Cold War Mafia - GAME OVER!!

[Sotty7]

Day I, Vote Count XVIII

Amrun - 7 -

XScorpion, Beasts of the Sea, Stephoscope, ThAdmiral, mothrax, Scott Brosius, Lowell

ThAdmiral - 9 -

Nachomamma8, EGL, LynchMePls, LlamaFluff, GhostWriter, Amrun, Feysal, bvoigt, smargaret

mothrax - 2 -

gonnano, RedCoyote

gonnano - 1-

DavidParker

EGL - 1 -

Furcolow

Not Voting - 4 -

Fuzzyman, Sathoris, InflatablePie, Artem

With twenty-four of you alive thirteen votes will lynch. The day will end on Sunday February 20th at 9am GMT.

XScorpion has been prodded.

Fuzzyman is being replaced

[Amrun]

I just realized Xscorp will have an aneurysm and keep his vote on me anyway. Haha.

[XScorpion]

...what
the
fuck
just happened?

I think most likely is town (US), Soviet (mafia),

No. Wrong answer. This is not the setup. Die scum die.

[LimMePls]

I already govenored him so its all good. When I said we needed a lynch I ment a good lynch, not a stupid mislynch.

WIN!

[LimMePls]

I was already voting Amrun...maybe she realized that it was an actual hammer, but the reaction feels sincere to me.

UNVOTE: Amrun
VOTE: ThAdmiral

This time, the vote is staying here for good.

bvoigt's unannounced hammer plus this shit makes me wonder if ThAd is a mislynch too. gonanno's switch to Amrun was scummy as hell too.

[LimMePls]

A few more pages down.

I do have a question for you though - if Thad flips town, then what's your opinion on gonnano? Isn't it still possible he's scum?

Of course its still possible.

I typically don't like discussing hypothetical situations based on unflipped people, but this response got me interested. Of course anything is possible, but do you think it is likely?

The question was whether it was possible or not. Do I think it's likely? Yes, gonanno has been playing pretty scummy. Would I have said yes when the question was originally asked? Not as sure, I don't remember.

[LimMePls]

I will reitterate that regardless of flip gonnao needs a bullet. Not an investigation, not someone to keep an eye on him a bullet.

++

[Feysal]

Only now I see that bvoigt did not really hammer. That's the second time I've seen that move, and again I did not spot it.

We have two more suggestions brought forward, EGL and gonnano. I haven't looked closely at either one yet, but I will. EGL is the best case Furcolow has made this game, and though that is not saying much, it does not look half bad.

JOHN F KENNEDY IS NO SCUM YOU BASTARD

I did not say he was, I was only making a point about flavor being unreliable until we see a few flips.

This really reads as scum knowing that Amrun is scum and trying to get town points for it. "That was a close one...." really rubs me the wrong way.

I've heard comments like this every time I've defended someone. In Mafia Holographica it resulted in a townie tunneling on me for the entire game, and we lost.

You rarely see scum admit to being scum, even in twilight. Feysal's post reads as more certainty than a town member should have in my opinion.

I was already confident in Amrun being town before her reaction to being "hammered", that was why I was defending her in the first place. Think whatever you like, I was getting a strong newbie town read.

I dislike Feysal's silly wrathful pushing, and his wanting me silenced. I have freedom of speech. If my vote is taken away, it will only make me louder.

I keep pushing you because I believe you are scum. If I can't get you lynched, I'd prefer to have you silenced more than anyone else, since your voting record is worse than anyone else's. Your vote on Artem was beyond bad. I would not be sorry at all if you were prevented from making more of such votes.

There is no way we can be burning Fahrenheit 451, Guy Montag.

This is the second time I've seen you refer to that book. Why?

We really should test the governor claim by getting 12 votes on Amrun before anything else.

Why is this necessary to do now? We can test that claim any time on some useless lurker.

No. Wrong answer. This is not the setup. Die scum die.

Town can be defined as the uninformed majority, key word being uninformed. Why would being wrong about the setup be a scumtell?

[XScorpion]

Because it's pretty obvious to me that country does not have any impact on what faction you are.
And if I'm wrong and it does, then obviously he should die.

[XScorpion]

In fact it seems like he is being McCarthy by suggesting that the soviets are enemies. In which case he is not trying to keep the peace. So he should die.

[Feysal]

Because it's pretty obvious to me that country does not have any impact on what faction you are.
And if I'm wrong and it does, then obviously he should die.

Obvious to you perhaps, not to her. If she was US and town, how should she know what other nationalities the town consists of? How should she know what nationalities the threats to the peace consist of? She had less information to work with than the non-US townies, and her theory was plausible given what she knew. On the other hand, if you were someone like Charles de Gaulle or Josip Broz Tito, you would of course know that the setup was not US versus Soviets, and you would not be jumping to a conclusion that the game was French versus Yugoslavians either.

[DavidParker]

I will reitterate that regardless of flip gonnao needs a bullet. Not an investigation, not someone to keep an eye on him a bullet.

++

HOW BOUT WE LYNCH HIM TODAY? GOOD PLAN? YES!

[Amrun]

Notice the horrible misrep in post 827. Not only did he take the quote out of context, where I went on to say the wincon conflicts that, but he snipped half of the sentence out where I mentioned third parties. It's obvious with how it ends in another comma.

Bad, scum. Bad.

Xscorp reaction just as predicted.

For the record, Furc has now claimed a non-US townie. Before that discussion took place, no one had done so.

[DavidParker]

Someone claimed a non-us townie already. They claimed to be non-soviet AND non-USA I believe.

[Amrun]

Fuzzyman said that, but he did not say he was a townie, and that's the ONLY thing he has EVER posted.

But the point of my post was to show why PI might have thought US vs. Soviets in game beginning, since it's freaking McCarthy and he's town.

[smargaret]

I am town-aligned. I am from a capitalist country that is not the US.

The setup is not US v Soviets, and there is no way that someone as vociferously anti-Communist as McCarthy is town.

[Amrun]

You don't believe me, so why should I believe you?

I didn't choose to be McCarthy as town. I just AM McCarthy as town.

Maybe it's capitalist vs. communist, then? Hmm.

[Lowell]

I am town-aligned. I am from a capitalist country that is not the US.

The setup is not US v Soviets, and there is no way that someone as vociferously anti-Communist as McCarthy is town.

Agreed. Especially someone who allegedly can't read a role PM.

[smargaret]

Not if you believe Furc's claim, like I do. Capitalist v. Communist also doesn't align with threats to peace.

[Amrun]

Yeah, you're right about threats to the peace. I don't know, then.

But for the last time, I'm done arguing about this. Either choose to believe me or not. I can't change my role and I'm not going to bend over backwards to convince everyone of something that I have no more power to influence. I've told you what I know. The end.

[DavidParker]

Threats to peace imply there are capitalist and communist town. (And likely capitalist and communist scum, who are probably not on the same scum faction).

The amount of WIFOM going on with Amrun's claim is irritating.

[smargaret]

Oh, I'm not trying to convince you. I'm trying to convince someone with a spare vig shot laying around.

[DavidParker]

@smarge: You realize amrun was governor'd. (apparently, hasn't been proven yet). So he can't be the lynch for today it seems.

For now, let's just test the governor theory.

Unvote, Vote: Amrun

[DavidParker]

Preview edit: MMKAY.

[Sathoris]

Feeling a lot better now and I've got time to catch up a bit. I'll place my vote on the wagon I agree with the most and hopefully get a grip on the game once day 2 begins.