idea for us to do is go back and reread what gapoc has said before because he is the only one who actually knows who the other mafia is. The gender issue has already been discussed and is in some previous post. Thank you.

Please if

anyone

disagrees, please tell us, but I don't see an answer in the first post and the second post just points back to the first post. So...

Gotcha Stefunny!!! I did say in my own way I rather not share my gender before the gapoc slip. The gapoc slip occured in post 319. My first post is post 181 which is 138 posts ahead of gapoc's post!!! The second post is numbered 402 and refers to the earlier post. If anyone is looking for a he/she, you won't find it because I want to be gender neutral. Even though you may not like my reply, the gender question have been answered twice like I said. Stefunny made a false accusation against me and has been proven to be wrong and I'm right!!!

Is a bunch of bullcrap.

Plus saying that you don't think DP is town, but asking him to join forces with you to defeat me when there is only ONE scum left doesn't make ANY sense.

Mod

Can we get a vote count please? I believe both Doros and I are at L-1.

Like I said in my previous post, look above. How come no one commented my post was way ahead of gapoc's post? It means I am innocent and what you are saying Stefunny is a bunch of bullcrap!!! I disagree with you about the DP thing and it does make sense. DP and I could suspect one another of being mafia, but it doesn't mean we can't work together to help ourselves and town.

[Doros]

Where the heck is Haylen.

Also, I'm still very confident in scum-Doros. Of course I agreed to the "sacrifice" thing knowing that even if we lynched Doros today and he/she flipped town (lol yea right), I wouldn't be quick lynched tomorrow and would still be able to give more input before my death (if my lynch were to even happen tomorrow)

Doros, voting me because I am voting you is not a legitimate reason. Also, you are stating I should be looking out for my own survival??!?!? I'd rather just look out for whatever helps my team most. You appealing to me to side with you, and possibly vote Stef and leave you alone, makes me think you are only looking out for your own survival, and at this point that's something scum would be looking to do foremost.

Anywyas, a bottle of bel air graves later and I still think Doros is scum. So i'm perfectly happy with my vote.

DavidParker, you will be eating your words soon enough when I'm found to be town. Are you saying you won't keep your word and sacrifice yourself if I am found to be innocent? I disagree. An eye for an eye vote is perfectly normal. Also, there is nothing wrong with looking out for our own survival because you are forgetting we are a part of town like everyone else except for mafia of course. Also, if you are part of town, we would be losing an SE which would be a valuable to the town winning. I am valuable to the town too because I think I could help find the last mafia.

[Doros]

The reason I'm voting for you is because you are voting for me.

This is the dumbest and scummiest reason to vote u r definitely at the top of my scum list.

However, we could still work together. I'm asking you to rethink your stance because I think we (and town) are in a vulnerable position. It would be very easy to have me killed next and you afterwards because of the sacrificing thing and with the mafia's two night kills we could be easily down to 3 players. Why make it easy for mafia? Changing your stance will help both our survival (unless we get night kill) and make it less predictable and harder for mafia to win. Just my opinion though.

Anyway, if it helps, I'm unvoting my vote for you.

As DP said, you only care about ur survival. A townie does care about their survival but she cares more about getting mafia and if u think that DP is maf u dont say hey lets work together so we live even though u may be maf. and u especially dont unvote a person just so he will rethink and unvote u. I find it very scummy that u r doing this wen u r close to getting lynched. Also, we r not going to quick lynch DP. this has been stated to u multiple times and yet u seem to not listen.

Gotcha Stefunny!!! I did say in my own way I rather not share my gender before the gapoc slip. The gapoc slip occured in post 319. My first post is post 181 which is 138 posts ahead of gapoc's post!!! The second post is numbered 402 and refers to the earlier post. If anyone is looking for a he/she, you won't find it because I want to be gender neutral. Even though you may not like my reply, the gender question have been answered twice like I said. Stefunny made a false accusation against me and has been proven to be wrong and I'm right!!!

