Mafia 126 - Lovers Mafia! [Game Over]

[xRECKONERx]

Who is Emptyger's lover?

[Ashblade]

Hi all. I'll get reading soon over this game, and other stuff shortly.

[Charlie]

My top 4 suspect pairs are:
Antihero/GreyICE
DarlaBlueEyes/Llamarble
Nero Cain/xRECKONERx
Espeonage/Purple Orange
Less certain about #4. Not sure it matters at this point. And I hate secondguessing myself anyhow. Because I'm honestly not sure what I can do here. I'm not seeing any way to count 12 votes onto my suspects.

Incidentally, pairs I feel innocent:
Baby Spice/Kcdaspot
Haylen/silvador
Mariyta/Tragedy
Mist7676/vezokpiraka

lulzchainsaws

VOTE: Emptyger

I'm not caught up yet (I will get there, trust me) but this fellow here is sheepable 100%.
VOTE: Emptyger

[Espeonage]

Yet another facepalm worthy post.

@ Vezok: Thoughs on game up to now.

@ Game:

Vote: Mari

[Antihero]

Yet another facepalm worthy post.

You're a facepalm worthy person.

Who is Emptyger's lover?

Thingyman

Compound that to with the fact that Emptyger's posts contain about as much logic as a Lewis Carroll book and I think we have scum.

[GreyICE]

I've always maintained that you have to be town to have a level of logic that is best described with Salvidor Dali paintings. Scum just have no reason to work so hard to accomplish something that's so painfully wrong.

I'm going to reread kcdaspot with the knowledge that he's newb scum. He HAS to have breadcrumbed his partners somehow.

[GreyICE]

Oh wow, you guys speak loads. I could get behind a massclaim,

but I would like to see Baby Spices opinion on it first.

Oh screw it, nevermind.

First thing in the thread, it is a blatant scumslip.

[GreyICE]

She forgot who her goddamn lover was because she was in a 4 person quicktopic. That or she just Haylened our thread. Whatever.

[GreyICE]

Lover List

EmpTyger - Thingyman
GreyICE - Antihero
Llamarble - DarlaBlueEyes
Implosion - Kise
xRECKONERx - Nero Cain
VezokPiraka - SnakePlissken

q21 - Umbrage

Maryita - Tragedy

Kcdaspot - Baby Spice

PurpleOrange - Espeonage
Haylen - Silvador
Werewolf555 - Dramonic

Welp, folks, anyone have a good feeling about our friend Silvador anyway?

Vote: Silvador

He almost got lynched yesterday anyway.

[GreyICE]

And yeah, it was a neat analysis Antihero. I love it. It's playing mafia.

I just honestly think Haylen claimed her scumbuddy. It's just such a full retard explanation, but... anyone else got another explanation for that post?

[Llamarble]

There was a joke during signups about how cruel to us males Haylen/BS loverpair would be; I assumed it was a reference to that.
Reading for associative tells now.

[Antihero]

And yeah, it was a neat analysis Antihero. I love it. It's playing mafia.

Why are you mad at me?

[GreyICE]

I'm not! I like analysis and stuff. I was going to do a really cool one of kcda's posts to see who he was treating as special.

But then I hit Haylen's post where she claimed her scumbuddy and just stopped.

This? This ain't Mafia. It's "Where's Waldo." He's wearing a big stripy hat, unfortunately

[GreyICE]

I mean like... how do we even leave the two of them alive at this point? We have to lynch em. We have one who had a halfway decent wagon run up against them, and the other had to 'check with a dead scum' before doing something.

Like... fail? I'll tell you what: I absolutely promise to sheep your analysis on day 4. Lynch Haylen and Silvador today?

[Llamarble]

I'mma reiterate that Haylen joked about being lovers with BS in the signup thread, and I believe her early mention was a continuation of that joke.

I went through all the loverpairs, and you have to buy bussing for it to be almost anyone other than Emp, who outright defended kcdbs and tried to get the game moving in a different direction.
Also this.

