Open 288 - Mayo Clinic (Game Over!)

[andrew94]

i dont know whether i should say this or not, but i get the feeling empking is softclaiming vig.

[Chocolate Cake]

I'm inclined to agree with pacman. I think mafia probably tried to kill Kage and failed, so they realize that the only way for them to get rid of him is to get him lynched. However, this could point to SKage. (I'm kind or ruling out mafiaKage at this point; if he's mafia, he's getting bussed, hard)

Actually, now that I think on it, did anyone protect Kage last night? I didn't, and I'm one of very few people who thought he's town. pac, did you?

CC; Do you buy the two vig claims?

I believe Kage (or, I believ

ed

), and that's because I thought he acted townish.
I believe andrew's because he kind of came out of nowhere with it (not something SK or mafia would do).
I'm believe andrew's claim more for precisely the reason Rain gave; andrew gave us his role voluntarily while Kage did it near or at L1 (I don't remember).

i dont know whether i should say this or not, but i get the feeling empking is softclaiming vig.

Yeah, you should have gone with not.

[aaah400]

we lynch kagetora or mrbump 2day gg

[Kagetora]

Sigh, sorry long post. My stuff in bold or out of quotes obviously. Also please don't slam me for what might look like a conspiracy theory, because honestly if no one is claiming to have protected me, it makes sense.

"Actually"

Saying that actually tbh, I think you're the SK. The other two I could see as buddies for the sole reason aaah calls me out on "Bitch, Please" but not Wizrak's constant swearing.

So this has nothing to do with me?

Surprised you're still alive 'cuz you got shot and you're the SK yo

Wrong.

Why not shoot Pac, then? Or, seeing how I "blatantly wagonned", why not shoot someone who jumped on the wagon then jumped off, unlike me who stayed until basically the very, very end?

Frankly because of everyone who really hammered into me, I felt you were the most scummy and also because you annoy me the most.

No one's come out with a MrBump protect yet (vatesi's the only one who hasn't had the chance). I assume from this that

a) Kage is lying.

Nope.

or
b) MrBump is scum and Mafia doc doesn't want to claim the save
or
c) MrBump is SK

More likely of the two options that I know can be spoken for.

One of them needs to be the lynch today if this is true, so pipe up if the assumption is wrong.

Look guys, you're gonna call me crazy I know, but this is honestly what I think probably happened, given what I know.
I shot at MrBump and he didn't die because he's bulletproof, since no one has claimed to have protected him.
At the same time, Andrew claimed to have shot at me, and I didn't die. I'm not the SK, so someone protected me. If no one claims they protected me then it probably means the MafiaDoc protected me.
Now you're probably thinking "this guy is retarded" by now, but. Look at it from their view.
I openly claimed vig to the world, and they know I'm not actually mafia. It's likely the other vig is gonna kill me at night, and they're not going to because people think I'm one of them. Now, to reinforce that idea, they save me. I look more scum, and (assuming my lynch) another town PR is gone.
Everyone accusing me of being maf using this as evidence is merely feeding this theory, and if you lynch me, you'll prove I'm not just a crazy conspiracy theorist.

i dont think i found this but IF kagetora was vigilante?SK? he shouldve shot someone?

I did. MrBump.

Ok, sense nobody came out saying that they protected kage, it is reasonable that kage is the Sk / mafia protected by doctor

i am a vig and i shot kage last night.

Hm. If you're telling the truth, that means DLG

wasn't

a vig kill. That means either a) someone wanted to keep DLG from posting or b) the SK was going for mafia. I find b more likely.

Hey Kage, is this the "information" you're talking about? Now we've got some to analyze.

Somewhat. I was talking more about the convoluted situation regarding MrBump and I and other situations where claims can be made, and while I agree that is useful, I'm a little more interested in ensuring the town doesn't make a big mistake right now by killing me.

Well, I think all of the players are townie EXCEPT - Kage, MrBump
(I know I am missing one, but I dont really get who during day 1)
So I just did emininiminimo to choose who to heal

Missing two. 3 maf plus 1 sk makes 4 non-townies. Possible scumslip?

Kage: Please list all the players in these three groups; Town, Null, Scum.

Sorry I haven't been paying quite as close of attention to the other people and the only person I have a strong feeling about one way or the other is MrBump being scum.

So... lynch Kage? If he's scum, GG. If he's vig, MrBump and Andrew get lynched.

I'm not entirely sure why you'd lynch Andrew based on this, because he (as I'm sure others do) felt that I was scum. So if you lynch me, at which point I flip vig, you still have nothing on Andrew.

I'm inclined to agree with pacman. I think mafia probably tried to kill Kage and failed, so they realize that the only way for them to get rid of him is to get him lynched. However, this could point to SKage. (I'm kind or ruling out mafiaKage at this point; if he's mafia, he's getting bussed, hard)

Actually, now that I think on it, did anyone protect Kage last night? I didn't, and I'm one of very few people who thought he's town. pac, did you?

If you read above you'll get my take on why no one is claiming to have saved me.

CC; Do you buy the two vig claims?