I said the same thing about u and u disregard it. I think ur doing this because ur scum and u vote for the second scummiest person with votes (aka Stefunny
) This is class A scum.

I believe that Doros is at L-2 so im going to vote but not till I get a count because I dont want to be the killing vote

Like I said before, voting for someone who voted for you before is not dumb. It seems perfectly natural to me. Sxybeast, you are talking to person who brought up the issue about self sacrifice with DP, and you are preaching to me about me doing it just for my own survival, plzzz.... And duh, of course you are not going to quick lynch DP. That is pretty obvious isn't it?! But, he did agree to sacrifice himself if I am found to be innocent. I voted for Stefunny because she made a false accusation and I have proven her to be wrong, not because she is the second scummiest person.

[Doros]

6. Haylen, who's had some health problems to deal with etc, but who then also happened to be pretty absent. What say you, mayor of Lurksville?

The Haylen Answer: It's fine, I'm fine, as I've said before, my activity generally pics up later on in games as I seem to be a lot more useful to the town then. I find it difficult to focus early in games.
The Honest Answer: Please please don't ask me where I have been, I mentioned before that I didn't get into Oxford due to a certain problem. That problems reared its ugly head again and I'm currently pretty depressed. Combine that with stress, it's lowered by immune system and I now have a kidney problem

Sorry for the rant there, I needed to say...something. Anything. I'm not used to showing emotion as of late. I think more people on site need to be aware that the face people use on site may not necessary be how they feel. Before anyone asks, that wasn't an appeal to emotion, if you find my lurking scummy, lynch me for it but you shouldn't lynch somebody based on lurking alone.

Vittorio is fencesitting, btw. He basically called us all suspicious.

FoS Vittorio

gapoc was only a Mafia goon, so why do you seem to assume we are either scenario 1 or 2? You do realize as he is a goon all of those are still options. That is, unless you know there is a roleblocker...

Very nice catch! I was wondering that myself when I was reading it. To me, that equates to a scumslip.

Unvote, Vote Vittorio

Only scum would know at this stage that a roleblocker is active in the game. I do wonder though, why Stefunny didn't vote for him though, despite finding the slip.

Yaaaay! I have taught Doros to multi-post. You have learnt well, my newbie, you have learnt well. I'm actually willing to let Doros see another day, because I'm not certain that all the scumminess people are seeing is because she's actually scum or if she's trying to use the tips I've given to catch scum but is finding it difficult. It would make sense if Doros was scum, because she was scum with another newbie. Hear me out, this is going somewhere. As scum, I tell my newbies to try and blend in with the town and give them tips on appearing townlike, other IC's and SE's do the same. From what I've observed by watching newbie-scum discuss in the confirmation phase, their talk tends to just consist of 'hi. hi. Any idea how we should play this? Just try and hide from the town, don't look suspicious.' Which would explain why Gapoc was playing so badly too, he didn't have an experienced scumbuddy to give him tips. That's why, I think we're looking at a newbie-scum team. This was another reason why I wanted to know everybodies level of experience.

If MrBump posts in caplock-huge font again, I will personally escort him to the lynching post. That kills my eyes so so so much. (colour sensitivity.) Same to Doros for quoting it.

I never heard of OMGUS before and you sure are acting strange and scummy as hell too. Stefunny has made a false accusation. Deal with it.

Now that's a lie right there! Doros, have you read the thread fully?

This is one of those things I only want Doros to comment on.

Voting someone purely because they are voting you is super scummy. Your arguments are pretty awful.

OMGUS is a newbie tell or an overly-emotional player tell, it's not a scumtell. When you look into the fundamentals of OMGUS, it becomes clearer to you. Basically, when you OMGUS someone, you vote/attack them because they attacked you. As scum, this will occur because your emotions have gotten the better of you and you're scared of being lynched, you also know that player suspects you and want him out of the game ASAP - thus you vote the player who voted for you. As a townie, it tends to be caused by anger, because you know that you're town and deep down you believe that everybody else should know you're town aswell - thus to you, anybody who calls you scum is lying about your alignment. Me? If a more experienced player replaces in, you may see this. I've once OMGUS'd a player not for attacking me, but for attacking one of my newbies with personal insults - I was so angry at him that I believed he was scum and tunnelled on him til the end of the game. He actually turned out to be scum. Lesson learnt: Don't fuck with my newbies. The point in me saying that was, OMGUS comes in all different shapes and sizes, you just need to work out if the player who's voting you is angry or scared.

