Newbie 1067 - Game over - Town Win!

[Kcdaspot]

Hello I am Kcdaspot

I detest walls. Any good points you have can be kept short and simple. If you do insist on walling please make it as readable as possible.

I cam to play. Not read a book.

with that...

VOTE: Escho

HAPPYHAPPYJOYJOYRVSFUNFUN

[Kcdaspot]

where IS nacho by and by?


Oh... marathon.

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We should stop RVS at page 2 or 3 so

Vote:Kcdaspot

You DO realize that you already voted me...

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GAME IS SO SLOW.

Questions.

Favorite color?
Lynch all Lurkers?
Lynch all Liars?
How would you build a case against someone? Wall of text? dissecting posts?
How much wood can a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

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My answers.

1) blue
2) no actually. some people could be town and lurking. and lurking doesn't account for reading.
3) Yes. the ONLY exception is that THEY BETTER HAVE A DAMNED GOD REASON.
4) Quote-striping is a nono. Constantly linking is bad too. I would only put down 3-4 posts that were scummy and show my reasoning why.
5) 10 logs, tops.

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My questions:
1. How often have you played this game before and how experienced were the other players
2. How fast can you say: How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

i've been playing on EM alot before this. Mafiascum.net is a godsend due to it's pacing. I've played with fellow noobs and vets alike. fared decent. not well but decent.

2.5 seconds.


also LOL at mist's #5 from my questions.

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MOD: CAN YOU PROD NACHO AND ANYONE ELSE NEEDING IT? A VOTE COUNT WOULD BE NICE TOO.

Mod note: Was working on one as you asked

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okay i've been waffleing as of late.

I don't like Perry's vote on nacho at the top of this page.

but then mist vote/unvote him "as a joke" then votes him to put him back at L-2?

further mist there is a low chance of the IC being maf. if he was, why post at all?

AND THEEEEEEN...

^ a quick short post -
We would be automatically finding the mafia if nacho was hammered. And btw guys just because someones an IC or a SE doesn't grant them town so don't make assumptions.

what is with you all?

It's page freaking 2. and everyone has thirst for IC blood?

other hand: nacho we need some content please.

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UNVOTE:

I'm saving reads until page 5.

I'd like Les to post more, at least answer my questions from the start of the game...

Nacho... how do you feel about Perry? I'm getting slightly bad vibes there.

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Page 5 there will be some solid leads to go on.

everyone would have posted by then. I feel that it's a valid point to read and/or reread to evaluate the game.

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^^^ i like this kind of post. It takes into account that anyone can be scum and instead of saying blatantly "THIS GUY IS TOWNTOWNTOWN" it gives out probabilities.

though mist there can't be just one scum.

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expect my post to be at like 2 pm CST.

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Though really?

L-2 on les?

Why the pressure?

I'm getting null noob here.

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Yeah i read his ISO

Les is a noob. get your votes off him. I've almost had this happen where someone was almost voted out because he was from another country and his post style was different.

ISO 3 is where everyone is getting their reads from? there is nothing definitive there. just odd placing of words.

Pedit: Okay THAT post was bad. I'm not voting him still. Do you have any reads les?

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The core problem and fatal weakness of this Town Community (for those who on the Town's side) in this game is that they have adopted "why he said so?" approach so early brought in by more experienced players (Nachomamma8, for example, purposefully?).

As a result you have overdone it and lost in the blind alleys of misunderstanding and false decision making.

To change this I put forward some provocative and not matching terribly well statements in my post # 75,

thouthg clearly indicating that I am a Townie.

(Sure, I read lots of manuals on this game and I also know, as some of you do (Lady Mist7676, for example) that the player who mentions Cop for the first time can well be on the Mafia side and other tricks that are not so obvious for a newcomer; I played this game a lot with cards when a student with slightly different rules, though I am playing it for the first time on the net.)

As a result my post has brought out a storm of "brain analysis" and is coming down to its conclusion ... lynching Les Guilelesser.

Mafia has already won this day! Sorry, but this is the truth. Mafia may call it the day!

