Mini 1138 - Candy Zoo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Twistedspoon]

If we believe your claim there has to be someone who has something like you or similar.

why?

[Amrun]

That sounds like a scummy role, tbh.

[Twistedspoon]

shrug

it says my alignment is town, and that's what matters

[Morthas]

That sounds like a scummy role, tbh.

Explain please

[Amrun]

She is a zoo visitor and the flavor in the beginning makes it seem like one of the zoo visitors are the murderers.

But my gut is inclined to believe TS is town.

[mb53]

I believe twisted's claim. Multiple reasons. One, is I doubt scum would be able to make up such a role. Two, my gut town read. Three, I re-read the thread, and found that zyr's vote on TS is even more bullshit than I thought it was.

not sure what I think of switching votes in RVS

Cautious to the extent of AVOIDING scumhunting.... so not town....

anyone want to go RQS?

Deflecting with fluff upon being accused.

He quoted half of twisted's post. The full post...

if we're going to go into the psycology of smilies then yes, you could say I usually dissaprove of vote switching in RVS . You RVS for pressure - why would you destroy reasonless pressure on one person to push reasonless pressure on another?

anyone want to go RQS?

What do we do with the items we have? Can we donate them? Maybe if some one gets them all we win:D.

WOAH

what do you mean by 'if someone gets them'
Is it even possible to transfer items?

what reasons do you have for thinking this? I hope this isn't role-fishing vezok from execution mafia again.

Helping vezok rolefish while looking to discourage it(his question)

Or he thought he was scum, so questioned it.

Aaaand... Thats pretty much all zyr has contributed to the case. All of which hoppster pointed out before him. And he is calling for an immediate lynch.


More zyr votes please.

[Twistedspoon]

She is a zoo visitor and the flavor in the beginning makes it seem like one of the zoo visitors are the murderers.

I'm a he :/

[Twistedspoon]

VOTE: Zyrconium

yeah, I've been meaning to do that for a while now

[Amrun]

She is a zoo visitor and the flavor in the beginning makes it seem like one of the zoo visitors are the murderers.

I'm a he :/

WHY DO I KEEP DOING THAT

[mb53]

Also, I think that twisted's role can explain his odd "role fishing" earlier

[Kalofer]

UNVOTE:

As this is not an example of what the mod said was a VT role, then 1 of the following must apply:

a) TS truly is what he says he is (some sort of townie PR) and as such lynching him would be bad for town
b) he made it all up

I really doubt he managed to make all of that up as well as being careful enough to add the nice little green letters and phrase it so well. In this case perhaps we should spare him for the time being (again until perhaps the 2nd day will reveal the mechanic better) and focus our attention on other people. I am liking toasty's post on zyrc and am wondering as to whether I should commit a vote.

Morth I believe what amrun meant (and this is what I'm thinking now) is that for a townie role to target something that someone has and take it would sound a bit scummy, but once again I suggest that there be very little if any speculation regarding the mechanics, vezok said he had a "crack" and that got us nowhere.

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oh really, and what does it suggest? Either make those suggestions now, expand your view or stfu cos I see it as being nothing more than flavour, and don't you mention this again unless you actually got something important to say.

What got up your ass this day? Pretty obvious that I already suggested something like 2 scum teams or 2 kills by one scum team, even if it's just flavor. I don't know whether what I said is reality, but it's out there for speculation. Yet as no one explained to me the game mechanics for mini themes, I don't know whether there actually are 2 scum teams...

the only thing up my ass is your stupidity, 2 scum teams in a 13 player game? What are you smoking?
Nah I kid, but at least with that post you do strike me as town (don't think scum would say something like that)

[vezokpiraka]

We are multiple vanillas with ingredients. It would be stupid to have only one guy who can use the ingredients.

So if someone wants to claim that they have the same role as well that is good. I don't think you should that at all but if we hadn't decided to lynch someone else than TS I say someone comes out so we can clear him.

[mb53]

Kalofer, I assume that since my response post didn't get responded to, that I had an adequate defense? Or did you just miss it?

[Twistedspoon]

Also, I think that twisted's role can explain his odd "role fishing" earlier

well I never intended to role fish

I said it seemed as though vezok knew too much for a VT. This was obvious.

As this is not an example of what the mod said was a VT role, then 1 of the following must apply:

a) TS truly is what he says he is (some sort of townie PR) and as such lynching him would be bad for town
b) he made it all up

Trust me, I'd have chosen a much more common PR, or claimed candy animal, if I had wanted to make something up.

We are multiple vanillas with ingredients. It would be stupid to have only one guy who can use the ingredients.

If there is another zoo visitor, I'd prefer them not to claim. If the mafia know more about my ability than myself, then they might try to NK me if they see my ability as a threat.
I wouldn't want another Zoo visitor to claim unless we know more about ingredients or they're about to be hammered

[Morthas]

She is a zoo visitor and the flavor in the beginning makes it seem like one of the zoo visitors are the murderers.

But my gut is inclined to believe TS is town.

But that would presume TS is lieing and i doubt (judging by this game) he would be able to elaborate such a lie but of course i may be surprised
So because of me believing TS could not think up of that as his role i am going to pull back from voting TS and start thinkin he's just a VI

got Ninja'd several times with people detecting the same thing as i did

@vez: officially town VI read for me

ah and, what i said is exactly what Kalofer said, just he did it in more detail

Not sure what to think of Zyr just yet, going to skim him later along with Amrun who im getting gut feelings from

STOP NINJAING ME

[mb53]

So, everyone on the TS wagon (especially the ones who already said that they believe the claim)... Who do you think is scum now?

[vezokpiraka]

unvote TS

I always forget to do that for some reason.

I'm not sure were to look for know. I think morthas is a good target.

[Twistedspoon]

start thinkin he's just a VI

:3

not VI, just reckless townie

[Zyrconium]

Ok UNVOTE:

TS might still be evil but I expect that to be made exceedingly apparent from night actions(he's choosing someone night 1, and if he has a negative effect on PRs we're lynching him instantly).

To be specific, there's no doubt in my mind he's telling the truth about his role, his alignment however is still questionable.

And TS, VI.... your defense managed to convince pretty much everyone you were scum.

[mb53]

So, everyone on the TS wagon (especially the ones who already said that they believe the claim)... Who do you think is scum now?

[Zyrconium]

Scum would want you to waste time by defending youself? Bs. Scum would want all the attention diverted at someone who can't defend themselves (which is what happening to you right now ;D). Bad logic
...
UNVOTE: VOTE: TwistedSpoon
You all should know why.

These two lines irked me at the time, but with the qualifier of "if TS is inno" it didn't seem worth bringing up then.

P-Edit: Seriously give me 5 mins mb?

[Amrun]

We are multiple vanillas with ingredients. It would be stupid to have only one guy who can use the ingredients.

So if someone wants to claim that they have the same role as well that is good. I don't think you should that at all but if we hadn't decided to lynch someone else than TS I say someone comes out so we can clear him.

STOP FISHING FOR TOWN PR

STOP

[mb53]

I'M SORRY I NEVER EXPECT DOUBLE POSTS

[Twistedspoon]

To be specific, there's no doubt in my mind he's telling the truth about his role, his alignment however is still questionable.

well my PM says I'm town aligned, so I'm all for hunting the scum, and my ability can only be pro-town whatever it is

maybe the ingredients are useless to candy animals, but when I take them off of them, I can make something useful?

[Zyrconium]

TS: if you're not lieing you're town aligned, if you ARE lieing I'm not really expecting you to point it out... (You'd think this would be stating the obvious, but apparently not)