New Designer Mafia (Victor(s) are crowned)

[chesskid3]

why wouldn't he be i mean it's our qt lol >_>

[CooLDoG]

yeah, I sent it to you. Its night talk only though. Damn it by looking at that pm I remembered what my role was... Try vigging the person who sent it to me....

[Internet Stranger]

Internet Stranger:
Votes Xaxle for the claim suggestion
Votes Olinea thinking that she detonated.
Blames Olinea for setting up Furc with the kill - Where did this idea come from? I can't find the link from Olinea to Furc regarding either of them being the possible detonator.
I do like his attacks though on Dana, seems very in line with someone who is questioning and actively scanning for scum.
I don't like his mentions of Furc though. I feel that it is likely IS is a partner with Furc.
Has actively focused on both SC and Xalxe. I don't like that he focuses so much on these people. Since his attack on Dana, I feel that he's tunneled a bit too much on 3/4 people.

I'm keeping my vote on IS for now, but I'm definitely curious to see Xalxe's response.

crap crap crap crap, Nice try painting me with a broad scumbrush. You make decent cases on the other two scumbags, a weaksauce case on me, but yet I warrant a vote?

Youre bringing up OLD points that have since changed once new information came out.
Im still on Xalxe for several reasons that have been brought out and explained to death by several people (Including you)
I left Olinea alone once the whole issue of the detonation was sorted out.
I thought Furc was just another unreadable VI full of nonsense. Oh gawd, if Furc was on my scumteam I would have steamrolled him so he wouldnt take me down with him. Otherwise, I normally ignore the VIs assuming that someone else will get rid of them early on in the game. (See: Chesskid, Cooldog, Furcolow)
When was the last time I even mentioned SC? That Day2 ended so fast we barely got to discuss anything.
And the case on Dana was directly tied to Olinea detonating.

Essentially, you have nothing, except my meta of ignoring the VI's like Furcolow.

Am I tunneling, FUCK YEA I AM, I think XALXE is SCUM. Of course im going to tunnel on him.

[ThAdmiral]

I don't want to read this damn thread

Just read all my posts. They are a summary of the more-or-less major events. See if you agree or disagree with them.

talking about scumteams in 23.

Null here. This was

after

Furcolow flipped Mafia C.

True but we still don't actually know how many actual scumteams there are.

@ nocmen - IS won't be the lynch today. Choose out of xalxe or deathnote.

[zoraster]

Okay. Back from vacation, and time to catch up... will have a post today or tomorrow morning (my time).

[Xalxe]

A look at the two major wagons today, and the person I am voting for

Xalxe:
Says to go with the claim of submitted roles, and then doesn't want to give his full claims. To me, this seems like there's a partner or some reason that he wants to keep his roles secret.
Very little content in his early posts besides mentioning the claims.
Votes Furc for what seems to be the same reasons I voted for Furc.
Seems to be willing to flip between Furc and Zaj as each is beneficial.
His questions post is a lot of just actually seeing what people's thoughts are. Not much content revelation, but places a vote for DeathNote here as well.
Doesn't place a vote during Day 2, nor does he contribute much more than repeating some posts about SC.

Overall, I don't like that he's testing the waters, and his votes D1 compared to D2. Seems a bit too cautious with the SC wagon when he seemed happy to vote the first Day.

Question to Xalxe: Why no votes Day 2?

1) I claimed submitted roles, whatchu talkin' bout?
2) Why no votes? I wanted SC to weigh in first. I stated that I would vote him if I found it necessary, but by the time he showed up, he had been mistakenly hammered.

[Xalxe]

Am I tunneling, FUCK YEA I AM, I think XALXE is SCUM. Of course im going to tunnel on him.

So nobody else is scum? Nobody? At ALL?

If we have a vig in town, you suck at life. Please end IS now. He is antitown at BEST.

[chesskid3]

its a bit late to be vigging anti-towns
we need to start lynching scum,, because it's like 5 dead town v 1 dead scum

[Xalxe]

its a bit late to be vigging anti-towns
we need to start lynching scum,, because it's like 5 dead town v 1 dead scum

But we've had, what, one kill each night? In a game this large, with IS, I'd be willing to take that chance were I a vig.

[Seraphim]

Nvm

[Fashion Llama]

Vote Count

Xalxe(3) - Internet Stranger, DeathNote, fishythefish
DeathNote(6) - CooLDoG, Amrun, WhenInRome, chesskid3, Xalxe, ThAdmiral
Internet Stranger(1) - Nocmen
Demonhybrid(1) - populartajo
Tasky(1) - Olinea

Not Voting(6) - Sevei, Zajnet, brokenscraps, DemonHybrid, zoraster, Tasky

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch
Deadline for day three is Friday March 25th, 8PM PST

I hate hydras. Reposted for posterity.

[Xalxe]

Vote Count
Olinea(1) - Tasky
Tasky(1) - Olinea

Okay, seriously you two. NEITHER of you is getting lynched today, unless you can pull some fantastic new evidence to light that proves the other is irrefutable scum. Until this happens upon the Summer Solstice, would you please,

please

put your votes to better use?

[Nocmen]

Unvote,
Vote: Xalxe

[Sevei]

I've gotten way behind in posting here, especially since day two ended so very quickly, but I'm still happy with a Xalxe lynch, same reasons apply. More to come after I catch up a bit on my notes.

Vote: Xalxe

[CooLDoG]

So its now 6/5 in favor of death note, I would be willing to switch my vote to xalxe. As a matter of fact, I feel like doing that now...

unvote, vote: xlave

.

[chesskid3]

unvote
vote: xalxe

[CooLDoG]

Man, now I friggin' double voter.

[chesskid3]

lololol

[DemonHybrid]

I'm having a ton of weather and car problems. Post coming in a few hours, apologies.

[Amrun]

Quick note as I'm doing further research:

DeathNote submitted a Jester role. Could Ender have received it? Is making up a role conceivable for him, in his meta? If he's jester, he's doing a good job so far (imho). Still, he could have pushed pressure when he got some votes earlier. Just throwing it out there.

DeathNote himself is giving me scumpings. Several times, he asks, "Is this scummy? Is that scummy?" in an open-ended form. It's strange to me and I honestly think he's asking for behaviors to avoid while passing it off as flippant.

The subtle insertion of "we" when he's referring to a group that suspects someone he did not suspect was something someone else pointed out and that didn't occur to me, but I might as well restate it.

Also, complete lack of scumhunting from DeathNote.

On to ISO someone else.

This was my very first case on DN in day 1. After that, it continues to go downhill. He flat out REFUSES to refute anything, quickhammered (on scum, but quickhammers are still bad, in light of "Mafia C"), does not scumhunt, and in general is just rolling happily in anti-town play.

ThAd and some others have also brought up different, and valid, points against DN.


This is for fishythefish, who asked for a case summary, but also for DN himself since he seems to be too lazy to read.

[chesskid3]

jesus christ
there's 1 fucking scumteam
they're just called mafia C
or the role cop was
C role cop
omfg
1 kill per night
does not make 3 scumteams
you derping derps

[Amrun]

Why would the mod include a role cop if there was a single scumteam? It would seem like a strange choice to me.

It's not definite. Just something to think about.

[DeathNote]

What about the different kill flavors? Or the snipe?

I doubt their is only one mafia team.

[chesskid3]

explain 1 kill per night then go

[Amrun]

Doctors. Roleblockers.

Done.