Mini 1130 - A Fishbowl Invasion by Ninja Monkeys! - Over

[crazypianist1116]

/confirm

[crazypianist1116]

Vote: Sundy

Sundy? More like scummy.

[crazypianist1116]

Actually, you know what? Neither would AGar's.

Unvote, Vote: crazypianist

Lol

[crazypianist1116]

Nope, and that's the point =P

[crazypianist1116]

Calling your bluff.

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1. I'm a guy.
2. DemonHybrid, your vote was not random. Your bluff was that you were clearly trying to get someone you saw as a noob to crack under pressure that didn't really exist. Your "wagon" didn't really have a reason.
3. Parama you seem to enjoy putting words in my mouth that weren't there. I was laughing at DH for reasons above. I don't really get why he's voting me, or why he thinks I'm panicking. Furthermore, he's not going to get any more info from me if I die, so I don't see why he's advocating for my death if he wants info from me.
Cecily could you explain your post a bit more, I don't get what I jumped into too soon.

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You had already ruled out Parama and Agar. Furthermore, I already had a vote on me so that probably influenced your vote more. So I'd like you to explain how that's random.

[crazypianist1116]

Get out of my head Agar.

[crazypianist1116]

And for those who will inevitably misinterpret it, that was a joke.

[crazypianist1116]

Again putting words in my mouth. Why you think I'm paranoid or panicked for that matter, I don't know.

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Hmm. I guess I AM putting words into your mouth there, but it's the words you forgot to type up, so it's not really me putting them there since they were there in the first place but never got spoken.

Lol. Or if you need me to be more explicit for you:

[sarcasm]Lol.[/sarcasm]

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Again I don't see why people interpret me saying lol as paranoid.
Bub, I answered your question in 73. I laughed at DH's vote because honestly it looked like he was trying to get something out of me that didn't exist with no pressure or reason. Specifically:

Vote: AGar

because I know Parama and an RVS bandwagon on him doesn't tell us shit.
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Actually, you know what? Neither would AGar's.

Unvote, Vote: crazypianist

He thought he would get information out of me that he wouldn't get from other players. I saw this as him thinking I was weak, but I returned the favor with my lol.

[winger], 74 is just plain wrong. I never contradicted myself. DH was trying to form a wagon on me for what seem like a weak reason(stated above) which is why I lol'd and why I had no problem.

Cecily, it looks like you're trying to explain away your vote on me as RVS but 62 seems like it's not random.

I need to read through again and figure out who to vote.

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I may have interpreted your vote to have more meaning than it really has but did I actually think the wagon was going to get you anything? No.

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Unvote

Sure I was originally suspicious of 102, but Sunday has since provided a really good case against [winger].
And as for this interpretation of "Lol" thing:
1. It was me laughing. You're wrong if you think it had subtler meanings. If you don't believe me, then I can't convince you.
2. [winger] don't try and say your question didn't imply you interpreted somehow other than a laugh. A laugh would mean I had no problem. Further your vote said I was contradicting myself which means you thought I had problems with DH.

Also, don't try and lessen the blow by saying something was an honest question. If you're not going to believe me when I said my lol was an "honest" lol, then why should we believe you when you say your question was honest.

Plenty of other points have already been brought up as well.

Vote:[winger]

If you take every word spoken at face value, you'd spend an entire game lynching town. Just sayin'.

This is why you lynch the people that try to make things seem scummier than they really are.

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Again I'm a guy. If you were paying attention, you would have read that.

Just calling things wrong doesn't mean that they automatically become wrong.

If you interpreted it as a laugh the first time around then why bother questioning? You wouldn't have, because you would have interpreted it as me having no problem with DH's vote. But you interpreted it differently, which is why you questioned me and which is why that makes you the first person to give context to my lol.

As for the whole other people thing, you may have ignored some things directed at you in earlier pages but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Also, you haven't given concrete evidence as to why lol should be taken to mean something different than it is. If there was any reason for it to be seen as hostility or unacceptability then maybe I'd believe you, but lol is generally used to indicate subtle amusement or to laugh at someone. You've just been saying "She said lol, she disagrees."

And as for me waiting to vote? People are in the middle of trying to get a Sundy wagon rolling. My vote is going to jump out since it's not what everyone else is doing. That doesn't mask my vote in anyway but instead makes it more prominent. How exactly would that be trying to hide my vote?

