Cyclic Experimentation Set x01 - [Game Over]

[I Am Innocent]

I never had void collector

StrangerCoug, who did you pass the void collector too.

Also @ StrangerCoug, you say you did not recover the dayvig, but it still passed on?

I would like the holder of the Void Collector from D4 to come forward and look at the rules and see if you buy that explanation? From the instruction I got, I had to say to recover the Hibernate Ability, even though it was the only one in the void...

[I Am Innocent]

Also pops is not confirmed.

CKD died with the Neighbor Ability.

Pops must have passed it to him.

How could he pass it to his teammate?

[WrathChild]

Removed from the Game

Ability Redirector

(

TMH

->

Diddin

->RFG N2)

Doctor

(

DBE

->

Parama

->RFG D2)

Ability Remover

(

CHK

->RFG N1)

Double Voter

(

Powerox

-> RFG D1)

Watcher

(

muh

-> RFG Day 1)

Neighborizer

(

q21

->

implosion

->

Pops

->

CKD

-> RFG D4)

Treestump

(

Implosion

->

Curiouskarmadog

->

I Am Innocent

->

q21

-> RFG N4)

Claimed Abilities not RFG

Day Vig

(

diddin

->

themanhimself

(stole the ability) -> StrangerCoug -> WC -> ???)

Void Collector

((nobody D1) ->

I Am Innocent

-> StrangerCoug ->

IAI

-> ???)

Hibernate

(

quadz08

->

MOI

/Void/Collected by

I Am Innocent

->

Implosion

->??? -> ???)

Tracker

(nhammen (CHK) ->

Implosion

(SC)->

I Am Innocent

(Bunny) -> nhammen (DGB) -> ???)

Roleblock

(

Saint

(DBE) ->

q21

->

Implosion

(NC) ->

IAI

(Q21) -> ???)

Purge

(DrippingGoofball)

Ability Cop

(bunny -> nhammen ->

Saint

-> ??? -> ???)

Re-Initialize

(

Pops

-> DGB -> LMP ->

IAI

-> ???)

Duh on the pops thing, someone conuddled me.

[Saint]

How many people are usually scum in a game this size?
Also, we should have a lot of confirmed townies by now correct?

Six, and yes.

I'm not inclined to believe anything DrippingGoofball says anymore as she is my SK suspect. As for LynchMePls, I can see his case on you and I'm currently deciding how to go about this. Saint is my only strong read other than her.

ITT StrangerCoug claims scum. No hunting Yesterday, not even a master of the obvious Today.
Plus I find the idea of passing an ability (Void Collector) to the same person who gave it to him to be suspect.

Roleblocker - Used on q21.

I bet I know where the "shotgunned" kill went.

tbh the failed kill on implosion broke the game.

...what?
(Cut by LMP saying the same thing)

---

Saint did not have a role D4.
Saint passed to LynchMePls N3.

With pops clear via Neighborizer I see no reason to vote anyone other than Coug or Goofball Today. Since they're both one-person killing elements the order doesn't matter, although Goofball is obviously a more sure shot than Coug.

There's really nothing to gain via massclaim except who was passed to N4.
Since there should be no more connections to be had between living scum, I don't see a positive.

[StrangerCoug]

I would like to hear everyone's opinion on these new most new and dangerous ideas before I offer any sort of defense, actually.

I'm not inclined to believe anything DrippingGoofball says anymore as she is my SK suspect. As for LynchMePls, I can see his case on you and I'm currently deciding how to go about this. Saint is my only strong read other than her.

I will have to look back at the chart, but I think q21/Saint had a handoff which should confirm Saint.

Roleblock

(Saint (DBE) ->

q21

->

Implosion

(NC) -> ??? -> ???)

So much for that then.

I never had void collector

StrangerCoug, who did you pass the void collector too.

You.

Also @ StrangerCoug, you say you did not recover the dayvig, but it still passed on?

That is correct.

[Saint]

I just caught frostbite from Coug's cold shoulder.

