Open 288 - Mayo Clinic (Game Over!)

[Chocolate Cake]

I mean andrew over empking.

[Kagetora]

Alright bah post here
You see now that I hadn't lied to you, and maybe, just maybe, my theory isn't just the ravings of a lunatic. Good luck.
PS: I still believe in NL D1

[evilpacman18]

Because Empking was vatesi who was obvscum.

[Chocolate Cake]

Because Empking was vatesi who was obvscum.

Uh, no. Fakeclaiming scum don't ask the people their counterclaiming for their reads before doing so.

Plus, andrew is scummy. Vote him.

[andrew94]

vote empking

[Empking]

Vote; Andrew

- Only I have a target for last night - Wizrak. I'm betting Wiz is also scum with andrew.

[MrBump]

Andrew, who'd you kill?

I don't understand two things.
1). How was Kage town?
2). Why are people voting Empking?

Really, until someone can tell me why Empking is scummier than ObvScum Andrew...

VOTE: Andrew

[MrBump]

Can someone clear this up for me? There's eight of us left. Three Mafia, one Serial Killer, four Townies. Does that make it LYLO or MYLO? Or maybe nothing because Serial Killer is in play?

[Empking]

I'd say neither.

[Empking]

Actually a proposal: The Serial Killer should claim. That should boost the odds of the Serial Killer (hurts the scum + it reduces his odds of getting lynched) and the town (Don't need to wastemy kill or our doctors.)

[evilpacman18]

Empking is scum lol. He's trying to set up an easy scum win scenario. If we lynch andrew today and he's town and just one town dies tonight without scum dying (a likely scenario) scum can quicklynch the SK for the win. It'd benefit both the town and SK for him not to claim.

I'm starting to think the best idea may be to not lynch andrew OR Empking today, just because either of them could well be scum. Top lynch choice for today would be MrBump in this case, he seems like the most obvious scum. And besides, if MrBump is scum I'd feel a lot safer about voting andrew since Bump is just short of blatant bussing.

[MrBump]

If we could throw the "Marill is ObvScum" out the window for five fucking seconds and someone say WHY...

Pac makes a good point about Emp, though. Does anyone claim to have protected Wizrak, btw?

[MrBump]

Also meta defence blah blah, I never bus.

[MrBump]

I'm MrBump, not Marill. Dammit, self.

[andrew94]

i am a true vig. i shot pacman last night despite my comment of him being pro town. i felt something was off about him.

empking might be a goon but pacman has a high chance of being the sk

[Chocolate Cake]

I protected EPM last night, you buffoon; he's the most townish person alive.

[andrew94]

not for me.

and why didnt you protect me, buffoon?

[Chocolate Cake]

Actually, andrew is a good candidate for SK. Since the ratios are such that if we don't lynch mafia today, and the vig misfires, we could lose.

Let me think about this.

UNVOTE:

P. Edit - Because you're scum.

[Chocolate Cake]

Looking back...

@Andrew, I protected aaah400, so its not me

I thought on this and this is very fishy.

You seriously thought aaah was the most townish person here?

Well, I think all of the players are townie EXCEPT - Kage, MrBump
(I know I am missing one, but I dont really get who during day 1)
So I just did emininiminimo to choose who to heal

This smells like bullshit. The previous day, he expressed suspicion towards: Klazam, EPM, and me.

I know he can't respond to this anymore, but still, this is weird.

[GreyICE]

Vote; Andrew

- Only I have a target for last night - Wizrak. I'm betting Wiz is also scum with andrew.

I protected Wizrak-slot last night.

Why? Because the moderator asked for one replacement in a game with two players suddenly kicked out.

OH.

WHOSE ABOUT TO DIE?

Yes, this could be called gaming the system. I told the moderator and he's fine with it.

Now, EMP or Andrew, thread read time.

[GreyICE]

By the way, very unlikely that one is the Serial Killer. SK has nothing to gain by counterclaiming, since him getting lynched = loss. On the other hand, scum get potentially two mislynches out of the counterclaim, for the cost of one scum. Win? Yes.

I will not believe a serial killer claim from anyone who claimed vig.

[Rain]

At this point, MrBump is as close to confirmed scum as it goes without a cop.

I don't feel much for Empking, but Vatesi is definitely scummier than Andrew. I would support both lynches.

Vote: Empking

[GreyICE]

1. MrBump
2. Rain
3. Chocolate Cake
4. andrew94
6. Empking
10. wizrak
11. GreyICE
12. evilpacman18

Situation:
4 Town
3 Scum
1 Serial Killer

This is the player list. One of Andrew/EmpKing is confirmed scum. Serial Killer, if we lynch wrong, shoot the other one. He's definite goon. You can't afford to have the mafia become the majority either, you know this to be true.

If we lynch right, you still want to shoot that Bump uselessness. 1 goon left means the situation tomorrow is:
3:1:1

If you hit town, and scum shot goes through, it's 2:2:1. This is Kingmaker, and you're very, very likely to lose Kingmaker. You have a fair chance of winning LyLo because of the utter chaos of our night actions.

Any convenient summaries of the claimed night 1 actions? I want to check them over.

[evilpacman18]

Kage isn't gonna claim SK even though claiming SK would probably get him unlynched. Pretty sure he's scum. But I'm gonna lol if he flips vig cuz then Empking will be lynched within 10 posts tomorrow.

Why haven't we done this?

[GreyICE]

Well, it's more or less MyLo today. Mass claim time.

Anyone dispute this?