Mafia 126 - Lovers Mafia! [Game Over]

[Antihero]

And what did you want kise to explain about the animation?

P.Edit - Well, what are these "issues" vezok was talking about?

[Mist7676]

That is for me to know and you to find out.

[Mist7676]

I asked for an explanation because that is all he posted. Was it supposed to mean something or was it just random?

[Tragedy]

This game was an actual Large Normal Mafia Game?... Didn't really care to notice that part..
...

Vote: vezokpiraka

A definite understanding is

required

. He's been flying under the radar for a

long time

... (Maybe the other guy's partner, but..)

vezokpiraka - 6 (Nero Cain, Emptyger, Purple Orange, Mariyta, xRECKONERx, Tragedy)
Tragedy - 4 (dramonic, Werewolf555, Espeonage, vezokpiraka)
dramonic - 2 (Antihero, GreyICE)

Not Voting - 8

Vezokpiraka is at L-4
Tragedy is at L-6
dramonic is at L-8

There are currently

18 Players

alive, it requires 10 votes to lynch.

@MIST: Every vote requires a reasonable explanation, behind it, you know...

[Antihero]

That is for me to know and you to find out.

I'm expecting something good, then.

Really good (i.e. - an analysis of every player in a category of "town," "scum," or "neutral")

[Tragedy]

That is for me to know and you to find out.

I'm expecting something good, then.

Really good (i.e. - an analysis of every player in a category of "town," "scum," or "neutral" along with reasonable explanations of why the person is obviously Town/Scum/Neutral)

[Kise]

Vote Esp QWICK, b4 Purp come bakk .

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Not sure if vezok means

how

everyone stands, or

where

. If how, then it read more like "how everyone reacts." The word where would've made more sense. I'm not liking his unvote and revote on the same page after he finds out others are willing to lynch Tragedy. There's also no real reason not to tell everyone what the disagreement supposedly is in the lover QT. If you have differing opinions, then that's that. It's nothing to hide.

That is for me to know and you to find out.

So vez is making a case? You can still tease us by giving your side of this argument. But I'll lend vez my

ears

eyes.

[EmpTyger]

Reckoner:

Still waiting to hear how this doesn't describe what *you* did. What was "new" when you changed your mind?

Uh, what exactly are you referencing here?

I'm referencing the part that you snipped out:

Flip flopping wouldn't be scummy had he not been adamant about one of me/Kise being a liar for the past forty pages.

Because no NEW arguments have been made and you changed your mind.

Still waiting to hear how this doesn't describe what *you* did. What was "new" when you changed your mind?

*You* were adamant about one of you/Kise being a liar.
As far as I can see, no NEW arguments were made when *you* changed your mind.

So, which is it?
1) Was there something NEW when you changed your mind?
2) Are you scummy for flip flopping, per your own reasoning?
3) Or were you simply pushing false logic against me?

[Llamarble]

I reread Espy & PO. Espy's "I don't want to derail my own wagon" referred to KCD. That statement makes a lot of sense to me from the perspective of scum not wanting to be the one derailing the lynch on his buddy. Particularly since 3 minutes later he points out the day is super young.
Scum thought process: I don't want to lynch KCD and I am ready to go attack someone else, but his scumflip will make me look bad if I start my counterwagon now. But it's only 5 days in, so this wagon won't last, and I can wait for it to self-dissolve naturally instead.
Town thought process: I can't see one. Not posting suspicion because it might compete with your other suspicion doesn't make sense.

Their subsequent record on kcd isn't great either. PO votes the pair briefly D2 while saying he thinks BS has been very townish and he may be simply getting confused by KCD's randomness. Then he joins Espy on the Mariyta counterwagon. Espy's facepalm barrage near the end of KCD's life may have been "I can't believe these townies are lynching my buddy without even noticing they're a hammer"

And of course the PO/Esp pair wouldn't surprise me as wolves either, which is a nice bonus. And there was PO's leadoff wifommish "I forgot setup information I discussed in the signup thread."

VOTE: Espeonage
They were also a recent scumread of Ash in our QT; I like that as well.

