Metropolis: Redemption [Game Over]

[Fate]

Also, Fate: Nothing was worded about it being a 1-shot or invincible. Part of my suspicion on being shot was that I was not instructed to pass it on at any point.

So you're saying its lost or what are you saying?

What do you think about the Medic claiming and receiving it? His protection last night is confirmed Non-Halfscum (either SK or Mafia)

[LimMePls]

Blow me Fate.

[Fate]

You've been tunneling town for two days while I was busy lynching scum.

"teehee"

Aren't you ashamed of your play recently on site? At all?

[LimMePls]

Nope.

[Fate]

*shrug*

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis

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Redemption

— The Phantom Pollbooth

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farside22 [2] – Fate, Gold

ShadowGuru [2] – Stefunny, LynchMePls

Espeonage [1]

– MagnaofIllusion

Gold [1]

– farside22

LynchMePls [1]

– nopointinactingup

Not voting

– AGar, Espeonage, GummyBear, ShadowGuru

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With 11 alive, it is 6 to lynch. The deadline for Day 2 is March 24th, 8pm PST (11pm EST).

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[AGar]

Also, Fate: Nothing was worded about it being a 1-shot or invincible. Part of my suspicion on being shot was that I was not instructed to pass it on at any point.

So you're saying its lost or what are you saying?

What do you think about the Medic claiming and receiving it? His protection last night is confirmed Non-Halfscum (either SK or Mafia)

I'm saying I received a PM at the start of N1 saying I got it for the night.

I'm saying I never received a PM instructing me to pass it on.

I'm hesitant to go with a medic claiming because I might not be able to pass it on.

[MagnaofIllusion]

On the topic of the missing kills (since everyone wants to apparently discuss it …)

At least one if not two of the follow happened last night –

1. The Mafia chose to No-kill.
2. The Evil Angel chose to No-kill.
3. The Mafia or Evil Angel chose to attempt to kill AGar who was bulletproof
4. The Mafia or Evil Angel attempted to kill someone protected by the Doctor
5. The Evil Angel attempted to kill the Pyromaniac.

All this means is that we have no clue what happened and speculating isn’t a good idea at this juncture.

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I'm saying I never received a PM instructing me to pass it on.

I'm hesitant to go with a medic claiming because I might not be able to pass it on.

Good posting …

I suspect that since you were informed at the start of the Night that you had received it you will be prompted to pass it at the start of N2.

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Elaborate on your second part? Questions about his claim wut? I don't see any downside from a bulletproof confirmed doc.

What I was inferring is the fact that a counter-claim of the Doc creates a situation where we might not be able to pass the bulletproof vest to someone. Not a great likelihood, IMO, but within the realm of possibility.

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Unvote
Vote: Shadow

Before we go aiming for VIs what do you think of the Farside case?

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@ MoI: Looks like a good case. Not going to join it though. I am actually going to do a notetaking reread sometime over the weekend

If you like the case, why aren’t you joining the wagon?

That reminds me .. thanks to your unsubtlely there

UNVOTE: Espeonage
VOTE: Farside

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Furcolow here, is anyone against the thought of AGar being confirmed town at this point?

Unless he’s counterclaimed of course not … why bother asking?

we have a doctor, a dead hooker, and 2 power roles that are ripe to be claimed

Have you carefully thought throught the implications of a Mass-claim? I’m completely serious about this question … have you run numbers and considered variables?

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Right lets bypass everything scummy he does and call it newb.
I sense a scum connection here folks.

Nice straw-man. Saying I don’t find 95 scummy at all doesn’t mean what you infer here.

You’ve never said specifically what about 95 was scummy. I’d like you to site specifically what that is in post 95. Put it on record.

Also, still waiting on a Vig claim

Insert face-palm pic here ….

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@Maggy: Just look at his posts and stop being nosy for fuk sake xD and stop calling me fail for the sake of it =.=

I’m not calling you fail for the sake of it. I highlighted exactly the glaring holes in his assumptions.

I'd have to agree with Fursy that it's odd for Espy to phrase it like that.

You agree that it is odd. Great. Are you honestly suggesting, as Furc is, that Espeonage specifically typed a sentence directly saying to his partner “Fate is good at catching us as scum” as opposed to using odd phrasing to say “Fate is good at catching scum for us”?

