Mafia 126 - Lovers Mafia! [Game Over]

[Mariyta]

Nope. Because you and vezok still haven't contributed a thing to the game.

[vezokpiraka]

So my last post is nothing?

Are you sure you read yourself and Tragedy in ISO?

[Antihero]

Reck-Nero - A big fat town read. I don't think I ever found Reck scummy. This is the towniest town here.
Dram-Werewolf- Oh God. Dram is town , but werewolf... It's too much for me. Neutral.
Emptyger-thingyman- Tiger is just fooling around. I really think he is scum coupled with thingys responses during day one this is team is my second biggest scum read.
GreyICE-Antihero- At first ICE was scummy. I thought he was scum. This changed during day 2 and 3 and now he is a town read for me.
DarlaBlueEyes-Ashblade- Third scum read. I am ok lynching them today. Although since ashblade replaced this is getting better.
Mariyta-Tragedy- TOP scum pick. Mainly because of Tragedy. I'll elaborate when I post a case.
PO- Espe- Eh. Neutral. I can't read espe and PO is sometimes scummy sometimes town.
Kise- PrayPiotr- Kise seems townish neutral for now. Piotr didn't do anything yet iirc. Neutral.

This is totally, totally lame, which is not at all unexpected, which is totally, totally lame.

@Misty: Tell me in the QT what do you think about them.

WHAT THE F@#$ WERE YOU YAMMERING ABOUT BEFORE?

Guys that was a private lover chat.

Private

Unless you're scum or you two are reenacting a porno in there, I don't see what you're hiding.

[Mariyta]

So my last post is nothing?

Are you sure you read yourself and Tragedy in ISO?

Yes, your last post was nothing. It was a bunch of crap reads with nothing to back them up. And no, I haven't read myself or Tragedy in ISO. Why would I? Why don't you read us both in ISO and come back with a legitimate case. Hell, I'll make a deal with you. If you come back before Monday with a legit case on both me and Tragedy that isn't a bunch of BS ripped off from someone else and looks like you actually put some serious thought into it, I'll vote myself.

[EmpTyger]

vezok:

DarlaBlueEyes-Ashblade- Third scum read. I am ok lynching them today. Although since ashblade replaced this is getting better.

Let's hear more about this one.
How did you come up with that read?
Why do you think DBE/Ashblade are guilty?
Why do you feel like Ashblade's getting better?


Everyone else (except Mist):
Let vezok respond. Or pressure him to answer. I want to hear something from *him*. (Or whoever helped him come up with that read.)


Reckoner:
You said behavior X is scummy, when you've done X yourself.
That's a perfectly reasonable observation for a townsperson to make. And it's perfectly reasonable for a townsperson to ask you to resolve this seeming contradiction.

What part of your reactions are reasonable for a townsperson to do?
* Initially trying to ignore the question.
* Trying to pass off a recent thing that just happened at the start of D3 (this contradiction) with an unrelated matter D1 that you know the town is tired of hearing about (the AIMlogs).
* Unrelated insults, which the mod has repeatedly warned you not to do. (most recently even explicitly using "you're an idiot" as an example)

*I* happen to think that there are good reasons to reevaluate. (Such as, you know, a player you thought was innocent flipping mafia.) But that's what *I* think.
What *you* said was that "it was scummy to flip flop" when no new arguments were made. After *you* flip flopped when no new arguments were made.

[For the record, this current matter counts as a new argument which is making me flip flop on you.]

(And this is the part where you say you're not going to respond to me, because you probably- rightly- think that the town isn't going to muster any kind of pressure on you to respond, and the easiest way to deal with a slip is to make sure it doesn't become a major topic of discussion.
Well, fine. You do that if you want.)

[xRECKONERx]

You're literally retarded. I don't know how to explain this.

1) You're obnoxious as fuck and tunneling on issues that don't matter (which MOST PEOPLE agree with me on), and playing with you is making me want to start screaming nasty things again that would get me modkilled, so I chose not to respond to you.
2) I said that changing your mind is scummy, but perhaps I didn't fully give the context of the situation. Changing your mind about a situation which does not involve you when no new developments have give you a reason to change your mind about the situation IS SCUMMY.
3) Actually, the mod explicitly told me "You're an idiot" and "Oh my god you're stupid" are fine, since he does that himself. He said "fucking cunt" and "twat" and "cunt rag" and stuff like that is not okay.