BOLDED

: We dont know that. we don't have your role PM. and posting such things will get you modkilled faster than anything.


those last two statements... MY GOD... those last two statements... Are you going to hammer yourself? I sincerely not. but BY GOD.

what you need to do is to put forth some reads.. just look back on the game and see who is scummy.

fair warning though: those last two statement earned a

FOS: les

..

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..."i sincerely hope not..."

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.... oh my god...

I just might do this... i might just vote. I REALLY Don't want to L-1 les right no but....

I have revealed my role (a Townie); so do not vote me, of course. By supporting me now the Town increases the chance to lynch a maf (mathematically our chance to lynch a maf rises up to 3 out of 7).

Next, Doc and Cop should not check Les Guilelesser during the night time - this also increases our chance to get rid of the Mafia.

is this real? i'm high right now, i know it.

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inspire:

I'm giving les the whole of page seven to do something worthwhile. if he has not by then I may in fact put him at L-1 if no objections

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@Cop,
I know who you are.
Sorry, I am sorry! At some point you might have said; "Les, what are you doing? You have already revealed to the whole world the role of the lady (Mist) in this game. Now you are putting me, the cop, under possible Mafia attack." I am sorry, sir. I must admit that the Mafia this night will neither kill me nor Mist but they WILL BE LOOKING FOR YOU! And the chance that they will knock down you or doctor is my major concern.

.... I require subtitles.

AND WHERE IN THE FUK DID MIST CLAIM? FURTHER WHY IN THE HELL DID SHE CLAIM OR WHY

WOULD

SHE CLAIM TO YOU?

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so what your saying is that perru is scummy with les... but what if... and i'm streching here but what if les flips town? I've dealt with this kind of play before, most of his scummyness came from the fact he was from a different country.

long story short that slot was replaced but was town... now if les is committing the same mistake here what would happen to perry? sure his outward attack on les is overzealous but as of right now we honestly can't say it is or isn't justified..

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Nacho: also to your second point on les...

I can't really say... but given his post style it may be town.

although I can't say how I like/dislike him voting someone then unvoting him after the person he votes just posts once...

thinking about it, if anything depending how he plays, he may be a more solid D2 lynch.

it's 1 am here i have to sleep. now.

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.............

ispira had only one vote on him.....

heavy pressure is what you are under now les.

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okay so reading over all of what les has said... it's very scummy if each post is taken bit by bit.

but taken as a whole in context... i'll have to say, with a small remark on how les needs to calm down a but and think his posts through (HEY MIST SOUND FAMILIAR? WINKWINKNUDGENUDGE), I will ultimately say the he is indeed town.

that perry case is intriguing as well. I'll ISO him now.

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my god, he says NOTHING until his 15th-16th posts where he sees everyone on les's case.

he's been on his phone or so he claims for almost all of the game and when he gets around to it he repeats everyone's case on les for a read.

the ONLY benefit of a doubt i'll give him is the phone thing but that has got to give.

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quote striping and one liners =/= content perry

i'd vote you but HwaG beat me and i'm not ringing you to L-1 without you posting decent reads/cases.

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... bringing...

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posting.

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sorry, stress and apathy.

also got carried away with the les bit.

pre reads i giving him the benefit of the doubt and call him town.

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Les was first regardless:

I am now comfortable in calling him town. his second to last post actually had content:

With Les making some MASSIVE noise, chaos and confusion, keeping him around could only be a good thing for scum. If they keep the raving,

lunatic Townie

around, that means they can keep most people distracted and manouvre around them....

With that wall of text said and suspicions raised,

I'm keeping my vote on Les.

I don't want this noise distracting us from finding real scum.

Bravo!
What you are saying is that Les is Townie (though is lunatic) and then let's lynch him (Les, the Townie) on Day 1 because I am so tired of this noise. Yes, let us lynch a townie on the 1 day - this will give us a bit of rest - and then we shall go in search of mafia.

You act like a real maf, Disorder!

he disected the post pretty well and built a case on it. jury is out weather I believe dys is town or not.. so...

Dysorder:I hesitate on a read here. on one hand you've been in the back mostly. on the other the one post of good content came from your ISO 9, (linked because quote stripes suck) where he says he is not confident that les or perry is scum. he also has some concerns on nacho..

next post though i don't think he explained it well enough. les may have something here. i'm going say null to slight scum. and i'm keeping an eye on him.

