Mini 1130 - A Fishbowl Invasion by Ninja Monkeys! - Over

[DemonHybrid]

And Parama posted minutes after I did. What is your point?

[Bub Bidderskins]

VOTE: DemonHybrid

Yesterday smells completely like chaining lynches after a bus.

Nice try though.

I'm not buying it.

[Bub Bidderskins]

Scum could just as easily been on the wagon as off of it and that wouldn't have changed the result.

[Parama]

Cecily was an antimiller IMO.
I need to reread. Post later today, since I'm at school atm.

[Riceballtail]

VOTE:Sundy

[Bub Bidderskins]

VOTE:Sundy

Please explain your vote.

[Oso]

VOTE:DemonHybrid

Yesterday smells completely like chaining lynches after a bus.

Nice try though.

I can see the reasoning behind that. Anything else pinging your scumdar about him?

VOTE:Sundy

Please explain your vote.

This as well^^

Aside from the casting suspicions at 3 players but vote a fourth (which is worth noting, but I thought Sundy explained that well enough) anything else at all? Sundy has been reading pretty much dead neutral to me all game. I haven't been paying as much attention there as to others.

[Parama]

Oso 56 really makes me want to put him as scum, now that we have some flips.

UNVOTE: [winger]

His play up to this point (as bad as I think it may be) doesn't override the claim, in my opinion.

vote: Oso

some late D1/early D2 posts make me believe crazy is town, and Sundy's really the only other person besides crazy who could be scum, so.... Oso/Sundy team it is. GG guys, if you want to play with me in another, just /in in the queue after I do :>

BTW DH is practically confirmed town at this point. AGar you fool unvote him.

I'll quickly express my thoughts as I can't be online for too much right now:

I don't believe the claim myself. Putting aside all his scummy behavior, he was way too quick with the claim. A real doc would have at least waited until someone was about to hammer. He even wanted to claim at L-2, which strikes me as scummy.
But staying on the wagon won't do much. We'll most likely lose him tonight, so UNVOTE:

So, you don't believe the claim, but "We'll most likely lose him tonight"?

NEW TARGET ACQUIRED

UNVOTE, VOTE: AKIRA

*scumslip* SAKURAAAAAAIIII!!!

/bah

funnily enough Akira basically cleared DH with his bah post. I approve d(''d)

[Parama]

PARAMA-NOTE: Before some moron misinterprets it: Oso 56 and the quoted post are not the same post. I was too lazy to quote 56, and the second one is basically the same thing Akira did, except disguised better.

[Oso]

Ok, I'll bite.

What, exactly, is wrong with Post 56?

Um, as to unvoting Winger, like I said earlier Oso's PR policy which basically boils down to don't lynch PR claims day 1...ever. Don't take my word for it though. AGar (if he wants to that is) can confirm that I have done the exact same thing in a similar situation.

[Parama]

Gut's telling me that your intention was to vote the wagon that was less likely to take off on its own so that after that was done you could default to the other wagon regardless of whether or not the first wagon went through to a lynch.

Though in light of the post I quoted that hardly matters, since you're scum.

I don't care about your meta.

[Sundy]

And Parama posted minutes after I did. What is your point?

That you were the first person to point out the scum-slip from Akira, so you weren't bussing. It's possible that you decided to sacrifice your buddy for town cred (as it is for anyone on the Akira wagon), but I'd say you're among the least likely to have done it.

RBT: What's up?

[Oso]

Gut's telling me that your intention was to vote the wagon that was less likely to take off on its own so that after that was done you could default to the other wagon regardless of whether or not the first wagon went through to a lynch.

Though in light of the post I quoted that hardly matters, since you're scum.

I don't care about your meta.

I thought about as much.

1)Gut
2)An "obvious" post. So "obvious" you feel it requires no explanation
3)Refusal to EVEN CONSIDER prior behavior that would invalidate either/both points 1 and 2

Despite that, you are still pretty low on my radar at the moment.

Moving on.

Waiting on AGar and Riceballtail before trying to take this day where I'd like to see it go.

[Bub Bidderskins]

I don't usually put much trust in meta. It encourages stupid people to keep on being stupid otherwise people will think they're scum. However, I personally don't see anything scummy in what Oso did. Scum would want to keep on pushing for a lynch of a claimed power role. Backing off wouldn't help them out. However, there is one interesting thing about Oso....

Oso: right before D-2 ended, you said that both me and crazy looked "super-fine" for a lynching, yet you haven't even brought that up today. What gives?

[Oso]

Oso: right before D-2 ended, you said that both me and crazy looked "super-fine" for a lynching, yet you haven't even brought that up today. What gives?