[xRECKONERx]

@EmpTyger: HOLY SHIT YOU'RE STILL GOING ON ABOUT THIS. No, nothing "new" changed my mind. But I was the one being attacked, therefore I'm naturally going to have a more visceral response response to being called a liar. After I calmed down, I was able to see things from a new perspective. You don't get to use that reasoning.

[vezokpiraka]

Expect two big posts from me in about 5 hours.

One with all my reads and one with a case on tragedy.

[Nero Cain]

To be fair to Vezo my original vote on him was b/c Tragedy had posted something that showed him/his pair off the KCD wagon. But alot of Mist and Vezo's post read fluffy and there was Mists "YAY WE LYNCHED SCUM!!!" which looks alot like the well that(s)

sucks

good tell so my vote stands.

Still not a big fan of Espy at all.

[xRECKONERx]

Mod, is it against the rules if I force dramonic to catch up and post content while he's here (he's staying with me for 15 days)?

I mean, I can do it. As I stated in another thread, I can withhold certain things from him until he agrees.

PS, Kise is also coming down here for a few days while dramonic is here, but I'm assuming it's not an issue so long as we don't discuss the ongoings of the game. My talk with dramonic will only serve as a real-life prod. I'll literally poke him, even.

[Espeonage]

Cattle Prod would be closer to what happens in the site seeing as they are called prods.

[xRECKONERx]

I just realized how not-in-love I am with this game anymore.

I loved it at first. Active discussion! Convincing cases! EmpTyger acting like an idiot!

Now it's just EmpTyger acting like an idiot. And a mod that is all but gone.

[Mariyta]

This is dead. The only people that post here at least once a day ar Tragedy, Mariyata, Vezok, Grey, Espeonage, and myself. Sens even left us. We need to get replacements. Prods aren't going to fucking work because the od is gone. If this doesn't happen I'm getting a List Mod to shut it down. The deadline is Thursday for at least 80% of the people to post.

Hey

MISTY

, you may be posting, but you haven't posted a single bit of content since you joined. Posting shit doesn't help the game at all.

That is for me to know and you to find out.

This is bullshit. If you comment in game about something, you damn well better explain. I'm getting tired of the coy shit. Do something or die.

@Llamarble: While I agree that Esp is scum, basing your case on the "I don't want to derail my own wagon" is bullshit. No one would say that seriously. It was a joke (and if it wasn't, Esp needs to rethink his game).

I'm about done with this game. I really don't care anymore. I don't want to keep playing and replacing is pointless.

[Tragedy]

@Vezok: 5 Hours past quite quickly. Zzz.

[Mariyta]

@Vezok: 5 Hours past quite quickly. Zzz.

Oh yeah, I forgot to point that out. Thanks for reminding me. Vezok, where's your lovely big contentful post you promised?

[vezokpiraka]

It's coming after I play with my father.

Although I may do the reads post now and then the case on tragedy after playing.

[Mist7676]

Guys that was a private lover chat.

Private

[vezokpiraka]

Reck-Nero - A big fat town read. I don't think I ever found Reck scummy. This is the towniest town here.
Dram-Werewolf- Oh God. Dram is town , but werewolf... It's too much for me. Neutral.
Emptyger-thingyman- Tiger is just fooling around. I really think he is scum coupled with thingys responses during day one this is team is my second biggest scum read.
GreyICE-Antihero- At first ICE was scummy. I thought he was scum. This changed during day 2 and 3 and now he is a town read for me.
DarlaBlueEyes-Ashblade- Third scum read. I am ok lynching them today. Although since ashblade replaced this is getting better.
Mariyta-Tragedy- TOP scum pick. Mainly because of Tragedy. I'll elaborate when I post a case.
PO- Espe- Eh. Neutral. I can't read espe and PO is sometimes scummy sometimes town.
Kise- PrayPiotr- Kise seems townish neutral for now. Piotr didn't do anything yet iirc. Neutral.


These are all my reads. I posted them here first.

@Misty: Tell me in the QT what do you think about them.

My case on tragedy is next.

[Tragedy]

I don't think you could actually read, could you...

[Mist7676]

Grrrr there is that misty again

[Mariyta]

Grrrr there is that misty again

You stop calling me Mariyata, I'll stop calling you Misty.

[Mist7676]

Mariyta . There ya happy??