Nacho: not really much IC content huh? no that's not scummy.
aggressive but town because asking questions and putting the answers together for reads = town play. and they were good questions too
and then iso 5 showed up.

Unvote, Vote: Les Guilesser
[bigletters]L-2[/bigletters]
...
Just trying to make our mod's job a little easier active and keep everyone active. I have no idea what's going on at your house, I just want you to be here and posting.

#76 is a big post with no vote. Don't kill this town read I have on you...

And yes, roles are revealed on death.

(quoted because important)

Those last 3 sentences are directed at les... voting someone to l-2 and then calling them town in the same post.. is this typical IC play?
he explains his vote better in his ISO 9 then in his next post he is not interested in a les lynch and vote perry.
explains his his new les is town read.. which I agree with along with my reason (he's posting more consistent.)
then the case on perry, are the posts you quoted in chronological order? next post demonstrates his case better in my view.
a "i'm here" post.
then votes me on gut and my not wanting to bring a BW to l-1.

it's a odd ISO... reading null. I still don't know if i like that les vote early on.

perry: phone poster... scummy. I agree with nachos post.
if you are town then you SHOULD care about town losing a member.
starts scumhunting but just applies pressure to les.


scum.

escho: I'm expecting something definative here.... and nope.
one case, on mist.. which is pretty understandable. and your 2nd post raises a eyebrow.
not much else...
Null-scum.


I'd have more but i just introduced my little bro to Homestuck.
he likes me reading to him. also me and sleep have to get along. i've been slipping up in school and when i go to work i'm tired.. not wanting to get fired here.
the rest tomorrow.

also i don't know if escho and perry are buds. I doubt it. gut.

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round two? tonight... this is what i get for dicking around on youtube...
I work everyday from 4 to whenever i get done.

9$/hr

not a bad gig I should be back by 6 at the latest. I'll probably knock out 2 ISO before then. right now? shower.

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KAY THEN

HwaG? HwaG!

not much here... likes the les wagon after disagreeing somewhat in the same post. i assume he got ninja'd by les. though i hate that vote on les... what was the reason for that? i miss it.

OH WOW

Do I really need to explain how obvious itvm is why Im voting les or something?

Fact is, even if he is town he isn't any help. I don't see why we should drag it.

Every post he has made are spoken as if he knows who all the townies are and how the game will play out. He probably is not only a newbie, but also scum.

Now that I see that les as town that is THE WORST POST i've thus far. check out the bolded. "if he's town lynch him anyway so we can get on with it"? WOW.

vote hop to inspire, then a vote hop to perry.

are you TRYING to follow the wagon?
and then he unvotes beacause it was a "pressure vote"
read: TOP SCUM
and on that UNVOTE:

I'm finishing my reads before I vote. but you have just earned my attention good sir.

Inspira: null-town. lots of content. little activity as far as votes go... I'd like to see your reads as far as everyone in this game. ISO post 17 is odd, it's a case defense. that's about it. scumhunt moar

Mist: this is not your usual play. at the beginning you are your usual spastic self but you can tell she thinking about the game more. i can't pin down weather this is a town or scum meta tell. reading... her usual self on the cop thing I say had she persued it further i'd look at that different. I like the reads post sha gave in her ISO 22. it's a very clear list on how she stands.

her latest post has more content then ANY of her games thus far... I can't tell where she's coming from.. she's scumhunting a little, and caring about the game...

A cautious null read on her. we'll see how this goes later on.

and hey i'm done!

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apology to nacho. i misread the quote stripes there. i'm switching it to null-town on him.
everything else is cool...

i was talking about your actions dys that post was a defense from les i believe.

annnnd VOTE: HwaG

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^^ i needed a laugh.

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Les Guilelesser: confused, I was pretty certain that he was scum, but then Nacho and kcda started defending him and now I don't know what to think any more.

If we get close to deadline and I don't have any other good targets I think I'll vote him because he has the least value to town.

IGMEOY: inspira

>___>

also mist failed and I lol'd.