[I Am Innocent]

StrangerCoug, who did you pass the void collector too.

You.

^ 1000000

[I Am Innocent]

How many people are usually scum in a game this size?
Also, we should have a lot of confirmed townies by now correct?

Six, and yes.

Six + SK or Six Including SK?

[StrangerCoug]

ITT StrangerCoug claims scum. No hunting Yesterday, not even a master of the obvious Today.

I am not going to remember six million passes. What I am going to do is pay more attention to who's scummy than who passed to whom.

Plus I find the idea of passing an ability (Void Collector) to the same person who gave it to him to be suspect.

I'm looking for townie players to give roles to, and I Am Innocent was the best idea I could come up with.

[Saint]

How many people are usually scum in a game this size?
Also, we should have a lot of confirmed townies by now correct?

Six, and yes.

Six + SK or Six Including SK?

Including. (6/24 = 1/4) There should be one Daevori left...
Plus with the influx of Town reads there's really not much room for anyone other than Coug to be Daevori; the distant next one down on my scumlist is Bunnylover.

It certainly wouldn't hurt to prepare like I'm wrong on this (like almost everything else) though.

Cut by Coug being so nice as to say something when someone presses him twice.~

[I Am Innocent]

My Top 3 now that you and Pops are confirmed non Daevori is

DGB - SK
Bunny
StrangerCoug

I said D4 I did not want to talk about what to do with DGB, mostly because I wanted him to kill q21. Now that he went through with it, I think it is time to dispose of him.

If we vote out DGB and he dies, I think we track and roleblock the two players above.

[Saint]

If we vote out DGB and he dies,

I think we track and roleblock the two players above.

What if we vote out Goofball and she doesn't die?

Comic relief aside, just tell me what you want me to do.

[Bunnylover]

We have 4 confirmed townies.
That leaves these people who can still be scum:

NQ3203491 - LynchMePls [Online.]
MS1775305 - DrippingGoofball [Lateralus22][TheLonging] [Online.]
OB9504836 - WrathChild [Online.]
IO2398419 - Bunnylover [SnakePlissken][danGR] [Online.]
CT2384721 - StrangerCoug [UnofficialRulerOfEveryone] [Online.]
EU3248724 - nhammen [EtherealCookie] [Online.]

Eliminating the people who I believe are town (or know in my case):
MS1775305 - DrippingGoofball [Lateralus22][TheLonging] [Online.]
OB9504836 - WrathChild [Online.]
CT2384721 - StrangerCoug [UnofficialRulerOfEveryone] [Online.]

Based on MoI plan:
I had no abilities last night, nor did I receive any abilities.
Frankly, I am in a support of a DGB lynched.

[implosion]

I'm sorry, I'm really tired right now. What's the current claims plan (i.e. claim what and in what order)? I'll make a goodpost tomorrow hopefully.

[DrippingGoofball]

@DGB: Are you still claiming you didn't have the purge ability the night NC died?

I am the new generation. I make the program evolve.

The purge is always mine.

When I purge a player, or when I hammer a player (does this become clearer now?), I get to scan them for abilities. I can shelf their abilities, or I can re-circulate them.

I got the Ability Remover shelved, because it shouldn't fall into the hands of scum.

I got the Tree Stump shelved. It is no longer a threat. The Tree Stump is in my possession, yet it does not affect me.

Let me prove it, showing that I do have a vote:

VOTE: Pops

Now, it should be abundantly clear that I have been gunning for scum, and scum alone.

If I were a SK, I'd be gunning down townies that are likely to have abilities and I would have removed them from play. I also would not have attracted attention with repeated hammers (WIFOM, I know), on players that weren't supposed to have any abilities. I have only removed abilities that were a detriment to the town.

I am NOT NK-immune. The remaining scum will kill me tonight. I am their #1 enemy. I purged two of them from vote analysis alone, and hammered two that were wagoned by the rest of the town.

I think if we lynch pops, we will win the game right there and then.

