Bunnylover #1075 wrote:@Feysal: You might have missed it, but I did claim in my previous post.
Ernesto Guevara, Cuban Roleblocker.
I did not miss it. I saw it in preview, but did not change what I'd already written.
I looked up some information on Che Guevara, and what I found was most interesting. He was a central figure in the Cuban Missile Crisis, the single worst incident during the Cold War. He was a leading member of the Cuban delegation visiting Moscow that recommended Soviet missiles being placed in Cuba. After the crisis had been resolved, Guevara is reported to have said that if the missiles had been under Cuban control during the crisis, they would have been fired against targets in the US. He also said that the cause of socialist liberation would have been worth the possibility of millions of atomic war victims. Extremely bad stuff.
It does not end there however. After this incident Guevara began to denounce the Soviet bloc, and became estranged from the Cuban leadership he had belonged to. Eventually he resigned from all of his positions, renounced his honorary Cuban nationality, and left to participate in other revolutions.
Basically, the Che Guevara from the Cuban Missile Crisis would be one of the worst threats to peace imaginable, but in light of his later rift with the Soviets, I have trouble seeing him allied with anyone. The fact that Bunnylover gave his nationality as Cuban instead of Soviet also suggests this. The role sounds like it could be third party more than anything else.
I read julienvonwolfe's posts again, and I'm even less sure of the slip now. When comparing what he was saying in posts
#76 and
#122, it looks like there was a misunderstanding. Like EGL, julienvonwolfe seems to have thought that DavidParker had claimed that his role PM said explicitly that the town consisted of several nationalities. His did not, and he voted DavidParker because he did not see why any town role PM would contain that information, since it was already covered by the rules. Later, after DavidParker explained that his role PM implied other nationalities without being explicit, julienvonwolfe seems to have realized his misunderstanding.
If I've traced julienvonwolfe's thought process correctly, it suggests town to me. Fuzzyman's openness in revealing he was neither Soviet or US was also townish, though this is a WIFOM argument. For Bunnylover, the only thing mildly suspicious is how he delayed revealing his role. It could also be seen as hypocritical of him to think MacArthur and McCarthy would be scum roles given what Guevara did during the Cuban Missile Crisis, except he claimed not to know what Guevara had to do with the Cold War. He also revealed being a roleblocker, which is a scum role so often that town might be more likely to actually claim it. Another WIFOM argument. Damn this is a messy case.
At this point I'd actually favor another lynch. I checked mothrax's activity, and noticed that he has been posting in another game this week, but not here. He even signed up for another game, so having time does not seem to be the issue with his activity. I know we're running out of time, and I have no real arguments to defend Bunnylover with, but I can't shake the feeling that this lynch is wrong.
Vote: mothrax
I can switch to Bunnylover if my vote is required for us to get a lynch. I can be wrong, and even if I'm not, Che Guevara would be a good test of how much faith we can put in name claims and flavor. This game is described as a deeply flawed historical mafia event, and that may mean that flavor is inherently unreliable.