I didn't only mean "it's scummy to flip flop", I meant "it's scummy to flip flop in your position given reasoning xyz", but I thought it was obvious reasoning xyz was that you took a situation which you weren't directly affected by, and which most of town had agreed would be hindersome to continue talking about, and yet you

kept talking about it

... and you took a REALLY hardline stance on that issue... then suddenly were like "lol nvm".

And you flip flopped on me before this argument. All I wanted to know is what it was that made you flip flop on me. You saying "a player I thought was town flipped mafia" and that would've sufficed. Now you've dragged this out for pages more, because you're terrible, and this is what you do. How about go do some real scumhunting and come back later?

God, I'd be down for using one of those free lynches on EmpTyger/Thingyman just so I wouldn't have to

ignore

read Emp's posts anymore.

[xRECKONERx]

See: recent posts for why vezok is an acceptable lynch.

[Yaw]

Sorry about all the mod problems. Sens is currently unable to access the board (the same "Cannot Load this Page" crap that happened on and off over the past week or so), so I'll be taking over until we can get that fixed. (First job after posting this is PMing Flay to see if he has any idea what's going on with this.) I have it on authority that prods were sent this past week. If the access problem isn't fixed by Monday, I'll reprod and look for any needed replacements.

Vote Count:

dramonic: AntiHero, GreyICE
vezokpiraka: Nero Cain, EmpTyger, Purple Orange, Mariyta, xRECKONERx, Tragedy
Tragedy: dramonic, werewolf555, Espeonage, vezokpiraka
Espeonage: Llamarble

Not Voting: Ashblade, Mist7676, Kise, PrayPiotr, Thingyman

With 18 alive, it's 10 to lynch.

Deadline is March 22. If needed, it might be possible to extend it to make up for any festering activity issues. Just post as normal for now, and we'll work that kind of thing out once we're back to a full complement.

[Espeonage]

Is emp deliberately being distracting or is that just what he does?

[dramonic]

So apparently I misread the post i pointed out as a slip, I couldve sworn Tragedy mentionned PO and Esp being on both town wagon, yet it clearly says or...

Anyways,
To get back to the theory that kdcafail was bussed, the remaining living options (teamwise) are Reck, GreyICE, Tragedy, vezok, llamarble, kise.

I'm more than willing to write off Grey and Reck as obvtown. Seriously, those two are ridiculous.
Not seeing it from Kise
I am liking ashblade quite a bit currently.

Vezok/Mist and PO/Esp are a fuckin pain in the ass. Partner A seems pretty town, partner B is freakin scummy. If I have to bend myself to one of those lynches I'd rather it be Vezok/Mist though, because Esp is quite a scummy town from memories of playing with him.

Tragedy's last post just threw me for a loop. I do not see the town motive at all for saying she'll self-vote if Vezok makes a decent case (barring the fact its a riskless bet, considering vezok making a decent case is statistically impossible). On the other hand, if she were mafia it means giving up any hope for her team to win.

Anyways. There is a chance Vezok is scum, which I guess I'm going to HAVE to take because otherwise we're not headed anywhere, also because we have a few free lynch on the off-chance he's town, and he's going to be lynched before LyLo regardles. Wether it's now or later, he's one of those players you cannot keep alive close to a risky situation.

With any chance it'll get some of you back in the game, you people are being lazy (oh the irony!)

unvote
vote: vezok

Queue Werewolf echoing.

[Antihero]

So apparently I misread the post i pointed out as a slip, I couldve sworn Tragedy mentionned PO and Esp being on both town wagon, yet it clearly says or...

Anyways,
To get back to the theory that kdcafail was bussed, the remaining living options (teamwise) are Reck, GreyICE, Tragedy, vezok, llamarble, kise.

I'm more than willing to write off Grey and Reck as obvtown. Seriously, those two are ridiculous.
Not seeing it from Kise
I am liking ashblade quite a bit currently.