[ShadowGuru]

I don't want a fucking massclaim, idiot, I want 1 claim
learn to fucking read

[ShadowGuru]

well he got the BP
no ccs
FIRST TO GET BP IS TOWN
he also apparently survived a hit?
... that coincides with having a BP?
lol

how is he not clear?
let me get it out of the rules:

Game-Specific Rules

1. One Citizen will begin the game with a Bulletproof Vest, which must be passed on at each Night's end.

Until someone CCs AGar, well, obviously he is town.
Malthusis couldn't have had it, or he'd be alive as far as I know.

Also, still waiting on a Vig claim

If you think he's clear, why did you need to ask the rest of the town? The fact that you were putting out feelers on whether everyone else was going to treat AGar as town before you would commit to the stance is scummy as hell.

Unvote
Vote: Shadow

I was just making sure you all weren't going to be idiots, and bringing up the fact that if someone else had it he needs to be fucking counterclaimed

You and MoI are really getting on my fucking nerves this game, making me regress to FURC RAGE.

My posting started off grate until Magna decided to go and edit the fucking font size and start calling me a god damned VI

[ShadowGuru]

Also, Fate: Nothing was worded about it being a 1-shot or invincible. Part of my suspicion on being shot was that I was not instructed to pass it on at any point.

So you're saying its lost or what are you saying?

What do you think about the Medic claiming and receiving it? His protection last night is confirmed Non-Halfscum (either SK or Mafia)

the MEDIC claiming?
interesting choice of words, where'd you get that term from?

[ShadowGuru]

vote: LMP

if scum, great
if town, not that bad

/policy

[ShadowGuru]

CooLDoG [7] – Fate, GummyBear, AGar, MagnaofIllusion, Espeonage, Stefunny, ShadowGuru
Besides my wagon, and Espeonage's, noone was really on CD who is getting wagonned/accruing any votes
I already tried to do scumhunting, and I only got ridiculed by trolls, so I will be keeping my mouth shut until we lynch LMP or MoI on policy of hindering town scumhunting. I am voting LMP over MoI because he was not on CD.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I don't want a fucking massclaim, idiot, I want 1 claim
learn to fucking read

I do know how to read. Do you? Here’s what you wrote

we have a doctor, a dead hooker, and

2 power roles that are ripe to be claimed

I took the liberty of bolding the portion where you indicate that there are 2 roles that are ripe to be claimed.

If that isn’t inferring you are wanting more than 1 claim I don’t know what does.

the MEDIC claiming?
interesting choice of words, where'd you get that term from?

From the Wiki that ReaperCharlie provided for the game. Link to be found in THE VERY FIRST POST of the game that you should have read if you were paying attention.

You and MoI are really getting on my fucking nerves this game, making me regress to FURC RAGE.

I don’t care if I get on your nerves. If you are going to continue to post in an illogical I’m going to call you on it.

I already tried to do scumhunting, and I only got ridiculed by trolls, so I will be keeping my mouth shut until we lynch LMP or MoI on policy of hindering town scumhunting.

Please show how I’m hindering Town scum-hunting.

Pointing out that you are just calling me scum isn’t hindering scum-hunting. It’s asking you to provide a coherent case as to why as opposed to posting conflicting tells and trying to waive it away with “whatever, you are scum”

Despite your aggrevating posting I'm not inclined to push you because frankly I don't see you as likely scum with the whole "Now you are trying to tie us as buddies" bit CMAR did with CooLDoG.

What do you think about the farside case?

[GummyBear]

Singer has her own things she wants to comment on in another post:

I feel I'm good at reading singer's meta, which is why, if you'll notice, I asked singer to start signing!

CMAR, You’ve only ever played in one other game with Singer, which is currently ongoing. D1 of the game isn’t even over yet. How can you possibly claim to be able to read her meta?

Gold, I hope you get better on D2. Right now, you’re basically useless. (Not scummy; just useless.)

Nopoint, your 133 is… not good. Clearing people based on stuff CD said? Really? *thumbsdown* Additionally, something to point out in your 137:

Farside feels town to me all the time.

