New Designer Mafia (Victor(s) are crowned)

[populartajo]

poptajo, what abilities does he have besides the immediately apparent one?

didnt he tell you that?

[Xalxe]

Fuck it, here's what happened:

WIR opened a QuickTopic with me overnight Night 1. Tajo received the same treatment N2. I dunno what he said to Tajo, but basically no discussion took place between me and WIR. If there are secondary abilities there, I don't know them. Also, I crumbed this quickly when this discussion started.

PEDIT: No, obv not.

[populartajo]

Additionally, how do you know scum werent parking votes on Furcolow thinking that Xalxe was a definite lynch?

its also possible, and its why I also think DemonHybrid fits in the scumteam.

The important thing is that not all Furc scumpartners were parking votes on Furcolow. That would be idiotic. A group of scumpartners was definitely voting Xalxe to secure his lynch since its impossible all the people that voted Xalxe were town.

[populartajo]

so it doesnt get lost in the bottom of last page.

Also WIR needs to fucking explain why did he target me with that scummy ability yesterday.

How the fuck is my ability scummy?

you told me that now Id be investigated as guilty. How isnt that scummy?

[Xalxe]

SAY WHAT NOW?!?

[WhenInRome]

jesus christ abilities do not alignment imply
wtfrageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Since it makes no sense NOT to claim, I'll claim:
Porn star (weird name, amirite?) You can pick someone every night, and open a QT with them. But, anyone investigating me or the chosen will be found guilty. Sided with the village. Cool, you submitted that, right? Can you confirm that's what it does?

[Xalxe]

Wait, so you had sex with me? Eeeewww...

Also, yeah, scummy, but I can see it either way. Did anything useful happen between you and tajo last night?

[Sevei]

I've gotten way behind in posting here, especially since day two ended so very quickly, but I'm still happy with a Xalxe lynch, same reasons apply. More to come after I catch up a bit on my notes.

Vote: Xalxe

Why?

Xalxe has talked a lot, but despite his protests otherwise, he really hasn’t done anything of note. Establishing claims has been his major contribution thus far and has only really served to cause a lot of distraction. This is not a complaint about asking people to claim, but Xalxe’s focus on that has superceded his scumhunting.

In Post 144 says that no wagon is pointless and that using FoS “this early” is scummy; his vote in this post is his own first vote and seems like he’s voting at this point just because he’s calling someone out for not voting.

The push for Furcolow to vote/clear Olinea is fine and good, but it’s also a way for Xalxe to “scumhunt”; Furc makes himself a very easy target for this sort of thing.

Overall, between the push for claims in the beginning and now ISO posts 52 and 53, Xalxe seems more concerned with gathering data than with analyzing it.

Since I made this post, you're still not doing much of anything except asking why you're being voted, saying you should not be voted, etc. You've evaded a lynch twice now and things still aren't changing on your end, so that's why.

@Tajo: If Furc's partners were on the Xalxe wagon, where do you think Xalxe's partners were?

@WIR: Do you have any sort of reasoning as to why you picked Tajo and Xalxe to be your night time companions?

[Internet Stranger]

And whats the point of picking them as your love subjects anyways? Just so you can have a nighttime QT?

Are you asking your lovers for information? Oh man, if I was scum and had that role, the first I would do is trick people into giving me targets to kill or trick them into revealing role info. Although, bonus points for warning people that they will look guilty to investigations.

[Internet Stranger]

Oh yea, and lets lynch XalxeScum.

[zoraster]

Okay. Done catching up, sorry for my absence. DeathNote and Xalxe are both VERY good lynches. In fact, it's rare that I think the two leading possibilities are both so scummy.

On the one hand you have DeathNote who seems uninterested in doing anything productive with his time, choosing to pick out a few points against him, give a little bit of an answer and move on.

Xalxe is an entirely different flavor of scum. I outlined my early game reasoning for Xalxe-scum, but I want to highlight something that really bothered me:

[quote=Xalxe]Oh, if I thought a lyncher role was likely, IS would be my lyncher fo'sho. As it is, this blatant tunneling is annoying and anti-town.[/quote]

This seems a desperate ploy to OMGUS without actually arguing IS is scum. It's ridiculously scummy. As I mentioned, it's not often that I just can't go wrong with a choice between two wagons, but Xalxe is the marginally scummier:

VOTE: Xalxe

[zoraster]

damn quote tags. Why do some things require " marks and others don't? Sigh. Here, EBWOP:

Oh, if I thought a lyncher role was likely, IS would be my lyncher fo'sho. As it is, this blatant tunneling is annoying and anti-town.