Vote GreyIce

Scummy actions and empty posts.

FOS Thingy/Emp

Also sounds like scum to me.

VOTE: Emptyger
I don't want to quicklynch, but this is definitely the first direction to examine. Chainsaw + Fosbuddy vote otherperson + weirdposting is a pretty good start.

[GreyICE]

Ugh. Want some WIFOM?

Espy's poll:
Top two scumspects:
GreyIce/AntiHero.
Thingyman/Emptyger

Top two town
xReck/Nero Cain
Kise/Implosion

Two pairs you think need to pick up their post (rate or quality) but you have a town read on:
Haylen/Silvador (More a neutral read but I want to see more from Haylen)
q21 - Umbrage (Kcd and I disagree here. Actually that is probably why I have them in this list )

I'd be shocked if the partner ain't in that list. It almost always is with scum, it's like they can't help it.

GreyIce - AntiHero probably scum. If only for pushing the idea that there are three people trying to help Kcd in a scum chat. Clearly there isn't. Not sure who their partner is.

Maryita - Tragedy. "Lets lynch the lurker, but not the guy who hasn't posted in over a week" (There's more. Can't be bothered)
EmpTyger - Thingyman Definately the partners for M/T evidenced by Maryita's comment above.

Didn't DBE just V/LA like 10 minutes before your post?

Vote Mariyta

Maybe I will write up that case on them properly.

That's how scum sheep wagons, not vote for partners.

However Espeonage, I think you're right and that Nero Cain has slipped big time. It's definately a slip too because his thought processes assumed that Kcd and myself were married not lovers, nor the parent/child relationship that I've been calling it. (Two of my kids are older than Kcd btw hence my description)

Full retard sheep.


Anti: You win. I'll chalk the Haylen up to Haylen and roll. Thingyman/Emp you say?

Vote: EmpTyger

Also, the kcdaspot ISO? That way lies madness of Lovecraftian proportions.

[GreyICE]

You know what? I'm not overly fond of this wagon, but I'm just gonna do this:

[Purple Orange]

Well, given my awesome gutread skillz, which now stand at something like 0 for 7...Grey/Anti, Emp/thingy, and vezok/whoever are obviously the final scumpairs?

I see the argument...it's just that if Emp is scum, I think he's darn organized and on top of it scum. Like he seems to think the scum teams are. And he's about the LAST person I can see letting kcda flounder around so badly. Plus it's hard reversing my top townread from yesterday.

So...yeah.

vote: silavor

First, because the case is decent enough on its own merits; the team has done nothing proactive for the whole thread. Coasting, echoing popular trends, and defensiveness. silavor says that even the exchange with reck was just an outgrowth of him defending Haylen.

Secondly...links to kcda/Spice. Not the Baby Spice lover thing...people are right that Haylen talked about it in the signup thread. It's the fact that kcda's variety of confusion about the Reck/Kise matter ("it's just a stupid personal issue and personal issues should be kept out of the game") parallels Haylen's, and quite closely. Compare Haylen's ISO 6 and 7 with kcdaspot's ISOs 9, 10, 12, 16, 17. It's a distinctive parallel; they're the only players to exhibit this flavor of opinion.

The main reason I dismissed a kcda/BS/silavor/haylen theory TWICE yesterday, after seeing this, was because silavor had a head on his shoulders and seemed to grasp things, and I thought he would have stepped in to help kcda by the time kcda got around to posting about the matter. That...evidently didn't happen, though.