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Don't use so many double negatives. I'm not understanding you at all, but my post covered either side. If you interpreted it like a laugh, then why question? If you didn't then that means you interpreted it differently. If you're trying to keep it ambiguous as to how you interpreted it, that's scummy. Your posts imply you interpreted it as hostility though:

Oso, crazypianist contradicted himself (in my opinion) when he said he did not have a problem with the vote on him. That directly contradicts the tone set by the (what I'd consider) hostile/sarcastic "Lol" response he gave previously.

As for other people, see Agar's posts. There are other things there as well that I don't feel like looking up atm.

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Further, if you have a problem with my post, ask me, don't ask other people to come to the rescue. Your change from using "you" to "he" makes it look like you're trying to appeal to the audience rather than confronting me directly.

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Winger, the part that I was talking about was this:

In fact, part of the debate that has gone on (which you would know if you had actually read and paid attention) involves the fact that I

wasn't

the first one to really give context to the "Lol". I simply asked a question, pianist said "Lol", then DEMONHYBRID is the one who actually pointed out why it was scummy first. In actuality, I only asked crazypianist a question to try and dig a little deeper.

You said you weren't giving context with the question but you just admitted your question implied a context.

Further:

He stayed rational and calm because he had other people with torches and pitchforks to do all the shouting for him.

What? We're talking about the wagon on me or yours? Cecily's quote implies mine, and people were accusing me. So I don't see how it would be easy to stay calm in that situation, but she's saying I did. If you were talking about your own wagon then that's fine but reread it now with the other point in mind.

If you take every word spoken at face value, you'd spend an entire game lynching town. Just sayin'.

This is why you lynch the people that try to make things seem scummier than they really are.

And the people who don't mean what they say.

These aren't mutually exclusive, ne?

Normally I'd post more but I'm totally stressed out with schoolwork. I should have more time this weekend.

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0 to L-1 in a grand total of 44 minutes if I did my math right. obvslip is oooooooooobvious. Akira, a claim before I switch my vote?

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Yeah I got my math wrong. It was L-2

The way I wrote this post, the contradiction is obvious, I can see that. But when I said we'd most likely lose him tonight, I meant that in the case that he was telling the truth.
So what I wanted to say is:

if I'm wrong and he's really the doc

, then we'll most likely lose him tonight.

I was in a hurry posting this and I missed that part, so the real 'slip' here is that I missed a crucial part of my sentence.

So you're saying if he isn't killed tonight then he's mafia? If he's town then that's exactly what the mafia want you to think since he could be a prospective lynch for tomorrow. Or maybe he self-protected. Speculating on night kills will not get you anywhere.

Cecilyscum is likely although I'd like to see a result of a lynch and night first. Specifically

They're saying that he scum slipped in saying that winger will die tonight. People are making the argument that in saying this he revealed himself to be one of the scum. I don't believe that this argument is strong enough to constitute a lynch on him up to this point.

She doesn't think the slip constitutes a lynch yet she's trying to do her best to make it seem like she's not defending Akira, although that seems to not be working so well. If she doesn't support the lynch then she should be explicitly defending Akira, ne?

Also, what are the preconceived notions? Saw a post, saw a slip, analyzed it.

Bleh I should be posting more by this weekend, I'm just getting finals done.

[crazypianist1116]

No need prolonging the inevitable.

Unvote Vote:Akira

[crazypianist1116]

Morning.

Vote: Cecily

[crazypianist1116]

hammering is cool with me

if she's mafia do we win, or do we need to kill the traitor?

So you know how many mafia there are? Whether there's an SK or not?

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Yeah but your question assumed that it was one or the other not accounting for other possibilities.

[crazypianist1116]

Maemuki I was looking for an answer from twisted.

Provided there is an SK, winger could have targeted them or their target or the target of the mafia (or the mafia but I'm not exactly sure if jailkeeper works like that). Yes this follows Natural Action Resolution as [winger] would have protected before he died.

Mod: This may be asking too much but care to post PMs of the dead?

Too much to ask.

[crazypianist1116]

Best. Flavor. Ever.

Except monkey was misspelled donkey.

Misspelled?

[crazypianist1116]

3.5 hours? New record! at least for me...

