Mafia 124 - Dilemma Mafia (Day 6)

[Empking]

Vote Count 45

2. DarlaBlueEyes (3) - Jahudo, werewolf555, Brokenscraps,
3. werewolf555
5. Jahudo
7. Fishythefish
8. Brokenscraps (3) - DavidParker, Fishythefish, Yosarian2
9. DavidParker
10. Aikage
11. Yosarian2
13. llarmable

Not Voting: DarlaBlueEyes, llarmable, Aikage

9 players left. 5 to lynch.

[Fishythefish]

Right.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DBE

I prefer this to a broken lynch. broken's post on DBE was pretty good, and his post criticising me doesn't have much scum motivation; I was considering moving to DBE, and attacking me seems counterproductive. The company on the broken wagon isn't good.

L-1

[Yosarian2]

Tracking a claimed VT is the "right" thing to do? HORSESHIT.

What kind of VT claim by scum performs the NK AFTER THE TRACKERS BEEN OUTED ALREADY?

If he's any kind of scum power role, he does something, and I catch him in a lie. That's why tracking a claimed VT is better then tracking anything else. Plus, hell, the way this town has been going, I could bloody have caught you murdering DLG last night or something and you'd probably claim vig and everyone would believe you for no bloody reason. If you catch a claimed VT doing something, they've got no room left to maneuver. Tracking a claimed VT generally gives more solid information then tracking an unclaimed person, for those reasons.

In any case, at the end of the day yesterday, I didn't show any real suspicion on him. The scum may be likely to send him out, on the theory that I'm more likely to target, say, you.

[Jahudo]

Yos's logic makes sense, even if the chances of catching something were small there would be no excuse llama would give.

[Yosarian2]

Yos's logic makes sense, even if the chances of catching something were small there would be no excuse llama would give.

I didn't really think it was all that small, either. Based on everything that happened in the game so far, the odds of Llama being some kind of scum power role seemed higher then average.

[Fishythefish]

Yep, I can easily see Yos tracking Llama here. Equally, it clearly doesn't in any way confirm anything. Yos probably

is

a tracker of some alignment - it's a dodgy fakeclaim for scum.

[Llamarble]

I suppose I'm prepared to hammer DBE. Claimtime.

[DarlaBlueEyes]

I had a post all written up earlier and BOOM tornado warning and sirens and thunder and shit. The fates are conspiring against me in this game especially )<

I am honestly a bit reluctant to claim, as I vaguely mentioned in response to Yos' call for a vig to claim now, but seeing as how I am about to be hammered, I'll come out with it. I'm a vig. I didn't get a kill in N1 and N2 I shot bob. I really thought he was scum from his play, and didn't think I'd ever be able to convince the town of it enough to lynch him, so....

clearly my reads were shit.

[Jahudo]

Well Darla had been the one to suspect bobs and between him and DLG, bobs looks more like a vig (or maybe SK) kill than a mafia one. So I think Darla is either a Vig or an SK right now.

I also think mafia should be the priority, if we have a good bet on catching mafia. And broken is also scummy and a good bet for mafia. So I want to consider that lynch instead, barring a vig counter-claim.

unvote

for now.

[Aikage]

Fucking Nikanor.

I have no interest in lynching a SK/Vig.

Unvote:
Vote: Brokenscraps

MAFIA LYNCHIN TIME HOOOOOOOOOOO

[werewolf555]

I'm really sorry, but some

Major

stuff in my life has popped up.

/replace out

[DavidParker]

Mind voting your scum buddy before replacing out? thanks.

[Llamarble]

Unvote

Who are broken's buddies? At this point the number of players is small enough that we can start thinking more holistically.
I don't want to lynch someone I can't think of buddies for. (I'm not saying that's a problem for broken specifically, but it's something to think about)
Setup speculation:
There might be 4 mafia considering claimed copdocvigtracker. But somebody would have quickhammered DBE, so that's out. But then we have to buy 11 townies with copdocvig vs 3 scum.
That is also pretty unbelievable, so DBE essentially must be some flavor of scum. That leaves us with copdoctracker as town PRs, 3 mafia, an SK, and 7 VTs. Sounds good to me. If there's another decently strong town PR out there Yos is likely a scumtracker.
Town:
Llama
Fishy
Fate
Yos?

SK:
Darla

Scum: 3 of
Broken
Jahudo
WW
DP

I need to reanalyze those last 4 to see if there is a group of 3 I can buy as the scumteam. If not I'll have to look back into Fishy/Fate, whom I haven't checked out in awhile.

[Fishythefish]

Well, Darla is certainly not the lynch. May be SK, may be vig, and that's a question for much later in the game, if she's still alive.

Brokenscraps should claim.

[Empking]

brokenscraps has been prodded

[brokenscraps]

Well, Darla is certainly not the lynch. May be SK, may be vig, and that's a question for much later in the game, if she's still alive.

Brokenscraps should claim.

No I shouldn't.

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So Darla is town vig/SK. UNVOTE: Darla

She can be treated as town then for interactions, which points to DP/werewolf scumteam + one other.

Llamarble is very town at this point, not least for picking the scumteam. Nikanor(/Fate) gets massive points for unvoting him at L-1.

Fish/Yos/Jahudo from least to most likely to be DP/werewolf's partner.

I'll try working on proper full case posts in the next few days.

[Yosarian2]

Well, Darla is certainly not the lynch. May be SK, may be vig, and that's a question for much later in the game, if she's still alive.

Yeah. I don't trust this claim, but unless she's counterclaimed on making the Bob kill, i don't see how she could be mafia.

[DarlaBlueEyes]

If it's any help, I am willing to cooperate with the town/majority in selecting my kills. Assuming at least we don't have a role-blocker in play on either side, especially on the scum team if the majority decides to target one of theirs.

[Llamarble]

Do people think DP & WW could be scum together? I'm having a hard time deciding if the mega vote / he's not aggressive enough thing was distancing or not.

[Fishythefish]

If it's any help, I am willing to cooperate with the town/majority in selecting my kills. Assuming at least we don't have a role-blocker in play on either side, especially on the scum team if the majority decides to target one of theirs.

Actually, I'd rather not direct you. Roleblockers are too common.

[Aikage]

Lol at RB speculation, CLAIMED MR> TRACKER WASNT ROLEBLOCKED TEEHEE

Nikanor's MIA, somethin about working double shifts to make up for his rent because of somethinsomethin

ANYWAY

Unvote:
Vote: Werewolf

I don't like the brokenscraps wagon, on second thought. My early gut said he was town just like I shouldve stuck to my EARLYGUT on BUDDERSKINS.

Werewolf should go before DP, cause of earlier said towntells comitted by DP.

Jahudo gets points for being the first to say I WANNA HUNT MAFIAZ TODAY

[Llamarble]

My townread on Fate is fraying a bit. I could see Fatescum using me as a pet townie.

I want more of a case against WW including potential buddies. I guess I'll try and puzzle together what's going on soon.

[Empking]

Locke Lamorareplaces werewolf

[Locke Lamora]

Hi all, will attempt to catch up as best I can this evening.

[DavidParker]

Darla asking for "direction" in kills from town doesn't seem very town-motivated to me...

I've been behind a werewolf lynch for a looooong time. Please let this wagon kick off.

Unvote, Vote: Locke Lamora