I really do not understand why Stef is currently at L-2, looking through the thread, I couldn't find anything on her that was too much of a concern - in fact, I think pointing out the scumslip was very townie but then not following it up with a vote shows that she's not voting in the same way as would be logical for someone with her evidence.

There is a part two to this post, but i need to be up at 8 and it's 4am now.

I'm glad that you are feeling fine Haylen! However, I do not understand your question. Could you explain it? And thanks for the explanation about OMGUS.

[Doros]

Ok so I firmly believe that Doros is maf and will be voting them at the end of the day, around 6pm eastern standard time to be specific. This is just a warning so that its not a maf quick hammer that came from no where

So, it will be slower hammer SxyBeast?

[Haylen]

I asked if you had read every post properly, to put it basic.

[Vittorio Salamdien]

@Mod

, please note that I have withdrawn my vote for Stefunny.

[Vittorio Salamdien]

I'm catching up on posts, but really, people, to step out of character for a minute: I knew from that very early post - when Doros asked why anyone wanted to know their gender - that they wanted to be gender neutral, or, why, for a game of logic, should gender be important. I was happy to have that answered; the answer satisfied at least my curiosity. It has got nothing to do with their scum/town alignment and they are not avoiding the question. They prefer to have a question mark over their gender. Refusing to answer M or F to that question is also an answer, and it is a principled answer. So just lay off that argument please.

http://www.cafepress.com/+malefemalefuc ... g,37841326

[Doros]

Okay then, I will be dead at 6 PM EST. First off, I'm not mafia and you all will find out soon enough. This is really a bizarre game. Even when you proven yourself to innocent, they either don't believe you or find new reasons to vote for you. It seems like a lot of players play the game with blinders on. Once they made up their mind about you, that is it. I'm going to unvote Stefunny because I don't want leave any bad feelings behind. So:

Unvote Stefunny

My thoughts, about the game.... My top suspect for mafia are MrBump, Stefunny, and DP in that order. When I watch MrBump play the game, it is like watching a con artist. At times, he will twist your words and ideas. At other times, he will be friendly, and other times your enemy like somekind of Jekyll and Hyde character. He is not above pulling a stunt like highlighting the CAPS to manipulate your opinions. Also, just because MrBump say OMGUS, it doesn't make it so. Moreover, MrBump is adverse to self sacrificing which is something mafia would not want to do. Another strange thing is gapoc wished that he goes far in the game. If MrBump had known gapoc was leaving, a lot of the stuff on Day one could have been staged. Vinoth, who could be a smart guy mentioned one of the mafias among gapoc/MrBump. What happens if it turns out to be two mafias? There are other things so he is my number one suspect.

Stefunny is number two because of the false accusation thing. She didn't help when I ask her about scumhunting. She gave her reasons. But it is in mafia's interest not to help the town with any scumhunting tips. Also, at times she is not around. She gave her reasons. When you look at gapoc's suspect list, Stefunny is the least suspected person. It makes one wonder where gapoc would put his scum partner?! Also, Stefunny seems to be not above lying or backtracking on things like the war thing with DP.

Number three is DavidParker because he has shown an ability to manipulate people like the missing part of Haylen's questions and in calling Vittorio a townie. Didn't he said he used the same thing in some of his earlier games? It is in mafia's job description to get innocent lynched and he has been trying hard to get rid of me since the beginning. On the plus side, he was willing to self sacrifice unlike the coward MrBump is. But on the other hand, it could just be that he is putting on an act and just knows what to say.

Anyways, I still had fun! Thanks for all the help Haylen!!! And of best of luck to the town!!!