Vezok/Mist and PO/Esp are a fuckin pain in the ass. Partner A seems pretty town, partner B is freakin scummy. If I have to bend myself to one of those lynches I'd rather it be Vezok/Mist though, because Esp is quite a scummy town from memories of playing with him.

Tragedy's last post just threw me for a loop. I do not see the town motive at all for saying she'll self-vote if Vezok makes a decent case (barring the fact its a riskless bet, considering vezok making a decent case is statistically impossible). On the other hand, if she were mafia it means giving up any hope for her team to win.

Anyways. There is a chance Vezok is scum, which I guess I'm going to HAVE to take because otherwise we're not headed anywhere, also because we have a few free lynch on the off-chance he's town, and he's going to be lynched before LyLo regardles. Wether it's now or later, he's one of those players you cannot keep alive close to a risky situation.

With any chance it'll get some of you back in the game, you people are being lazy (oh the irony!)

unvote
vote: vezok

Queue Werewolf echoing.

*raspberry*

[xRECKONERx]

I'm going to HAVE to take because otherwise we're not headed anywhere, also because we have a few free lynch on the off-chance he's town, and he's going to be lynched before LyLo regardles. Wether it's now or later, he's one of those players you cannot keep alive close to a risky situation.

This. 100% this.

[GreyICE]

Gawd damn it. I was hoping to wait, but y'all had to send em to ground, didn't ya?

I don't have an xbox.

It appears I have different views on this matter than my lover.

We gotta talk this. Privately:))

unvote

in the meantime.

@Misty: Tell me in the QT what do you think about them.

MIST GTF INTO THE QUICKTOPIC SO THE SCUMTEAM CAN TALK TO YOU!

Yeah Vezok, believe it or not, I do actually sympathize with the partners they gave you. Snake the Flake wasn't great, but Mist's "goodposting" to me calling your team scum was amazing.

Also that read list? Not homegrown, and do you think it was mist's fine input that got him there?

[vezokpiraka]

Actually I posted the read list in the QT after I posted it in the thread.
Why should I bother making a tragedy case?

You'll still lynch me today because there no freaking NKes so when we find someone scummy we lynch them.

[Antihero]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: vezokpiraka

[Espeonage]

You'll still lynch me today because there no freaking NKes so when we find someone scummy we lynch them.

The worst thing about this post is that it's true. Also adding that to what reck (I think it was reck) said earlier about just choosing a couple of lynches and running with them for a bit actually makes sense at this point in the game.

Unvote, Vote: vezok

[xRECKONERx]

Kise originally suggested it, I expanded on it... but I'll take the credit for it all the same.

[Kise]

Vote: vezok

FLACKA!

[Mariyta]

Tragedy's

Mari's last post just threw me for a loop. I do not see the town motive at all for saying she'll self-vote if Vezok makes a decent case (

barring the fact its a riskless bet, considering vezok making a decent case is statistically impossible

). On the other hand, if she were mafia it means giving up any hope for her team to win.

Mariyta-Tragedy- TOP scum pick. Mainly because of Tragedy. I'll elaborate when I post a case.
...
My case on tragedy is next.

Why should I bother making a tragedy case?

I literally laughed out loud. Well, more like giggled insanely for a few minutes. I knew it wouldn't happen. He's useless. And Mist is no better. I swear, Mist is the worst player I've ever played with, and I've played with some shitty players.

[Tragedy]

I still thought Vezok was going to still make a case on myself. Sigh.

I guess the only thought I can think of now is that we're all going to end up lynching a scum team by accident again.

[dramonic]

...lynching a scumteam by... accident?

[Tragedy]

...lynching a scumteam by... accident?

That did happen with kcdaspot, right..?
Unless memories serves me wrong again.

[dramonic]

We lynched hm because he was being scummy, although we did not necessarly put as much faith on him flipping scum as on, say, silavor, if that's what you're asking.
It's not an accident though

[Mariyta]

She means that people aren't paying attention. The hammer on kcda was unintentional. I think Kise knew this one was a hammer, though.

[werewolf555]

unvote
vote: vezok