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regarding to day length

[crazypianist1116]

Hey everyone I'm alive. Sorry for not posting much. I'll make a substantial post within the next 20 hours or so. As for who I think is scummy, Oso/TS although I want to go back and reread day 3 to verify my suspicions.

I find it a bit funny that Oso's calling me and Bub uber scum when he hasn't voted either of us. Also it's interesting how I get lumped together with Bub without even posting...

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HMMM.

Just read through Day 3 again. Yeah TS is townie unless he's daytalk scum with AGar which is highly unlikely.

I'm starting to take more of a side with Oso now. Bub however looks scummy to me. His trying to draw a reaction out of Oso about his day 2 motives after he said this:

Waiting on AGar and Riceballtail before trying to take this day where I'd like to see it go.

was pretty odd to me. It makes more sense to focus on fewer targets at once rather than casting suspicion everywhere and making everyone wade through hundreds of posts of seemingly unrelated content.

Bub then continues to attack Oso about not caring about the Cecily wagon. Which is too much to ask. Oso's right about 3.5 hours being waaaaay too soon for a lynch.

This as well:

I'm not really buying the case on DH. Personally, I think he's town. I don't read his reference to Parama as deflection. I think he's got a valid point in that Parama basically said the same thing he did and Agar didn't latch onto him.

The fact is that Cecily was such a prime target for a lynch that scum could have just sat back and watched.

The bold. That's just it Bub, she wasn't. And that is the main reason I like you as scum.

You said I looked super-fine for a lynch at the end of D-2. I made that post D-3. So since that's the main reason you thought I was scum, how could you have thought I was scum before I made that post?

Oso wasn't attacking the post but rather Bub's hammer, at least that's how I read it. His explanation of why akirascum =/=> cecilyscum supports this.

You don't know what I was going to do if she claimed a power role, so don't make such a brash assumption

I find this to be bull. I see 311 as Bub intending to hammer Cecily regardless of the claim.

Vote: Bub Bidderskins

DH has been a lot more reactive today than proactive, mainly answering stuff asked of him rather than providing scumspects. I don't get his TS vote at all either.

This:

I'd say there is definite scum on both Oso's and TS's wagons. I need to do some analysis.

is promising however. Looking at just the votes, Parama and AGar were the only ones on both. Bub doesn't object to the TS wagon just saying he'd prefer an Oso lynch.

RBT hasn't been doing much the whole game apart from active lurking.

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But as for right now, I would gladly lynch AGar, his sudden vote on me reeks of OMGUS and

unsubstantiated claims

.

3 people on my wagon, all three of them are garbage votes.

Hypocrisy much? Sure you may have called AGar's vote garbage with that first quote, even though you don't really explain why, but that still doesn't explain DH or Parama. Regardless, let's look at the three votes on you:

VOTE: Riceballtail

Pretty much textbook lurker-scum. Latest post projecting about the TS wagon was one of the scummiest posts I've seen in a long time.

So you don't think you've been lurking? Bull. Further he's calling you on this:

I'm feeling the TS wagon is powered by ScumFuel.

Don't like it. Especially AGar.

another assertion which you don't explain.

I'm feeling the TS wagon is powered by ScumFuel.

Don't like it. Especially AGar.

This is like the exact same thing Twisted did, except you're pushing along the AGar suspicion that Twisted started while also saying "he's town" so that the next day you'd be like "I told you so nubs, vote agar he's scum" and nobody would bat an eye - hell they'd probably join you. vote: RBT

What's the flawed reasoning?

Meh. I don't like RBT's answer at all. Vote: Riceballtail
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As a PS, I'm not going to go and line up suspicion, we'll take things as they go, but as TS pointed out, I don't like RBT's hypocrisy in saying that others have contributed nothing when RBT is very clearly active lurking. I'm just not sure who is genuine about their suspicions on RBT.

So yeah, point out the garbage that you think is there.

This is getting us places.

Unvote Vote: RiceBallTail

L-1. Someone care to ask for a claim?

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Really TS? You don't even give RBT a chance to respond?

[crazypianist1116]

9 hours from when you asked RBT to claim and she has yet to post. You could have at least waited for a claim. There was no rush.

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Willing to bet that it's someone that Parama was feuding with at some point during the game. I get the vibe that whoever killed him did it out of fear.

Analysis to come after classes.