[Doros]

I asked if you had read every post properly, to put it basic.

I guess I didn't because I don't remember OMGUS.

[Haylen]

Haylens Mafia Glossary

L-1, L-2, L-3: This refers to how many votes on a person until they are lynched. For example, if I had 3 votes and Michel had 4 votes, because it is 5 votes to lynch, I would be at L-2 and Michel would be at L-1.

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Lylo: Means lynch or lose. During lylo if the town doesn't lynch a mafia member, then they have automatically lost. Typical lylo situations are 2 townies and 1 scum or 3 townies and 2 scum. If the number of mafia is equal to the number of town at any time, then the mafia have won.

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Mylo: Mislynch and lose: This is actually a more difficult one to explain. Mylo is where the only thing the town can do safely is to no lynch. You should only ever lynch in a mylo situation when a cop has gotten a guilty on another player. Examples of mylo situations are when there are 3 town and 1 mafia or 6 town and 2 mafia. If the town mislynches during mylo then it is an automatic mafia victory, UNLESS the town get lucky and the have a doc in the game that targets the same person the mafia want to kill.

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OMGUS: Stands for 'Oh my gosh, you suck'. It's a type of vote where the voter only votes for who they voted for because they had voted for them first. I tend to stretch the term to people who attack other people because they attacked them first. Everybody suffers from a bit of OMGUS Syndrome, we can't really help but feel the person who is voting for us is scum. A lot of people find this type of votes scummy, but I don't believe they are.

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WIFOM: Wine in front of me, it's basically circular logic. An example of WIFOM would be me telling you lot to go and look at my previous games because I never play like this as town. WIFOM or Circular logic arguments don't hold very much credibility in games.

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FoS: Finger of Suspicion, you can give people one of these in place of a vote if you don't find them scummy enough to vote them but you still find them suspicious. A more suspicious person would warrant a HoS or Hand of Suspicion.

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IGMEOY: I've got my eye on you, generally means they don't find the person scummy but they are going to watch them carefully in the future to make sure they don't do anything scummy then.

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Hammer: The word for the last vote on a player that causes a lynch. Today that would be the 5th vote.

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QFT: Quote for truth. If you want to be lazy and not type something out yourself and someone else has already written it, just quote their post and type 'QFT' under it.

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EBWOP: Edit By Way of Post. Quoting your previous post and changing it because you made a coding error or something.

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RVS: The Random Voting Stage. That's what we're doing now! It's an icebreaker, votes during this stage arent serious.

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Appeal to Emotion: When a player says or does something in order to play with the other players emotions in order to not be lynched. An example: 'If you lynch me, the town will lose.' Scumminess on this varies from player to player.

I posted this at the beginning of the game.

You should probably claim, btw. Since you're being threatened with a hammer.

[Vittorio Salamdien]

6. Haylen, who's had some health problems to deal with etc, but who then also happened to be pretty absent. What say you, mayor of Lurksville?

The Haylen Answer: It's fine, I'm fine, as I've said before, my activity generally pics up later on in games as I seem to be a lot more useful to the town then. I find it difficult to focus early in games.
The Honest Answer: Please please don't ask me where I have been, I mentioned before that I didn't get into Oxford due to a certain problem. That problems reared its ugly head again and I'm currently pretty depressed. Combine that with stress, it's lowered by immune system and I now have a kidney problem

Sorry for the rant there, I needed to say...something. Anything. I'm not used to showing emotion as of late. I think more people on site need to be aware that the face people use on site may not necessary be how they feel. Before anyone asks, that wasn't an appeal to emotion, if you find my lurking scummy, lynch me for it but you shouldn't lynch somebody based on lurking alone.

Vittorio is fencesitting, btw. He basically called us all suspicious.

FoS Vittorio

gapoc was only a Mafia goon, so why do you seem to assume we are either scenario 1 or 2? You do realize as he is a goon all of those are still options. That is, unless you know there is a roleblocker...

Very nice catch! I was wondering that myself when I was reading it. To me, that equates to a scumslip.

