Mini 1113 - Brotherhood of the Wolf Mafia

[Untrod Tripod]

@UT: I know my play wasn't stellar and I made mistakes, but I don't think you can sit here and tell me your play was perfect either. LL's, on the other hand, was pretty beautiful.

Your play was good. Do you know what "glass houses" means? I'm saying that you shouldn't be calling me stupid, not that I'm perfect. I played pretty poorly for most of the game, imo.

Mariyta played an amazing scum game. LLD showed her true colors in the end game, but it was a lot harder to see from a 3rd perspective than from mine.

For the comments about me playing well, I think I played a pretty poor game because I failed to convince anyone of anything other than that Zang was a worthy lynch (and the first one was Mariyta, and her liking it was what got the wagon rolling, I think). I played pretty rationally at the end, yeah, but AGM didn't pick my case so as far as mafia goes, I failed in the endgame.

@UK, to answer your comment in the QT, yeah it was in reference to the Chewbacca defense.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

BTW, I think my Mina NK was a stroke of genius BTW. I think it's what won me the game.

Edit: I'm kinda shit at Mafia UK :S Just sayin', I have a tendency to... Be unable to express my logic clearly.

[UncertainKitten]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

And you're being hard on yourself. You started really badly, yes. But it's kinda mean to continue lambasting you as you improved. That's basically saying "YOU WILL NEVER BE GOOD EVER SO WE HATE YOU". And what the hell does that breed? More of the VIs we get that are proud of it. So, no, I'd rather go with, good job improving as the game went on, now keep it up.

@LLD: Hey, my logic is rarely clear but I do decently. I'm certainly not AMAZING, but I don't think myself terrible.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

UT, you will take that back. Your end game is deserving of praise. Even if you did not win, it was fucking outstanding.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But UK, honestly I don't have any of the skills that you or Fate or [insert name here] have.

I'm pretty damn average, and I am lucky to have a perfect record xD

(Though... I seen to have an affinity for SK games. I do well in those... And yes I'm counting this as an SK game because my partners were dead by the time I came in)

[UncertainKitten]

My skills are looking town and occasionally avoiding a lynch that by all rights should have happened. I'm not amazingly great at scumhunting, and I'm only persuasive when I'm wrong. I'm beginning to think if a wagon I start gets off the ground, I should clear them as town :V.

[MagnaofIllusion]

From a spoiled perspective I have to agree with LLD. I would pretty clearly say Untrod outplayed LLD by a pretty wide margin on Day 5. He just forgot to appeal to AGM's ego

[GreyICE]

We correctly deduced that Katsuki had jailkept AGM? Where? Zang was telling us nothing! We figured he was going to kill Zang overnight, and had told him the SC bullshit to make him feel good about it. As for the Janitor shit, fuck Zang, he was never going to use that. He forgot about it day 1. None of you would have guessed HavingFitz was town, I am so sure of that.

Seriously, AGM, town, there's some reasons I didn't want that thread shared, we were enormous assholes in there. Would have rather had it be super secret tech, but... really, I just didn't wanna reveal what jerks we were after we were finally starting to get along. Hell, y'all can guess how smart the AGM shot was from how it turned out. Yay, I'm a genius! *snort*

LLD - how the hell did you cue I was playing the same scum game as UK? UK never even called me on it! I was just like... huh? And it was an offhand comment. That's crazy-good instincts, period. Your logic is... uh... well, if you work on it, your logic will work itself out eventually. You always seem to walk halfway there and then get pulled off course by something. That comment to you I've wanted to apologize for for a while, that was pure distancing. I didn't mean it, sowweeeeeeee.

UT... uh... basically everything I said about you on day 3 was true. You picked up your game a lot, despite being our designated mislynch, and you really were looking good by the end. A lot of my frustration with you was totally feigned, and that shitfit on day 2 was entirely scum nonsense. I've seen MUCH worse from town, but I was playing a part there.

Believe it or not, I actually came out of this with an okay opinion of CooLDoG - he was frustrating as shit, but he's smarter than he looks. I was giving him 10 to 1 on shooting UK right off the bat on day 1, and he didn't. I had that pump primed and everything. His play picked up on day 2 as well, I kinda wanted to see where it would go, but... err... power role, you know the drill.

