Scummies 2011 Nominations

[AGar]

^ I don't really know about that, I can't say I've ever seen that many players 'give up'

I like Magna's performance and all, but don't really like the losing cause award.

I've "given up" and won twice as scum. It wasn't playing against the win con so much as we had no clue we could win at all.

[quadz08]

For 2011:

Nom

Mastin

for

Best Contribution to MD/Wiki

for this.

Maybe premature as the thread hasn't really gotten a lot of replies yet. But it's already a great start towards changing sitewide cop-playing meta for the better.

2nd Mastin

. That was a brand new way to look at the cop role, and it really makes a lot of sense. I'd never thought of it that way, and it'd never been presented to me that way, either.

[Mr. Flay]

I wouldn't say Mastin's post was all that revolutionary, considering how many responses were "well, yeah."

[MagnaofIllusion]

I wouldn't say Mastin's post was all that revolutionary, considering how many responses were "well, yeah."

While I agree the information isn't groundbreaking it is one of the better written and presented thread that has been posted in MD lately from a game theory standpoint. And I know any number of players who would do well to read it and digest the contents.

Nth Mastin

[Ythan]

That was a brand new way to look at the cop role

No.

[GreyICE]

The Town of Blackest Night Mafia

for

Best Performance Pro Town Team

- Successfully lynched scum players for five straight Days (Days 1 to 5) and vigged two more scum players. The Town completely destroyed the known original 9 scum roles by the Dawn of Day 6 and lost a 5 player endgame due to a Cult that was unknown at game's start.

1) Doesn't Town have to -win- to be considered?
2) With as many power roles flying around as there were, one would hope they COULD do this.

I read that game, town did win. Cults are flaming bullshit and that's one of the reasons why. Setup was absurdly unbalanced. I mean among other things, you don't declare it a semi-open setup with known alignments then fail to mention that there's an OMG extra alignment that was outside the setup...

Serial killers you can at least detect. Cults run screening - you never know they exist, and all the best players are always part of them, meaning that by day 3/4, the cult leader is virtually unlynchable, and due to being "non-noticeable town" (while the cult members are being real townie and running screening) he's damn near immune to the NK.

If EVERYONE goes cult hunting from day 1, you have a shot.

[Ythan]

You do if you're a bastard.

[gandalf5166]

Not to mention, in this case, the cult leader actually WAS bulletproof.

[Fate]

Town didn't do much except Lynch scum D1 and then let the nightactions+set-up speculation roll the rest of the scumteam.

I was on that town team and I un-nom it.

[Faraday]

I read that game, town did win.

But not really.

[Benmage]

itt noobs nominating noobs

[gandalf5166]

FIRST REAL POST

[The Fonz]

Serial killers you can at least detect. Cults run screening - you never know they exist, and all the best players are always part of them, meaning that by day 3/4, the cult leader is virtually unlynchable, and due to being "non-noticeable town" (while the cult members are being real townie and running screening) he's damn near immune to the NK.

If EVERYONE goes cult hunting from day 1, you have a shot.

The existence of town anti-cult roles can help. Steadfast townies (can't be culted) cult hunters, etc.

[GreyICE]

Anyway, my first nomination:

Parama's Multiple Personality Mafia

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15977

Nominate: Best Pro-Town Performance
Nominate: Most Enjoyable Game

Nominate: (New Category) Most enjoyable poster: Fate

I think this about summarizes what happened:
(20 players, 5 scum 15 town, all scum same team)

Day 1:
Town vig

Scum Lynch

No NK
Day 2:

Scum Vig
Scum Lynch

Town death
Day 3:
Town lynch (scum lynch was governored)

Scum Vigged

Town death

Yep. That's right, by day 4, there was 1 scum left.

None of this was due to information from power roles. Just the best team of scumhunters I've ever played with. Even when the game was stalled, the thread maintained a sanity level somewhere on the order of ridiculously nuts.

Also, seriously read Fate's contributions to the game. They were fucking excellent, and I don't hand that praise out lightly. He fit flavorful writing and poetry into absolutely evil levels of observational power. He kept the scumteam constantly off guard, while we all enjoyed his posts (I don't think a single person wasn't saying "what will Fate post next?").