Unvote, Vote Vittorio

Only scum would know at this stage that a roleblocker is active in the game. I do wonder though, why Stefunny didn't vote for him though, despite finding the slip.

Yaaaay! I have taught Doros to multi-post. You have learnt well, my newbie, you have learnt well. I'm actually willing to let Doros see another day, because I'm not certain that all the scumminess people are seeing is because she's actually scum or if she's trying to use the tips I've given to catch scum but is finding it difficult. It would make sense if Doros was scum, because she was scum with another newbie. Hear me out, this is going somewhere. As scum, I tell my newbies to try and blend in with the town and give them tips on appearing townlike, other IC's and SE's do the same. From what I've observed by watching newbie-scum discuss in the confirmation phase, their talk tends to just consist of 'hi. hi. Any idea how we should play this? Just try and hide from the town, don't look suspicious.' Which would explain why Gapoc was playing so badly too, he didn't have an experienced scumbuddy to give him tips. That's why, I think we're looking at a newbie-scum team. This was another reason why I wanted to know everybodies level of experience.

If MrBump posts in caplock-huge font again, I will personally escort him to the lynching post. That kills my eyes so so so much. (colour sensitivity.) Same to Doros for quoting it.

I never heard of OMGUS before and you sure are acting strange and scummy as hell too. Stefunny has made a false accusation. Deal with it.

Now that's a lie right there! Doros, have you read the thread fully?

This is one of those things I only want Doros to comment on.

Voting someone purely because they are voting you is super scummy. Your arguments are pretty awful.

OMGUS is a newbie tell or an overly-emotional player tell, it's not a scumtell. When you look into the fundamentals of OMGUS, it becomes clearer to you. Basically, when you OMGUS someone, you vote/attack them because they attacked you. As scum, this will occur because your emotions have gotten the better of you and you're scared of being lynched, you also know that player suspects you and want him out of the game ASAP - thus you vote the player who voted for you. As a townie, it tends to be caused by anger, because you know that you're town and deep down you believe that everybody else should know you're town aswell - thus to you, anybody who calls you scum is lying about your alignment. Me? If a more experienced player replaces in, you may see this. I've once OMGUS'd a player not for attacking me, but for attacking one of my newbies with personal insults - I was so angry at him that I believed he was scum and tunnelled on him til the end of the game. He actually turned out to be scum. Lesson learnt: Don't fuck with my newbies. The point in me saying that was, OMGUS comes in all different shapes and sizes, you just need to work out if the player who's voting you is angry or scared.

I really do not understand why Stef is currently at L-2, looking through the thread, I couldn't find anything on her that was too much of a concern - in fact, I think pointing out the scumslip was very townie but then not following it up with a vote shows that she's not voting in the same way as would be logical for someone with her evidence.

There is a part two to this post, but i need to be up at 8 and it's 4am now.

LOL @fencesitting. Haylen dear, lynch me and have a whole big SILLYPIE all to yourself. You know I'm town.

I am careful. Many people are all of a sudden producing convincing arguments. But it is difficult to sift through the ego bluster and find people's agendas. My vote was on Stefunny, but her response then convinced me otherwise. Her post showed that we were finally talking to each other - we are talking the same language, towntalk. So don't try anything funny. You are in my sights.

[Haylen]

too depressed to reply right now.

[Vittorio Salamdien]

@ Stefunny, I had asked you, in response to a previous post of yours: "A team win for who?" and thsi was your answer:

Everyone. Even if you die as long as your faction wins you get to count it as a win. If Townie A is lynched but town wins game Townie A still gets to claim a win. Same way for Scum. Smart scum know that even if their teammate dies or if they die and team mate lives they can still get a win out of the game.

And then I said I was hoping you wouldn't answer as an SE.

[Vittorio Salamdien]

@Stefunny: Sorry, here is the post link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 5#p2777485

I encourage others to look at those posts and see and sniff.

[Vittorio Salamdien]

It's times like these I hate I can't PM people about the game or anything >_>

I hope I am hearing you right.