Mari and LLD both played a fucking excellent game. Mari... I miss you. LLD... you made me miss Mari less. You were both awesome! LLD, I enjoyed watching that.

Everyone else - I spent most of the time lying my ass off, sorry.

Fate/SpyreX - good replacements. I like the cast we ended with!

[Katsuki]

^This

P-EDIT: WHAT MOI SAID

UT was playing great D5 until that abrasive bit late in the day.
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I thought AGM would be able to pull a furry though.

[UncertainKitten]

@MoI: Re: Replacements: If you didn't know, I did a lot of replacement digging for you because I wanted to make the game fun instead of the trudging trainwreck it started as. So I called in some big ticket names to push this game to awesome. They can tell you who they were if they feel like. Some are probably more obvious than others.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

From a spoiled perspective I have to agree with LLD. I would pretty clearly say Untrod outplayed LLD by a pretty wide margin on Day 5. He just forgot to appeal to AGM's ego

Be fair. Had it been Fate with the hammer, my case against UT would have been different.

While UT's play was great for overall town appearance and argument... The reason my case won was because it was designed for AGM, and I had been preparing it since day 3.

[UncertainKitten]

@GI: Well, the thing is, my scum game/town game RAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEE don't look that different. That said, the SK bullshit REALLY should have clued me in.

Well, lemme rephrase that. They probably do look different, I just haven't figured out how yet. If I had to guess it's sincerity. You did better at faking the sincerity than I do.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@GreyICE: Your play mirrored scum!UK in Higurashi mafia. I know because I was an SK in that game.

UK claimed scum that game to try and get me (SK) lynched.

So many comparisons to draw.

[UncertainKitten]

Probably should have worked but town flubbed it. They weren't really considering it logically. To be fair, I was also burnt anyway between the block and the tracking flub thanks to enemy mine.

In Higu I mean.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

One thing I should mention: I have Photogeaphic memory.

So I was immediately able to draw he comparison by looking back through my internal of folders of games.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ebwop: photographic

[Katsuki]

I want photographic memory.

[Katsuki]

Also, just remembered, LLD's record should be 6-1

albeit with a giant asterisk for mod-intervention lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Katsuki, I refuse to count OoT. That game was removed from record because of Mod Douchebaggery.

[GreyICE]

@GI: Well, the thing is, my scum game/town game RAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEE don't look that different. That said, the SK bullshit REALLY should have clued me in.

Awww, but it was designed for you. I'd been mulling it forever since I saw that had happen to you from both sides of the equation. Totally might have gotten away with it if SpyreX/Fate hadn't replaced in.

<- Should really remember that his instincts are good for scumhunting, not playing scum.

Also bad ideas are... uh... really bad, no matter how epically funny they are to do. Life lessons from scum

On the plus side, the next time you're an SK and scum claim to out you you have a game to reference for scum thinking it's really funny to do against you!

PEDIT: LLD... that is seriously awesome. But memory only takes you so far. You picked up on reasonably subtle cues that everyone else missed.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If I really wanted to, I'd call that game a town win (because it was) but I'll let he mid have his super hammer, and I just wont count that game.

[UncertainKitten]

Hahaha, totally. Though I have other tools for winning as SK~. Maybe a few...Kitten Miracles :3? Such as ways to get past two role cops in 1 v. 1s?

[GreyICE]

Um, I wish I had cool things to say about other things, but... I am not fond of playing scum when there's no other team to hunt. I really was stressed and on edge in this game much more so then any town game I've ever been in. A lot of that anger and stuff was fueled by actual stress. When I could scumhunt AND was scum, it was kinda like being masons with a night kill, only there was no real stress to the scumhunting - I could be kinda shitty about it, just lowered my chance of being NKed.

PEDIT: LOL, yeah, I enjoyed that one.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Grey: UK has no problem escaping lynches as SK.

Edit: cut by UK LOL

[AlmasterGM]

One thing I should mention: I have Photogeaphic memory.

So I was immediately able to draw he comparison by looking back through my internal of folders of games.

Wait, really?

That's fucking awesome.