Funnily enough, that was you during Day 3 as well as Oso and Sundy. He attacked me during Day 1, but he dropped that attack during day 3. I do however find this curious:

some late D1/early D2 posts make me believe crazy is town, and Sundy's really the only other person besides crazy who could be scum, so.... Oso/Sundy team it is. GG guys, if you want to play with me in another, just /in in the queue after I do :>

Possibly Oso and Sundy are the scum team and he was trying to get drafted by them.

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Also I don't get why Pianist suggested Parama would finger the scum-team openly in the thread. However I do agree he was trying to be recruited by mentioning the traitor so often if you look back over his early posts.

If Parama knew who scum were (which as traitor he should), calling them out in such a cocky attitude would only get noticed by the actual people he was calling out and thus give him a higher chance of being recruited. I feel like an Oso flip would give us the most information regarding other players but I can't justify lynching Oso for it at this time...

I want to go back a reread with the context of a few more roles being revealed.

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I feel like we argued earlier in thread over whether traitor knew who the scum were and came to the conclusion that not knowing was mean on the mod's part. I could be mixing it up with something else though. I'd imagine it's difficult if not impossible to get the mafia to pick up on recruit worthy behavior but the town to not if you don't know who the mafia is.
Preview edit: yeah...

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Cecily was an antimiller IMO.
I need to reread. Post later today, since I'm at school atm.

I'm really, REALLY, wondering if this is true and just another fact to try and draw attention to him being traitor. In that case, there would probably be only 1 mafia left.

We know winger didn't Jailkeep his killer, he's dead. He could have possibly jailed the mafia who was sent out to recruit but, until we get some evidence that Mafia have a blocking ability, it looks to me that [winger] jailed Mae.

winger could have possibly jailed Parama but I have never asked, or read, if the JK prevents other actions except NKs from affecting the jail target. According to the wiki, there is a variant of the JK that protects from all night actions so that could be what we are seeing here, without the name change to "Alien", obviously (I searched site-wide to see if I could find a JK discussion and I'm pretty sure one is there, I just can't find it at the moment as it's not obvious by reading topic names).

Had [winger] jailed Parama and Mae targeted [winger], then Mae would have found who targeted [winger] and probably would have claimed D2. If Cecily, then this would confirm her D2 actions and the theory above so she wouldn't have to claim. She would not have to claim in that case since Cecily was such a big train. I digress, however. It might be a better idea to stop with hypothetical evidence and try to find scum with what they've said.

you seem to understand mafia mechanics much better than myself, Oso.

igmeou

What's wrong with understanding game mechanics?

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Twisted, mafia generally kill as a team. Recruitment I'm not sure how that happens but it could be a team ability as well.

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Oso I'm just saying if Mae watched [winger] and then saw Cecily, it would have been in her advantage not to claim as the Cecily wagon was going to produce a lynch. Again, I say this is possible since Parama pointed out the fact that Cecily might have been an antimiller.

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I'm not saying speculating on power roles and what not is a bad idea. I enjoy it actually as it can be a very logical part of a game that generally has little to no concrete evidence. If we can reach conclusions based on what has happened then by all means let's lynch because of them.

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Yeah TS is townie unless he's daytalk scum with AGar which is highly unlikely.

[crazypianist1116]

You don't get it, I wrote that on Day 3 not day 4. That means I knew you were confirmed town.

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alright then cp

let me ask you who you want to be lynched today

My gut is telling me Sundy. I want to look over the cases and Iso as well before I vote. If there are two, then I'll wait to Day 5 to share my opinions on who I think the second is. Why are you voting me?

[crazypianist1116]

Sundy, a claim.

[crazypianist1116]

Reading from start of D4. Will probably make a decision when I get to the end.

[crazypianist1116]

*bites lips*

Vote: Oso

[crazypianist1116]

Sundy, your watch for the night? I'm interested in lynching you but I'll wait till your response and after everyone has spoken up to vote.
If any PR has useful information now would be the time to speak.

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I didn't know I was going to hammer Oso at the time. I was weighing the options and thought Sundy pointed out some good holes in Oso's argument that I need to reevaluate now. When I asked for the claim, I was leaning towards hammering Sundy. I agree with you on the possible Lylo Bub. Don't vote unless you're positive!

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Rolefish much DH?

[crazypianist1116]

Asking if something is possible generally means you're asking for evidence for the contrary. But it's no big deal.

