I like what is behind door number two, and I'm anxious to learn what door number ones yet hides. Though I think I can guess.
By the way, you answered one of the bad points I was referring to in my last post, but missed the other. Here it is.
I suppose that Zdenek means that the first paragraph suggests there being two scumteams, otherwise there is no point to any of this. Of course, the first paragraph is completely correct. I think I saw Jack say it best in another game... It is sound scumhunting to suspect someone and also suspect someone else who is attacking them in a suspicious way. It can be bussing, or you can be wrong about one of them. Neither of these possibilities require two scum teams.
Vote: Zdenek
There was his attack on Magua, yes. I found it scummy when he started it, and still found it scummy when it kept dragging on. There were also his interactions with DGB, especially this one.
DGB gave GreyICE a town read and asked him to be vigged at the same time. She was berated for that by diddin, but he never voted her, despite saying he was. Then the above comment really struck me as strange. DGB is indeed well known, but saying her opinion would be influential is an exaggeration. I have known her reads to be erratic, and I've heard some unfavorable descriptions of her play. There is no way I'd expect a vigilante to kill someone at her recommendation, particularly not a town read, and diddin thinking so was weird.
I've said what the reason was for not pushing this any further. I found diddin and zoraster scummy, but by the time I'd finished I'd noticed what I considered better cases, Raivann and DGB. I left my weaker suspects alone and focused on my better ones.
Oh great. What I really hate about this "tell" is that according to it it is scummy to have correct suspicions if those suspicions are not strong enough for you to make a case and vote. Look at Benmage for instance. He has named a number of suspects, but he has not provided reasoning for most of them, nor has he voted them all. If one of them flips scum, will that make Benmage scummy? No, it does not.
And you accuse me of flailing.
I've answered your posts point by point, and you answer me with ...this. You seriously disappoint me. Shouting in all caps is not making you the least bit more credible, you're just making yourself look more and more foolish when I eventually flip. I especially hate how you accuse me of twisting your words, since the core of your case on me is about
you
twisting
my
words in an incomprehensible manner.
If you won't, I will.
Feysal [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=2799125#p2799125]#538[/url] wrote:I had a look back at what DGB did at the start of the thread. She posted her first list of reads fairly early, though it was after Locke had called her out for not doing it. She then gave Locke a scum read. She left out LynchMePls from her first scum list, MoI noticed she was still voting him, and she added him to her scum list in her next post. Oddly, she mentioned that hasdgfas could be faking in both of her first lists, but it was not until Magua bet that he was faking that DGB moved hasdgfas to her scum list and began to push him.
And get this: throughout the game, despite pushing for hasdgfas, DGB always kept her original random-stage vote on LynchMePls, who she never tried to push. Only now she moved her vote to Locke, and between him and zoraster, I'm more confident of Locke being town.
This is where, according to you, I said that I had a town read on Locke based on his interactions with DGB and zoraster. Let me walk you through this simple exercise in reading comprehension.
"I had a look back at what DGB did..." This should be your first clue. I'm talking about DGB and why she is scummy. I am not talking about why anyone else would be town or scummy. See? In the first paragraph I also mention how Locke called out DGB and how DGB gave him a scum read. There is nothing yet about what my read on Locke is, or why.
The second paragraph starts with more about DGB. I'm still talking about what makes her scummy. See? There is nothing about Locke in that first sentence, so we're only interested in the second. "Only now she moved her vote to Locke, and between him and zoraster, I'm more confident of Locke being town." The start says nothing about my read of Locke, only that DGB moved her vote to him, with the implication that this is scummy, since she delayed so long to do it. The remainder is the first time I say anything about my read on Locke. I say that between him and zoraster, I'm more confident of Locke being town, the implication being that DGB is scummy for voting specifically Locke. As Locke himself pointed out, zoraster has nothing to do with this really, he had just stuck in my mind with Locke. Anyway, all I'm really saying about Locke is that he is more likely town than zoraster. There is absolutely nothing there about my reason why.
So.
Where the hell do you see me saying that my town read on Locke would be based on interaction with DGB or zoraster?
This is what I told you had to prove, and you oh so eloquently said that you already had. You have not.
No. I've matched you point by point, while you have been increasingly resorting to rhetoric, shouting in all caps, appealing to the mob, and just plain dodging my points by repeatedly saying I am lying. Stop, calm down, and see if you can reply to me in a rational manner for a change.
Fact remains, your case is based on a failure of reading comprehension on your part. I have never said what you claim that I did.
Oh, and one more thing. I expect that this will end either in my lynch or you killing me tomorrow night. When that happens, I will require a personal apology from you. Just you. Before that, don't you dare "buddy" me.
At the time there was talk about how to get rid of the governor power, and suggestions had been made to give it to GreyICE (unacceptable) or engineer a draw in votes (impractical). Xtoxm had the best practical solution of giving the power to the day's lynch, so I pointed out. What, do you expect me to guess based on a single post that he would flip scum?
Preview edit: the posts just keep coming... I'll just post this now and not make this wall any longer than it already is.