[GreyICE]

Couples I ain't lynchin today

Llamarble - DarlaBlueEyes
xRECKONERx - Nero Cain
PurpleOrange - Espeonage
Werewolf555 - Dramonic (Reck, I am finding you and kicking you in the nads for making me read werewolf posts if these two flip scum, but I trust you, oddly)

I can be convinced

EmpTyger - Thingyman
Maryita - Tragedy
VezokPiraka - Mist (this is just policy basically)

Rope? Sure:

Implosion - Kise - for acts of extreme lurkery after making one terribad case day 1. Aslo Imp replacement is what we like to call fucking IoA, and junk IoA at that, along with lots of apologies that content hasn't showed. BAD DOG NO TREAT ROPE
Haylen - Silverdoor

So this is where I am at the moment.

I will SUPPORT ANY WAGON AT ALL ON THE LA

[EmpTyger]

Honestly, I can't remember a worse false negative I've made in my history onsite. I don't really think I can make an effective defense of myself at this point. (I know that personally, if the roles were reversed, I'd not tolerate this kind of defense of mafia to live, no matter how much they may have been mistaken- what I did can't be tolerated for town to win.)

May I make one request? I'd like to reread the thread to reevaluate the other players, given that I made such an error when drawing the conclusions that I have already posted. After I say these closing thoughts, I'll let the town do what they will to me. I can promise that this isn't a stall: I'll ask only for until Sunday (I've got one more busy day tomorrow, but I'll have time over the weekend).

[GreyICE]

Go for it. I honestly wanna lynch Sil more.

P.S. If we flip their scumpartner, you're not the scumpartner anymore, and then you're town! That means tea and biscuits.

Well and that other annoying scum group :/

[Kise]

Emp-lynch might happen?!?

Kcdaspot - 12 (Reck, silavor, vezok, Tragedy, Nero, Dram, Mariyta, Kcdaspot, GreyICE, werewolf, Kise, Llamarble)
Mariyta - 3 (

Espeonage, Purple Orange

, Baby Spice)
Llamarble - 2 (antihero,

EmpTyger

)

Bolded are my picks for the other mafia lovers. They were more likely to try and build a counter wagon instead of being one of those [?] not voting. To adjust this though, KCD didn't self vote and Antihero actually voted him in post 932.

What do you mean "one's innocent the other's guilty?" I does not compute, but if this is an attempt to confuse/frustrate me, it's not working.

The fact that the way

they

lined up lynches wasn't by saying, "if pair A flips scum, pair B is scum," but by saying "if pair A flips

town

, pair B is scum."

Yeah, I think you're trying to confuse me. Who are

they

? We're only talking about you and me here.

Rather than dispel me from my line of thought, why not ask how I'd reevaluate things if my suspects flipped town?

Err...because right now none of ours have flipped anything, so all I can do is try to have you reconsider and reshuffle your mafia assignments while the cards are all still face down.

No need to reshuffle when I need to get my suspects flipped over like flapjacks. I'm thinking you're fighting to get me to change my opinion hard; calling it nonsensical and the likes. I gave you a chance by saying I only think about 90% of the inactive players were town, but that's not good enough to accept, eh.

Everything else we're debating about can be taken to MD.

[GreyICE]

Why is bussing such a terrible strategy? Normally scum are worried about crosskills, but here all they have do do is live down to the last two, and being in good positions on wagons and pro town is a good strategy.

Also kcdaspot was a 'bus for town points' candidate.

[GreyICE]

For reference, where you bus is right around here:

Where is the said case you promised?

You know, when it becomes apparent that kcdaspot is bringing down his pair no matter what ANYONE does to stop it.

it go boom.

Hehe... I see Reck's point now. You go off to get BS' approval for some case, then don't present it or even reveal the contents, so now I have to

unvote;

wagon

vote: kcdaspot

Well I mean unless the town gets distracted.

Catch the slip in 959, people.

I think WEREWOLF thought that one was lame. Your post was so bad it got told by WEREWOLF.

And now today:

"Well obv no bus, lets lynch these two couples herp derp"

You see why you have earned your spot on the rope list.

[vezokpiraka]

I like the emptyger lynch.

I won't mind a PO/ Espe lynch either.

I also like the silvaor/ hayl wagon.

The other people I find town for now. Even GreyICE.