[crazypianist1116]

CP needs to post thoughts. Now.

Ok.

My gut's telling me Agar but my brain's telling me DH. DH's case on AGar just seems really bad. Based purely on vote analysis that doesn't really seem scummy. Also AGar's logic is good on why 2 watchers seems like a bad idea.

I feel like if AGar was scum, he'd be advocating for a Sundy lynch more as both Bub and I would be more easily turned to vote for him after D4.

The DH-AGar voting for each other tells me either:
a. We aren't in LyLo and/or
b. One of you is scum

And then we have this:

But then when I point out RBT's lurkiness...

VOTE: Riceballtail

Pretty much textbook lurker-scum. Latest post projecting about the TS wagon was one of the scummiest posts I've seen in a long time.

Out of nowhere. This is coming off of his TS wagon, which he was late on. 4th, to be exact.

Funny, you never did point out RBT's lurkiness, at least before his vote.

Vote: DemonHybrid

I feel more comfortable with this than an AGar vote and seeing as both of them are not voting for Sundy, pursuing a Sundy lynch will not happen.

Funny/guilty(?) exchange between Crazy/Agar:

Get out of my head Agar

And

for those who will inevitably misinterpret it

, that was a joke.

Context missing? DH and Parama were trying to lynch me for shit reasons.

I didn't know I was going to hammer Oso at the time. I was weighing the options and thought Sundy pointed out some good holes in Oso's argument that I need to reevaluate now. When I asked for the claim, I was leaning towards hammering Sundy. I agree with you on the possible Lylo Bub. Don't vote unless you're positive!

You were leaning towards hammering Sundy, but you hammered Oso when he claimed vanilla townie. What was it about Oso's claim that made you want to lynch him instead of Sundy?

I think you're a bit confused. Sundy was the one who I asked to claim not Oso as he already claimed. I didn't lynch Oso because of his claim but because of Sundy around page 24ish.

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I claim VT as well. Sundy, I at the very least want to see a case on me that I can refute before you vote me.

DH's case on AGar stinks. That's why I voted DH. If you want me to be more specific:

Day 1: Akira's slip was obvious yet he uses AGar's vote on him as evidence.
Day 2: Was only 3.5 hours long.
Day 3:

Day 3: All mentioning of Cecily was with the "DH is chaining lynches" theory and nothing else. In fact, AGar said nothing about Cecily Day 1, except for this post:

Twisted is almost assuredly town.

Explain pl0x. I'm intrigued by this particular read.

Cecily-scum is trying to start a counterwagon on Twisted.

Interesting.
Tech explanation.
I grok.

I've been hanging out with Thor too much...

Which kind of contradicts the "Hey, he was definitely town and you were chaining lynches" opinion he had...

This quote came from before the incident where TS was thought to be lynched but really put at L-1. AGar then states on Day 3:

Well we have confirmed town at least.

The contradiction is not valid since the faux-lynch changed things.

He gave no reason for calling AGar's Oso vote scummy so I don't have a clue why he put it there.
Sundy's vote on D4 I saw this as a valid explanation:

As for my "WTF 2nd WATCHER LYNCH LYNCH" coming out of "nowhere" - I missed the end of D4. Again, this game has been flying at a quicker rate than most games where certain events happen in a matter of hours rather than over the course of a few days. So when I saw a second watcher claim, my first thought was "Yeah, we lynched that jackass." Instead we lynched Oso. That was probably the second-dumbest town play I've seen.

Throughout the post, DH said things such as:

Up to this point, he hasn't mentioned Oso. He was third on the wagon.

This is coming off of his TS wagon, which he was late on. 4th, to be exact.

Then, his vote for Sundy. Again, 3rd on the wagon.

To which I point to Rule #1

With this reasoning as well as:

The DH-AGar voting for each other tells me either:
a. We aren't in LyLo and/or
b. One of you is scum

I voted for DH.

Continuing my case on DH:

Hmm.

RBT, can I get thoughts from you on every player still alive so far?

Implies that RBT is lurking.

No it doesn't.

Just for the record, both of you have said, near endgame stage, that "These are gut votes" and have given EXTREMELY limited reasoning in a case against me, while I have pointed out every flip-flop and wagon change of AGars, and will do the same for CP when I have time.