[Zajnet]

Why does everybody keep asking whoever submitted their role what it does? Read the damn role PM. The person who submitted the role shouldn't have any knowledge other than what's in the role pm unless they submitted a bastard role, in which case, they're probably not going to tell you.

And yes, lets lynch Xalxescum.

Unvote, Vote: Xalxe

if I wasn't already.

[Fishythefish]

And whats the point of picking them as your love subjects anyways? Just so you can have a nighttime QT?

Are you asking your lovers for information? Oh man, if I was scum and had that role, the first I would do is trick people into giving me targets to kill or trick them into revealing role info.

Although, bonus points for warning people that they will look guilty to investigations.

Considering the submitter knows the role, I wouldn't award these bonus points.

@zoraster: where is DN picking and choosing which points to defend against?

Xalxe remains an excellent lynch. Hooray!

@Xalxe: my guess on why Furc died at 9 votes is due to the role "Risky Super Voter".

In fact, that's worth knowing.

To whoever submitted Risky Super Voter

: does it fully explain the dodgy end of day votecounts on both days 1 and 2? It would be good to know whether we have other voting shenanigans going round.

[CooLDoG]

jesus christ abilities do not alignment imply
wtfrageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Since it makes no sense NOT to claim, I'll claim:
Porn star (weird name, amirite?) You can pick someone every night, and open a QT with them. But, anyone investigating me or the chosen will be found guilty. Sided with the village. Cool, you submitted that, right? Can you confirm that's what it does?

SO it is in the game, yup that's my role. I think I should have named it prostitute instead, but its a work in progress. I don't think its a half bad role. I'm really wondering about your choices though, very odd.

fuck this, [/b]unvote, vote xlavixvichstky[/b] or if you prefer,

vote, xlax

honestly, the amrun wagon isn't gonna get picked up and I might as well contribute to some lynch before I'm scum killed n3 (doctor: hint, hint).

...

@deathnoty, my 3rd choice as scum (xlax and amrun are 1 and 2), why aren't you posting anything?

[Amrun]

ITT:

CooLDog accuses me of being scum for "defending" ender by calling him a jester. CooLDog also thinks ender is scum.

Ender is dead and flipped TOWN.


I can't even wrap my mind around it.


Oh my God, though, Xalxe's sad sheephop to the DeathNote wagon is so terrible that it makes me want to vote for him even though I started the DeathNote wagon myself.

But I still think DeathNote is so scum, sooo scummy, that I will stick with my vote on him until one of us is dead.

I will still continue to look for other scum, though, as he can't be alone, obviously.


I need to do some re-reads.

[Olinea]

WhenInRome's claim indicates towniness to me. I'd think, in a game where role alignments aren't given, you can be mostly free to paraphrase the effects of a role and not fall under much scrutiny. If WIR were scum, there wouldn't be a clause that makes

him

show up guilty to investigations as well, since it'd be redundant.

[Xalxe]

ITT:

CooLDog accuses me of being scum for "defending" ender by calling him a jester. CooLDog also thinks ender is scum.

Ender is dead and flipped TOWN.


I can't even wrap my mind around it.


Oh my God, though, Xalxe's sad sheephop to the DeathNote wagon is so terrible that it makes me want to vote for him even though I started the DeathNote wagon myself.

But I still think DeathNote is so scum, sooo scummy, that I will stick with my vote on him until one of us is dead.

I will still continue to look for other scum, though, as he can't be alone, obviously.

I've been arguing DN since D1. reading do you speak it
I need to do some re-reads.

~quote fixed

[Amrun]

Xalxe, you should probably request a mod fix that... Also, it's rude.

I don't remember you pushing DN before today, but I will read back, and if I was mistaken, I do apologize.

[Xalxe]

Oops, yeah.

Fasion Llama: could you remove the last two lines of my previous post from inside the quote tags because I suck at life? Thanks

~quote fixed

[Amrun]

Xalxe did indeed include DN in his list of scum and vote for him on D1, so this is my official apology for misremembering. I thought you had voted for zajnet (and you did suspect him).

However, none of your reasons for voting DN have been original. Still, it makes me feel a lot more secure in my vote for DN today.

You're still a scumread of mine, Xalxe, but that particular reason is hereby detracted.

[Xalxe]

Thank you Amrun, and I apologize for the insult; it was unnecessary.

[Nocmen]

Can anyone claim sending in WIR's role?

I'm suspect of it

[Xalxe]

If only we had a chart of claims....

(CooLDoG BTW)

[Nocmen]

Cooldog, can you confirm that is what the role does? You mentioned that you didn't want to say before.