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WHERE IS EVERYONE?

PRODS, PRODS EVERYWHERE

please?

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im hea,e just dont really know what to do >.>

find scum> vote scum> convince everyone they are scum> ????> PROFIT

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of course that's a simplistic method. everyone has their own style. noting HwaG hasn't posted since my case...

thinking too hard of a defense?

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^^ lynch him.

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Kcd -

still hasnt given us those reads and we are on page 10. He seems to think Les is scummy and quotes him but still says he might be town. He says he doesnt like walls yet he does them himself.

Read: 20/80

I FREAKING DID.

READ MOAR

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oh you TL;DR'd me?

Les: town
Dys: null/slicht scum
Nacho: town
Escho(replaced): null/scum
HwaG: SCUMSCUMSCUM
Inspira: null/town
mist: null
oh and Kcda: Town incarnate.

wait.. i missed someone.

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oh perry: scum.

my cases are on page 9.

sorry about the legibilty

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Mist: move your vote to HwaG.

everyone: do the same.

48 hrs and this is the top scum i got. time MAKE THIS BW HAVE NO BRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKES

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clarify: 48 hrs till deadline.

WE NEED MOAR POSTING

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@zach: would you rather me put him at L-1?

in my first newb game had a guy name zwetzsymarshen (i think thats right) he had a avi like a chibi-tiger or something.

he basically commited the same mistakes as Les is doing right now. because he was from new zealand.

I simply noted those statements in his posts because there was no town motivation from them. and my memory is fuzzy but I don't think i voted him... i may have... hang on..

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no i never did vote him. I also see town tells from him in his more recent posts. see page 9.

HwaG needs to die though. Please.

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Les Guilelesser 2011-03-15 14:28:14 2 days 0 hours
Hazard with a Glove 2011-03-14 23:42:33 2 days 14 hours

Dude... where's my prods?

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was 48 hours in my newb game...

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It was early in the game... and besides.. I never truly switched my stance. In the back of my head stood doubt that he was scum. it's why I never put him at L-1

I'm not sure if you have put the posts you are talking about in context. have you check the times of the posts in relations to everyone else's?

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.............

why is this game so dead?

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well for starters you're not reading...

see page 9

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... quicker way....

HwaG? HwaG!

not much here... likes the les wagon after disagreeing somewhat in the same post. i assume he got ninja'd by les. though i hate that vote on les... what was the reason for that? i miss it.

OH WOW

Do I really need to explain how obvious itvm is why Im voting les or something?

Fact is, even if he is town he isn't any help. I don't see why we should drag it.

Every post he has made are spoken as if he knows who all the townies are and how the game will play out. He probably is not only a newbie, but also scum.

Now that I see that les as town that is THE WORST POST i've thus far. check out the bolded. "if he's town lynch him anyway so we can get on with it"? WOW.

vote hop to inspire, then a vote hop to perry.

are you TRYING to follow the wagon?
and then he unvotes beacause it was a "pressure vote"
read: TOP SCUM
and on that UNVOTE:

I'm finishing my reads before I vote. but you have just earned my attention good sir.

Respond to this. Now.

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i voted you one post later.

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unconfirmed 2nd scum found gg

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD PERRY

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i'd really like to lynch Hwag please...

Game needs to move... like now...

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lol

i ask for a hammer please.

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^^^^^^^^^

well nacho?

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flipscumflipscumflipscumflipscumflipscumflipscumflipscumflipscumflipscum

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i'm praying Hwag flips scum.

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...you don't realize how much i raged when Hwag flipped town.

GOD DAMMIT.

... and to start off day 2 I WOULD vote Les here. For providing a hammer like that eyes are and will be cast to you.
but moreover...

VOTE: mist

interesting way to start the day there mind explaining that post?

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Dys

his entire D1 is defend and votehopping. the only reasoned out vote he had was on nacho.

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I getting close to thinking les is scum again...

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mod: is this game abandoned?

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Truth^

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mod i'm telling you this game died.

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it does not help that most of the town is lurking/don't care :/

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does that count as out of thread communication?

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how was it weak?

he had no response, none.

and it was a very valid argument..

meh.

how do you feel about dysorder?