Does that not bother you? If someone always read town to me, I would automatically leave them off of my town list until they were even more townie than usual. It’s an individual baseline thing; if someone’s playstyle always reads as town, then you should probably be more suspicious of them than anyone else.

Shadow, your 180 is just not good. LMP points out a flaw in your reasoning and you respond with the equivalent of “NUH UH I’M RIGHT YOU’RE WRONG.” And then (in your 183) calling MoI flailing scum? Really? Come on, now. And LMP and MoI are NOT buddying you. You should maybe check the definition of buddying.

Additionally: Fate is very clearly not the SK. That’s pretty much durrrrrrrrr at this point, IMO.

Right lets bypass everything scummy he does and call it newb.
I sense a scum connection here folks.

First: what has Gold done that’s scummy? Give me real evidence; your ISO certainly doesn’t show any. Second: Calling MoI Gold’s buddy for pointing out faulty reasoning from you? Helloooooo OMGUS.
Your insistence on Gold being scummy makes no sense, and comes across as scum gunning for a VI - mislynch.
farside just zoomed up the scumlist.

Shadow: why the unvote?

Basically, their 4 pitiful posts are actually even scummy; I don't see how you can be so scummy in like 5 lines

This sounds like a pretty strong opinion to be unvoting without any explanation…

Shadow, farside, and Nopoint (to a lesser extent) top our scumlist right now. Espeonage is null. Gold is a null VI.

-quadz

[farside22]

First off that comment that MOI posted saying I asked for a vig claim is complete shit. There is no post I did such.
Second Gold if following. He has no thought process of his on on post 95. Him following without making any of his own response or opinion is scummy.
Then his day 2 post is oh hey far is scummy for her post (which I followed) vote far
That is scum gold (litteraly)

[Stefunny]

So I went to reread the wiki and while it does not say that the BP vest is a one shot it does say

One Citizen will begin the game with a Bulletproof Vest,

which must be passed on at each Night's end.

Now if this means it is lost because it IS a one shot I don't know, but it does look to me like if it was still in action then AGar would have been prompted to pass it...

[Fate]

First off that comment that MOI posted saying I asked for a vig claim is complete shit. There is no post I did such.
Second Gold if following. He has no thought process of his on on post 95. Him following without making any of his own response or opinion is scummy.
Then his day 2 post is oh hey far is scummy for her post (which I followed) vote far
That is scum gold (litteraly)

Then her day 2 posts of literally avoiding me except to make a fence-sit "fatemaybebussin" post, even though I've had my vote on her most of the day= scum gold (actually)

[farside22]

First off that comment that MOI posted saying I asked for a vig claim is complete shit. There is no post I did such.
Second Gold if following. He has no thought process of his on on post 95. Him following without making any of his own response or opinion is scummy.
Then his day 2 post is oh hey far is scummy for her post (which I followed) vote far
That is scum gold (litteraly)

Then her day 2 posts of literally avoiding me except to make a fence-sit "fatemaybebussin" post, even though I've had my vote on her most of the day= scum gold (actually)

Your fate. Your always highly questionable even as town.
You voted for with no reason. Oh no. Seriously what response would you expect when you provide no reason other then yeah farside is scum?

Typing this in all game:
I'm currently overloaded at work this week and working overtime this weekend to meet a deadline. Consider me on LA for a week. Which mean limited access, infrequent post and catch's will take longer to do.

[Fate]

Hope you get caught up at work.

We'll lynch you here so you have one less thing to worry about. I know deception takes a toll on the mind, much harder than being a truthful honest citizen.

[Gold]

Sorry I suck at finding information, I feel as though if I do find something vital it's probably just irrelevant. When I do find/read something good I try to look deeper in it and find more information, which is what I did with your last 2 posts on Day 1. Other than that, I've been finding no other 'scummyness'. This leads me to continue my vote on you.

And if anyone is a townie my evidence is pointing towards AGar. Whoever gave him the vest probably knows what he/she's doing...

[Espeonage]

Ok first thing before I do my reread.

Seing as it has been noted (Albeit only as an aside and a wtf is this) and I'm probably going to need bpv or doc tonight if scum aren't idiots and saw it.

I accidentally opened Andrius' bakery on my being vig.

So doc on me tonight and you may continue.