The last two scumteam members might deserve "best fight in support of a loosing cause" just for the effort they were putting into the day 4 plans when it was obvious where they were. Llamarble didn't go down without a fight, posting an incredible pro-town post after being informed he was vigged in case it was (another) gambit, and Magua replaced into a slot that was unsalvagable, and not only didn't whine about his predecessors, but did his damnedest to come off as town.

P.S.

Read Fate's contributions

If you don't, you have NO IDEA what you are missing.

[DemonHybrid]

Nominate: (New Category) Most enjoyable poster: Fate

Oh my god.

Absolutely not.



On the topic of new categories, whoever said they were in support of a Best Effort in a Losing Cause award, I'm in total agreement.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Nominate: (New Category) Most enjoyable poster: Fate

If there is going to be a strong push about bringing back an old category (Best Effort in a Losing Cause) then there is no way there is going to be a new category added just based on your man-crush.

And generally it's considered bad form to self-nominate (ie a member of Town nominating best Pro-Town performance).

[Faraday]

2nd

Multiple personality town (I've no problem with a self nom for something like that, it's a good way to draw attention to a game many people might otherwise not have read)

[GreyICE]

Nominate: (New Category) Most enjoyable poster: Fate

If there is going to be a strong push about bringing back an old category (Best Effort in a Losing Cause) then there is no way there is going to be a new category added just based on your man-crush.

And generally it's considered bad form to self-nominate (ie a member of Town nominating best Pro-Town performance).

Huh, I'll file that bad form stuff under things I care about.

If I think my fellow town members have done an outstanding, excellent job I'll nominate them. If I don't, I won't. It's a team game - occasionally one person carries the side, but that didn't happen here. My team did an outstanding job, yes. I like to think I contributed to it - but it wasn't me who was the MVP. Hard to say who was - there were so many things going wrong for the scum team from so many angles, really a team effort.

I enjoyed reading every one of Fate's posts in the thread. So I nommed for that, and recommend other people do too - it's not standard Fate at all (although what is "standard?").

[Xalxe]

Nominate: (New Category) Most enjoyable poster: Fate

Oh my god.

Absolutely not.



On the topic of new categories, whoever said they were in support of a Best Effort in a Losing Cause award, I'm in total agreement.

:goodposting:

[Scummies]

Your friendly neighborhood trophy here:

Please, for my sanity, keep the posts here directly related to Nominations. If there's discussion about whether a nomination should 'count' or anything of that nature, take it outside. It makes my job a lot easier and I would appreciate it!

Thanks!

[Xalxe]

...Yes Master Trophy...

[mastermind]

Not sure how many nominations I'm allowed to make, but we need more mish mash

The favorite games and best players I've seen so far were...

KaleiÐoscøpe's Survivor - Mushroom Kingdom
Betch was the best player. Too bad he doesn't play here.

Blackberry's Deadly Game Show II
Not sure if any player deserves an award here. I think the game was mostly based on luck, but it was still fun to play.

yabbaguy's The Resistance (Blue Game)
I think StrangerCoug was the best player here since nobody really suspected him which helped the Empire to win.

[ReaperCharlie]

The Town of Blackest Night Mafia

for

Best Performance Pro Town Team

- Successfully lynched scum players for five straight Days (Days 1 to 5) and vigged two more scum players. The Town completely destroyed the known original 9 scum roles by the Dawn of Day 6 and lost a 5 player endgame due to a Cult that was unknown at game's start.

1) Doesn't Town have to -win- to be considered?
2) With as many power roles flying around as there were, one would hope they COULD do this.

I read that game, town did win. Cults are flaming bullshit and that's one of the reasons why. Setup was absurdly unbalanced. I mean among other things, you don't declare it a semi-open setup with known alignments then fail to mention that there's an OMG extra alignment that was outside the setup...

With all due respect, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

You have obviously never played a Mr. Flay game, if you think cults are BS.
The setup was NOT absurdly unbalanced, as you say; swingy != unbalanced.
You have obviously NOT read the game, as you claim; as town did NOT win.

Next time, think before you hit the Submit button.

[Ythan]

Next time, think before you hit the Submit button.

You might not want to use this one Chuck.

[mastermind]

oops, I forgot...

StrangerCoug's The New Card Sharks
Great game and the fact that he's been doing it for almost a year shows that he's a great mod.