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i actually at the time of his exit didn't like a les lynch.

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newb null town

I can't really comment on most of his work...

but this post is a simple exemplar why i think he's more newb than anything.

"

Good-night? ah! no; the hour is ill. Which severs those it should unite...

" Percy Bysshe Shelley (1792-1822)

Town is losing game! One I wish I never played, Oh, what a mess!

"this sucks" -- null noob

But anyway I would like to share with you the lessons I learnt:

1. Some players being Town unfortunately do not act pro-town.

you see him learning

I cannot understand the minds of dead souls and speak on their behalf, of course, but ... I think Hazard ought to have been more active not to lead town people to miss-lynch.

hindsight is always 20/20

2. Other players, like me (Les) are unfortunately over active. So when Inspira points a finger in blame at me he is right from the point of view of simple logic, but... he is committing the same mistake for the second time (first he voted for Hazard, now he is voting for Les). So, Inspira, If I am lynched you will have the three other fingers pointing back at yourself

<< very town - scumhunting when the pressures on and putting some logic behind it. he doesn't explicitly say "X is scum" here but he draws people's attention to alleged legitimate scummy behavior

3. Following the development of the game mafs look like love me a lot. So they will not kill me till the very end. And that is bad for the town. I wish I had been killed by mafs so that IC Zacharios could go on with this game.

i'm not sure how to read this.. he recognizes himself as a VI...

4. Good news! Doc and Cop are alive! I think they should play now in a more active way.
5. If Hazard had been turned out to be scum I would have voted Lady Mist (for the reasons I had given before the end of D1).,
6. Love you all
Les

just a few of the tilltale signs as to why I, to my knowledge, never voted him... at least on D1.

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im bolded by the way.. his ISO is FULL of this. though he runs into rough patches...

reread tomorrow.. i've been kind of busy as of late... i said this before -- i work at a large grocer as bread stocker for a vendor. the 1st is coming, so I expect to be swamped.

also school giving me migraines.

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okay so reading over all of what les has said... it's very scummy if each post is taken bit by bit.

but taken as a whole in context... i'll have to say, with a small remark on how les needs to calm down a but and think his posts through (HEY MIST SOUND FAMILIAR? WINKWINKNUDGENUDGE), I will ultimately say the he is indeed town.

This. everytime les posted in singular scum vibes came off but when i ISO him he seemed town.

answer your question GMan?

i know it's weird but...

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UGH I've forgotten about this...

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I never saw that Hwag iso until after the les debocle.

AND WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN I SAID "I SHOULD VOTE LES"???

THE FUCK?

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that was at stefunny

i'm checking the post in question now

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I was talking about the hammer...

it was bad to say the least but again i'll say it: taken as themselves Les's posts are scummy but when you read the ISO he's town.

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in singular out of context, each of les's posts are scummy but, when you put them into context of how the game progress hes town.

i hope that made alot more sense... anything else scummy about my play stef?

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as well i didn't put read up yet and i was meaning to.

as a apology here they come VVV

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I need to take a better look at inspira, dys, and mist.

last time i gave something good i think gave all 3 nullish reads... UNVOTE:
so that way my head is clear...

Inspria:
What in god's name is wrong with this ISO? lotta fluff and discussion. noting that at the beginning you vote hopped alot. more than a few times really... is this wagon following?

HELL look at his reads! D1: Null, Null, Null, Town, Null, Null, Null Null? (not in that order mind you.) Why the in decisiveness? and then voting Hwag in 2 posts!!! WTH?

D2: he puts his vote on Les

AND HAS YET TO PULL IT OFF

jesus, are you just GOING for the easy lynch?

Read: scum. I expected to see a town read here BUT LO AND BEHOLD

Next: Mist.