This:

VOTE:DemonHybrid

Yesterday smells completely like chaining lynches after a bus.

Nice try though.

I can see the reasoning behind that. Anything else pinging your scumdar about him?

VOTE:Sundy

Please explain your vote.

This as well^^

Aside from the casting suspicions at 3 players but vote a fourth (which is worth noting, but I thought Sundy explained that well enough) anything else at all? Sundy has been reading pretty much dead neutral to me all game. I haven't been paying as much attention there as to others.

I haven't had any major twitches on my part about either Sundy or DH. It may someday bite me in the ass but having played with AGar before (even though he was scum in one of the games), I'm interested in almost anything he has to say at any given time.

Riceballtail's vote of Sundy is reasonless. By that I mean RBT gave no reason for the vote.

I'd like to hear from both players before I go cluttering up the thread with yet another case/vote.

Two different votes (at that point. Parama's vote of me makes it three votes on three different people now) is quite enough for the moment, in my opinion.

[Riceballtail]

Ugh I suck. Good job experienced people

This post from D2, of which I did not get to post in (grumble...) happens to scream "DAWWW MY BUDDY GOT LYNCHED". I was waiting to give reason until he posted.

[AGar]

VOTE: DemonHybrid

Yesterday smells completely like chaining lynches after a bus.

Nice try though.

Can't go into too much detail. Sitting on my phone in scranton until the weather's nicer, but I have a comment.

What is your case for me over anyone else who voted Cecily?

You set your vote in mind on D1. It's straight up chaining lynches.

[AGar]

Don't like the Sundy-DH interactions either.

So I'd put him as second behind DH right now.

[DemonHybrid]

VOTE: DemonHybrid

Yesterday smells completely like chaining lynches after a bus.

Nice try though.

Can't go into too much detail. Sitting on my phone in scranton until the weather's nicer, but I have a comment.

What is your case for me over anyone else who voted Cecily?

You set your vote in mind on D1. It's straight up chaining lynches.

But how am I different than someone like Parama, or better yet, someone who didn't vote Akira but voted Cecily?

Sundy is suspect to me for that reason.

[DemonHybrid]

Sorry, actually, Bub was the one that wasn't on the first wagon.

I'm on my iPad and things are tough to read, names are hard to remember.

[AGar]

But how am I different than someone like Parama, or better yet, someone who didn't vote Akira but voted Cecily?

This post:

Whoever doesn't have a vote on Akira has my complete permission to hammer him. If he flips scum, I will cling onto a Cecily vote for dear life. You'll get an unvote from me over my dead body.

That's not a town mindset. At all.

[DemonHybrid]

But how am I different than someone like Parama, or better yet, someone who didn't vote Akira but voted Cecily?

This post:

Whoever doesn't have a vote on Akira has my complete permission to hammer him. If he flips scum, I will cling onto a Cecily vote for dear life. You'll get an unvote from me over my dead body.

That's not a town mindset. At all.

You realize that Parama said the same thing? Why aren't you on his case?

For the record, I find you extremely misguided town. You find the first person who committed such an action and bite them instead of looking at the big picture, and I don't think that you as scum would try something so wacky.

You bring up a point about cecily being a good target for a lynch, though. What do you think of the late wagoners and those off of the Akira wagon but on the Cecily wagon?

[Sundy]

AGar, go back and look at Maemuki's posts on Akira/Cecily-- you will find they are not that different from DH's. 6 people chain-lynched, whether they were mistaken, sheeping, or scum. Just pointing out the chain-lynch isn't a very convincing case imo.

RBT: I was mad about all my reads being off

[AGar]

But how am I different than someone like Parama, or better yet, someone who didn't vote Akira but voted Cecily?

This post:

Whoever doesn't have a vote on Akira has my complete permission to hammer him. If he flips scum, I will cling onto a Cecily vote for dear life. You'll get an unvote from me over my dead body.

That's not a town mindset. At all.

You realize that Parama said the same thing? Why aren't you on his case?

For the record, I find you extremely misguided town. You find the first person who committed such an action and bite them instead of looking at the big picture, and I don't think that you as scum would try something so wacky.

You bring up a point about cecily being a good target for a lynch, though. What do you think of the late wagoners and those off of the Akira wagon but on the Cecily wagon?

Parama didn't insinuate he wouldn't move his vote unless it was over his dead body.

The second question is confusing. Please reword?

[DemonHybrid]

So, you're voting based off of word choice over intent? Think about what you're saying.

My question: there are people who voted Cecily but not Akira, and there were people who voted Akira late and still voted Cecily. What do you think of those people?