I have things to say about other posts, but responding to this one is going to take all the time I have today.
Set wrote:
In his first post, he casts suspicion on WMC for what seemed pretty obviously a joke when I read it
I make an active effort to push the game out of useless RVS in to meaningful discussion nearly every game, as both town and scum. This is a totally null point.
Set wrote:
This is where Weapons posts that the contradiction was a trap he set. This makes no sense at all - first where it seemed like a joke and second with the timing of how everything went down. Why would he say that we'd all missed something like he did (which is also more likely if it was a joke we missed) - and why draw attention to it like this if it was a trap? His timing for saying it was a trap is off, too. He's under pressure, being wagoned and this seems more like a desperate measure.
If you'll read my posts carefully, you'll notice that we're actually in some agreement here. This is the point where I really started to feel like he was scummy, not before. I thought what he did was odd, and that was the best lead I had for page 2, but this was where I actually had my first scum vibes.
Set wrote:
Ice then posts calling out mongoose for voting weapons without giving reason and then gives implosion a free pass for posting a scum list with no reasoning. Instead he focuses on asking why nameless was listed as scummy.
I gave him a free pass? I thought the list he provided was scummy, and presented reasons why. You're seriously misrepresenting what happened here.
Set wrote:
He also says he agrees with what neko is saying so he doesn't find him scummy. Since when is someone not scum because they agree with you? This free pass is very suspicious.
I liked neko's reasoning and (to an extent) felt like he was scum hunting. If i find myself nodding along with what people are saying, that gives me a town read on people. It makes me feel like we're thinking on the same track.
I admit that I found Saint increasingly suspicious as time went on. His initial replacement in was alright (albeit annoying), but the quality of his posts really started to drop off. Also, others pointed things out that I hadn't spent enough time considering (such as his SK accusation), which impacted my point of view.
Set wrote:
So then ice says there's a connection between implosion and saint (he doesn't say what the connection is of course – just sets up a future lynch of saint if implosion flips scum. Or vice versa. Check and check.)
Did you even read my vote post of implosion? If that isn't connection to over9000 then I don't know what is. I thought it was so blatantly obvious that I didn't have to repeat myself with what the connection was.
Set wrote:
Nice that you can safely be on both leading wagons too!
Funny that you accuse me of being able to safely be on both leading wagons when I made a very strong case against implosion that no one else had even noticed, and have been suspicious of Saint's slot the entire game. Sure you can put your own spin on things, but a quick read of my ISO should clearly show that I'm not setting up any lynches. These are my suspicions, and I've explained clearly why.
You've got some fairly good scum hunting in there, but you really haven't presented any reasoning for me being scum.
The specific defense that implosion gave I believe was, "Your quotes are out of context. Also, misrep." At the time of me voting I had not, in fact, looked back at where the quotes were. (actually I still havn't, I should go do that soon.)