GOD I get weird vibes here D1. first 5 posts, okay not so bad the odd stuff comes at ISO post 9.
She Votes Nacho wanting a claim then unvotes saying it was a joke... not bad really, since it was in the same post, but a raised eyebrow here.
AND THEN, AFTER EXPLAINING WHY SHE

DIDN'T

WANT TO VOTE NACHO, SHE VOTES HIM AGAIN 2 POSTS LATER AND UNVOTES HIM HER NEXT POST... wat?
Cop outing thing happens then she gets on the les wagon WITHOUT TELLING US WHY HE'S SCUM. honestly the entire time she was on that wagon she just CORRECTED him. Not once, NOT. ONCE. Does she make a case. AND THEN GOES RIGHT BACK ON NACHO THINKING HE'S SCUM WITHOUT VOTING HIM, AFTER HE VOTES ME? forget the weird vibes, this is another scum slot in the making folks.
CLAIMS that she doesn't see my cases AFTER MENTIONING I'M USING META ON HER THERE. NICE. TRY. revotes nacho, for a crap reason, and rides that out until the end of the day. YE. GODS.

D2: fluffflufffluff OHAIGMAN and then reads. has a town read on me and inspire but then changes it to null... what have you done today?

Read: scum

Finally: Dys

...... what is there to comment on? i've been thinking this guy is lurkyscum.. what got me on him was his lack of posting and his vote hop from nacho to Hwag... but reading over everything, his posts arn't as fluffy as say mist's or inspria... reads look fine. gives out detail with them.

Yeah.. with a "my bad" I'm going to do a 180 and say he's town-to-null. the null is there because a don't see him actively pursuing scum rather just defending himself...

and with those three done. i'll do the others later on tonite.

but think today is a inspria or mist lynch.

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I'm trying not to get ahead of myself..

and note that YES I get on them for being on a wagon i supported. A)That's not the only reason i think them as scum.. or do you lot read? B) i created that case. I had a reason. neither of them commented on that case or said anything about it. they just voted and thats it. therefore i'm thinking sheepyscum.

C) I SAID LATER. MEANING THIS AFTERNOON. as I said, I'm going to take all my reads as a whole and then vote.. like i did last time (page 9)

D) and why should we mention them? do we want scum to find them? I think that the more you mention a PR the more likly he'll slip up. I think it's best to let the subject be and they will claim when they feel like it/when they need to/when we want them to.

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at school.

reads later.

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I had a dream last night where i had a mustache..... a weird one...

anyway.

Les/Gman: I think thats right?

My read on les stands. noob town. i don't see scum making this ISO i really don't. it's hard describe because his ISO is hard to read but dudes town yo.

Gman: out he gate he shows that he catches up... but i notice he zeroes in on me around... page 9... hes asks questions for the rest of the ISO... do you have any other reads?

Read: Town. <SHOCKER I KNOW.

next on is perry... but did he get replaced? AHH YES stefunny

might need to update the OP mod.

anyway ill start with perry who apparently posted from a phone most of the game. his ISO page 2 has most of his content...

I get a big fat null... some scum lines some town lines... nothing big either way but then again He's just in the back not doing anything.. i'm glad he got replaced

and stefunny is just tunneling me. with a reason but still any other suspects? come on.

Read: nully null.

ON TO TEH IC: nacho/THE HOUSE OF PAIN.

I get some feeling of disinterest here from nacho. but then again his ISO IS full of content so there's one on me :/

most notable thing is his vote hop onto Les. Did he ever state why? but in other news hes been giving out reason otherwise scumhunting and persueing questions

I get more of the same from UP.. but more involved. so yeah.

Read: town

... okay and with that. VOTE: inspira

it's mist or inspira. pick one.

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okay then on the subject of Gman and perry: Are they scum? if not... WHY IN THE WORLD DO YOU HAVE YOUR VOTE ON THEM? If so.. why? and you better have a damned good reason.

and your null defense.... PAHAHAHAHAH come on. there are simple 3 options. town, null, and scum. you being so liberal with the use of null makes me think that you are not going to commit to ANY lynch of your own. this tells me that your just gonna sheep the main wagons.

Can we please not mislynch today. Sheepy scum is sheepy

[Kcdaspot]

ispira has not taken their vote off of gman.

i made a mistake

[Kcdaspot]

i was scum hunting as a townie.

thought i'd get some credibility.

[Kcdaspot]

if mist just hung back more i think we'd have a shot.

oh well.

i suck so hard as scum.

[Kcdaspot]

Procrastination.

It's a scum tell