If we don't, I will be NK'd.

The shelved abilities return to play when I die in a different way depending on whether I am killed during the day phase, or during the night phase.

Letting me die in the night phase would be best.

I suspect pops will fight this one tooth and nail, because his lynch is probably the end of the road for the Daevori

[DrippingGoofball]

Also pops is not confirmed.

CKD died with the Neighbor Ability.

Pops must have passed it to him.

How could he pass it to his teammate?

Oh wait

That true?

[popsofctown]

tbh the failed kill on implosion broke the game.

...what?
(Cut by LMP saying the same thing)

well i thought if implosion died i wouldn't have become confirmed town, because i never claimed what kind of ability I had so conceivably the scums could convince everyone that I passed some non-neighborizer ability to some townie and that they passed neighborizer to ckd.

But looking at the chart again actually it looks like neighborizer was the only unidentified role left in the game, seaux....



@IAI: I think LMP might have meant a massclaim of the abilities we're HOLDING, so we can confirm more townies at the expense of losing some PRs. I'd rather get some info on the third faction by lynching DGB though, so we can make sure confirmed innocents are actually confirmed to be innocent.

[DrippingGoofball]

Eliminating the people who I believe are town (or know in my case):

Frankly, I am in a support of a DGB lynched.

hehe

[popsofctown]

Rofl. Yeah, sorry DGB, confirmed townies need neither their teeth nor their nails to fight their lynch. mulling over your claim atm.

[DrippingGoofball]

Rofl. Yeah, sorry DGB, confirmed townies need neither their teeth nor their nails to fight their lynch. mulling over your claim atm.

Please accept my sincerest apologies, roses, and box of bonbons.

[popsofctown]

Vote: DrippingGoofball

Lateralus22 voted 9th out of 12 on the powerrox lynch, even though the climate would have easily allowed for him to hammer if he'd liked to.


Sometimes you don't have an eternity to spare, eh?

[DrippingGoofball]

Lateralus was a wimp.

[popsofctown]

brave enough to be on the lynch but not brave enough to hammer so he could use his power role's built in mechanic?

Tough sell.

[LimMePls]

IF YOU ARE VOTING RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY DOING IT WRONG AND BEING ANTI-TOWN. SO KNOCK IT OFF.

We have no deadline pressure and we have a veritable SHIT TON of minable data.

@IAI: I think LMP might have meant a massclaim of the abilities we're HOLDING, so we can confirm more townies at the expense of losing some PRs. I'd rather get some info on the third faction by lynching DGB though, so we can make sure confirmed innocents are actually confirmed to be innocent.

Mostly this. We have a set of confirmed towns and a set of unconfirmed towns. If we mass claim all abilities, we can orchestrate the usage and passing of all the abilities in the game in such a way that we are guaranteed a town win. At least, that's my theory.

But I actually have another idea I've been brewing where we massclaim, but in a controlled way:

We have all the NON-CONFIRMEDS do full claims, including their abilities. Then the CONFIRMED players discuss the targetting AND passing of those abilities. Ideally we force NON-CONFIRMEDS to pass to NON-CONFIRMEDS. In this way we create more links between the NON-CONFIRMEDS so that when we do lynch a scum, if the game doesn't end we should generate more CONFIRMEDS. We then proceed to lynch from the pool of NON-CONFIRMEDS until we hit the final scum.

Of course the downside to the massclaiming (or even the "semi" mass claim) is we're going to be conceding a kill to the scum every night, whereas right now they don't know who the best target is (due to protective abilities).

Also, I think DGB is the only proper lynch at this point. The fewer kills in this game state the better, and there is the incredibly likely chance that she is SK anyways.

TL;DR
What I'm saying is that I think with a mass claim by the NON-CONFIRMEDS plus some optimal strategy we can game this setup from this point to an auto win.

[Bunnylover]

Well other then the first night/day, I was never in possession of any powers.
First Day/Night I had the ability cop power which I passed to EC/Nhammen