I said no such thing. AGar said no such thing. Sure AGar may have said:

Also, I've got a strong gut feeling I can't shake. Usually I ignore gut, but when it latches on like this, I'm gonna follow it. The only other time I've had this feeling, it was right, and I ignored it.

But the key word there is ALSO.

Also, I wonder why you two are following "gut" reads instead of voting the "OH MY GOD TOTALLY SCUMMY SUNDY 2ND WATCHER CUZ oOoOoOoOoO wAtChEr ClAiM!~~"

Now this is deflection. I believe it was you who gave no reason for switching your Sundy read.

Right now, I'm for a CS lynch. His vote on DH was very opportunistic. Also, to this point Crazypianist has been on every single mis-lynch wagon. He was first on Cecily, fourth on RBT, and hammered Oso.

How was my vote opportunistic? Also, if you want to play the VCA game like DH did, go ahead but you're going to need to say what was wrong with my votes not just that I was on the wagons. By your logic, you should also be looking at DH and yourself since you two were both on two of the three mislynch wagons.

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Day 2: He doesn't vote Cecily or mention him.

When something's in your vote post, I take it to mean you're using it as evidence against the person you're voting for.

He was talking about Cecily.

Great. I thought he was talking about TS. My mistake. That doesn't clear the point that calling Cecily town and saying you were chaining lynches are two different things.

As for the vote analysis. I felt like you were trying to imply AGar was late on the wagon not towards the middle. If that's what you're thinking, then say that.

Re: RBT
You could have asked that question of anybody. It's not going to ring any bells unless one goes back into the thread and sees her patterns.

Re: Gut
There's a big difference between "These are gut votes" and "I have a case on you and my gut concurs."

Re: Sundy
You explained why two watchers was possible. You however did not vote Sundy because you thought a second watcher contradicted the first. Surprisingly enough, you really didn't have good reasons for voting Sundy:

1. his prod
2. his absence on the Akira wagon, like a Cecily light. This is more on the null side, given Cecily's town flip
3. His bickering with Parama, and Parama's death.

The only one which is slightly valid is 3. But we still have no clue whether Parama was trying to bus or buddy his teammates so that's not really valid either. Then you don't bother responding to Sundy's rebuttal.

If you really think that two watchers is impossible (which, I don't see why ANY sane scum would have claimed a 2nd watcher after the 1st died), then why aren't you voting him?

I never said that.

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So you're assuming 2 scum and then using process of elimination? Assume 1 scum for the time being. Where do your thoughts lie?

Regardless,

1) Agar started a counter-wagon when Crazy was being called out
2) DH caught a scum-slip and nailed the first scum
3) DH believed my claim rather than pushing an easy lynch, whereas Agar put me at L-1 with no explanation

1. I guess you're talking about the day 1 wagon. I only had 2 votes on me at the time which is when AGar voted [winger]. He didn't really start a counter-wagon as I didn't really have a wagon on me at the time.
2. Fine that's part of a town read on DH. Could you elaborate a bit more on why you think he's town?
3. Well, DH did believe your claim D5 but he didn't D4. Besides, AGar can no longer logically believe DH/Sundy scum team as you would have already voted for me. Which means (provided he's town) he's thinking DH/Bub, DH/me (unlikely), or that this game has only one scum in it. AGar, I'd like to here your thoughts on this.

Ninja'd - AGar, Sundy is talking about this:

VOTE: Sundy

Still not comfortable with DH, but I can't get anything more than uber-bus/chaining lynches and the NK analysis, which isn't enough here.

Sundy, you're now at L-1. Enjoy, scumbag.

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Wow what a fail. I'm town. Game likely isn't over as I don't really see Bub/DH but I could be wrong. My call is DH.

[crazypianist1116]

Then again, it could still be Sundy, if there's only one person left.

[crazypianist1116]

Well it's clearly not lylo. Have fun on d6.

[crazypianist1116]

Sundy if you were playing me that whole time and you are scum with DH you might as well say it now...

[crazypianist1116]

>_>

[crazypianist1116]

GG guys. Sorry for tunneling you DH.

[crazypianist1116]

Regardless, I blame myself (and encourage all of you to blame me) for the loss.

Nah I wouldn't say that. There was a ton of tunneling and everyone should share part of the blame. No one (except Oso) really suspected Bub.