Haschel Cedricson wrote:Amrun wrote:That's a fair point, actually. HC, why Umbrage?
Because he reacted to Exe's fake daykill in an extremely scummy way. He advocated killing Exe, despite the fact that if the daykill had gone through it would have made it more likely that Exe was town, and he chose the extremely odd phrasing of "Even if he's town, he's now used his power and is basically a confirmed VT, not someone we want alive." If Exe had a daykill and had hit scum, then Exe would be confirmed town. The way Umbrage tried to set up an Exe nightkill suggests that Umbrage knew how TS would flip.
In addition, Umbrage spent a lot of time pushing a case on charter for active lurking when no reasonable interpretation of "active lurking" would describe charter at all. When called out on how awful his argument was, he gave up and posted a picture of a monkey.
OK. Deep breaths. I can do this calmly. And... here we go.
1) Having a daykill ability does not make anyone more or less town. End of story. Not open to debate.
2) I already explained why it is GENERALLY a bad idea to leave VTs alive. I'm not feeling particularly nice today, find that argument yourself.
3) Yes, if he had hit scum, he would most likely be town. And if he hadn't hit scum?
4) There is no other way to describe what charter is doing. It's active lurking. He comes in, says something like "I don't care about whatever you guys are talking about, I just want Umbrage dead kthxbi", and vanishes again. That is active lurking. Charter is active lurking. If you want to actually form a proper argument as to why he is not active lurking, I'm all ears.
5) The post I was responding to was this:
charter wrote:1) When have I disappeared? I've posted every single day the game has been open. I'm most definitely not an active lurker. Now you're just looking for anything you can think of to accuse me of.
2) You're tunneling. You've decided I'm scum (for pretty much no reason I might add) and now you're shaping all of my actions to paint me as scum regardless of whether or not my actions are actually scummy. For example, this latest activity issue, which you're still pursuing, despite contradicting yourself (so clearly you don't believe either story makes me scummy) and despite being clearly wrong. Forgetting about someone has nothing to do with it.
Here charter basically admits to active lurking.
I've posted every single day the game has been open.
Which proves he can post content. But he doesn't. He's posts the same crap over and over. He adds nothing to the game. The definition of active lurking is: a) posting just enough to avoid getting replaced and b) not providing any content.
6) Instead of rehashing old arguments against me, why don't you take a look at other players? Because at this point you're as helpful as charter. All the two of you are doing is sticking your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes, and shouting LALA UMBRAGE IS SCUM. This is not pro-town behaviour. I shouldn't have to tell you fuckers that it is not pro-town behaviour. If it wasn't for dumb shits like you we would be able to tell who's acting scummy. As it stands now, I have to try decide who's scum and who's stupid. Which isn't, suffice it to say, a healthy environment for the town.
I'll explain it to you. You have to get someone else to understand it for you.
My only defense is that I posted that before breakfast.