I believe Kage (or, I believ

ed

), and that's because I thought he acted townish.
I believe andrew's because he kind of came out of nowhere with it (not something SK or mafia would do).
I'm believe andrew's claim more for precisely the reason Rain gave; andrew gave us his role voluntarily while Kage did it near or at L1 (I don't remember).

I'm pretty sure it was L2, but the exact number escapes me.

i dont know whether i should say this or not, but i get the feeling empking is softclaiming vig.

Yeah, you should have gone with not.

agreed, though if he is he should come out and say it.

[Empking]

i dont know whether i should say this or not, but i get the feeling empking is softclaiming vig.

Thank you for that.

Yes, I'm the second vig. Kage do you want to claim SK or be lynched?

(Also can I propose a plan. The Docs exclusively protect me or Andrew with each doc flipping a coin (heads for me, tails for Andrew) for who to protect. In all honesty there's nobody else scum would like to hit.)

[MrBump]

Sorry I haven't been paying quite as close of attention to the other people and the only person I have a strong feeling about one way or the other is MrBump being scum.

ITT Kage claims scum.

@Everyone else calling Kage ObvScum, why do you think that?

Also he couldn't think of a way he survived which didn't ConfScum him as he's Bulletproof/MafDoc protected so he just said "OH YEAH MAF DOC PROTECTED ME"

Think that through for a second. Who do you believe the scum are? You believe I'm one. I'm almost certain Pac, Cake and Rain are town. Out of the remaining people, chances say Wizrak/aaah should be at least one of the scum, right? People like that, who the Vigs were supposedly aiming for. So the Mafia would keep you alive because it makes you easier to lynch because they know you're town rather than just protect one of their scumbuddies who is likely to be a target? Really, that theory of yours SCREAMS SK.

[evilpacman18]

Bump isn't SK. No doc has outed himself about protecting Bump because the scum doc protected Bump and that would be playing against their wincon basically. What does interest me is that the doc chose Bump over someone scummier. Vatesi/Empking gets town points.

[MrBump]

Or Kage didn't attempt to kill me? He's set me up pretty badly right now.

[Chocolate Cake]

Sigh, sorry long post. My stuff in bold or out of quotes obviously. Also please don't slam me for what might look like a conspiracy theory, because honestly if no one is claiming to have protected me, it makes sense.

If no one protected you and you didn't die, that means you're scum. I guess DLG could've protected you, though (you're a good kind of default target for a replacement).

Or Kage didn't attempt to kill me? He's set me up pretty badly right now.

Doubt it

VOTE: Kagetora

Now I'm a little paranoid about andrew's claim, I know his reputation in that department, but for now, I'm going to trust it. andrew, if you're gambiting town, please come clean now. If not, everyone's next post needs to include a vote for kage or a good alternative.

[evilpacman18]

Obviously some doc would protect Kage, he's a claimed vig.

[andrew94]

i was gonna say if there wasnt a 3rd vig claim, then wasa could have protected kage(and kage be vig)

but i had a feeling empking was s claiming with his random words and he DID claim so yea kage is prob the Sk/ mafia protected by the doc.

also, kage that thing were u said mafia doc protected you was ridiculous, so hypothetically, they would let you live and not protect their own>? = =

also, should we leave the Sk alive?

[Empking]

also, should we leave the Sk alive?

I say that if they agree to kill aaah they can live.

[evilpacman18]

Can we get a vote count?

[Olinea]

Blah, knew I was forgetting something.

Vote Count 2.01

[3] Kagetora - MrBump, Rain, Chocolate Cake
[3] MrBump - aaah400, wizrak, evilpacman18

[4] Not Voting - andrew94, Empking, Kagetora, Klazam

Deadline is set for March 17th.

[MrBump]

Hey look guys, fun fact. If everyone voting for me votes Kage, Kage gets lynched!

[Rain]

Well, Kage is definitely flailing with his supposed mafia doc protection.

scum doc protected Bump and that would be playing against their wincon

I'm confused. Why would that be against scum's wincon? I thought a scum doc ought to protect his goons from vig/SK's NK?

[wizrak]

@MrBump
I know dat, but I think ur scum not him
(smiles*) I mean srsly look at ur post #539, you dont have to keep on reinforcing it u know

[evilpacman18]

Well, Kage is definitely flailing with his supposed mafia doc protection.

scum doc protected Bump and that would be playing against their wincon

I'm confused. Why would that be against scum's wincon? I thought a scum doc ought to protect his goons from vig/SK's NK?

I'm saying the doctor who protected Bump outing themself would be playing against their wincon since they're the scum doc.

[evilpacman18]

Another fun fact. The three people in this game I respect the most right now are all on the Kage wagon and my respect is slowly being sapped.

[evilpacman18]

Will someone please explain to me how a Kage wagon makes any sense right now?

[Chocolate Cake]

Will someone please explain to me how a Kage wagon makes any sense right now?

There are 3 claimed vigs and only 2 of them can possibly be telling the truth.

What are you not getting here?

[evilpacman18]

I'm not getting who the third claimed vig is first of all. I see andrew and Kage.

[evilpacman18]

*goes back to read*

[evilpacman18]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

unvote, vote: Kagetora

[andrew94]

lol ...

i thought we gonna keep him alive to kill aaah