[farside22]

Hope you get caught up at work.

We'll lynch you here so you have one less thing to worry about. I know deception takes a toll on the mind, much harder than being a truthful honest citizen.

You want to give a case or keep bantering?

Anyways the thing that everyone missed with MOI's post on why far is scum was the following:

He calls me out for not saying anything about the Espy wagon. Doesn't explain why it's scummy not to say anything about a wagon that is dying.
Calls me out for not saying about about cooldog. This was a lie. I did mention something but was more focused on a growing wagon that seemed like a crazy Fate notion.

Why did farside mention that MOI was ignoring Gold scumminess and calling it newb?

BECAUSE GOLD NOT ONLY DID THE SAME THING BUT FOLLOWED FARSIDE.

God you people are dense.

Anyways I have to work today (not that Fate believes me) *asshole* and I don't trust you people not to hammer without waiting for a claim *cough Shadow* I the the Insomniac in the game (fitting considering I haven't slept well in 2 weeks).

I watched Fate last night because of how he was leading the lynch for CD and that alone is dangerous for scum to face. No one targeted him.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Does anyone at this juncture want to counter-claim either Farside or Esp? Because if they are lying they are 100% caught scum.

UNVOTE: Farside until such time as a counter-claim occurs.

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And if anyone is a townie my evidence is pointing towards AGar. Whoever gave him the vest probably knows what he/she's doing...

Are you suggesting that someone passed the Vest to AGar Night 1? That would indicate that whoever passed it to him (and no-one has claimed such) would be the confirmed Town and AGar is not.

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I accidentally opened Andrius' bakery on my being vig.

So doc on me tonight and you may continue.

Yeah, that’s not crumbing that’s blatant claiming …

Why did you kill Matlh? I’d like you to explain in your own words.

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First off that comment that MOI posted saying I asked for a vig claim is complete shit. There is no post I did such.

This is correct. That should have been attributed to Shadow. When composing my post I screwed that up. I apologize for the mistake.

He calls me out for not saying anything about the Espy wagon. Doesn't explain why it's scummy not to say anything about a wagon that is dying.

I found it suspect because it was a major event in the game to that point. Scum have much more reason to avoid making comments that take positions. You don’t suggest whether you think the wagon was warranted or scum-driven or null.

Calls me out for not saying about about cooldog. This was a lie. I did mention something but was more focused on a growing wagon that seemed like a crazy Fate notion.

You keep repeating this mis-rep. It’s not fact. What I originally wrote in my accusation is the following –

Here she notes the case on CooLDoG in the first sentence but finds an excuse to go after Town over scum based on Malth’s posts. I agree that Malth’s post did not make much sense (which is why I questioned him) but CooLDoG’s statement and subsequent responses to questions were pure scum-leaks. Farside, at the point of her vote, shifted the wagon on stupid Town ahead of obv-Scum.

Note that Farside does not address the wagon on Espeonage at all and doesn't mention CooLDoG after the light suspicion in 78.

So, once again – I suspect you for your light acknowledgement of CooLDoG’s scumminess after which you move to a Townie as opposed to scum when you vote Malth over CooLDoG, and that you never mention the CooLDoG wagon AFTER this post.

Which is true. So please explain how I was lying. Please.

Why did farside mention that MOI was ignoring Gold scumminess and calling it newb?

BECAUSE GOLD NOT ONLY DID THE SAME THING BUT FOLLOWED FARSIDE.

Can I get you to please explain the all-caps in clearer English. What I think you are asserting is that Gold did the same things I suspect you for and later than you did them and thus I am not being consistent. This is untrue.

He certainly didn’t soft accuse CooLDoG of scummy behavior and then vote Town. His RVS vote sat on Shadow. True he makes no mention of CooLDoG. That’s not what I found suspicious of you.

I watched Fate last night because of how he was leading the lynch for CD and that alone is dangerous for scum to face. No one targeted him.

Assuming your claim isn’t fake this means Fate was not protected or targetted. He can't be the failed target of a missing kill but still could be the source of one.

[Espeonage]

Two fold. 1. I had a scum read on him because of his over eagerness for a claim from me. 2. He seemed like a popular choice for the vig kill as alot of people were unsure of him for the same reason that I had a scum read.