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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:27 pm

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Twistedspoon wrote:
KingTwelveSixteen wrote: 8. Twistedspoon's continued defense to the arguments against him has been mostly AtE.
you were kind enough to put mostly in

:3

but srsly, Methinks you're still talking about my 'buddying' to you.
Well that wasn't what I was doing. It looks ambiguous and could be seen as that, but it wasn't.
and what's wrong with AtE if it keeps a townie alive? That's all that matters at the end of the day.
No prizes for logic.

But i see your point and have booted up my logic circuits now.
AtE is often seen as scummy, because it involves manipulation of factors that work outside of logic: appealing to one's emotional state.

That being said, there are plenty of town players in plenty of games that have used AtE arguments--it's not just scum that use it.

Also, TS, I dislike your argument about 'scum can push townie lynches with 100% confidence'. It's a well-known that you can find scum on the lynch wagons often: even those of the other scum. Look up bussing in the wiki.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:27 pm

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Ghostlin wrote: Also, TS, I dislike your argument about 'scum can push townie lynches with 100% confidence'. It's a well-known that you can find scum on the lynch wagons often: even those of the other scum. Look up bussing in the wiki.
Bussing is the other side of the coin

When scum vote a townie, they know they're voting a townie.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:44 am

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Prodding Forseti and Mute.




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Twistedspoon - 3 (gxw, Forseti, Mute)
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KingTwelveSixteen - 1 (FarmeriXi)
gxw - 1 (Charlie)
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:30 am

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FarmeriXi wrote:...
That isn't a voting style, that is a play style, and two times this game King has been on the wagon of those being pressured with multiple votes and both times I have seen a lot of play on the quotes of those players, but I haven't seen any real, original thoughts of King's personal thought.
...
...What? So
quoting
the people I am making cases against makes it so
nothing I say is original?
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:45 am

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Argh, Ghostlin... I'm having trouble forming a solid read on you. At some points you fit Town tells in my book and at others you fit the Mafia ones. Or maybe I'm getting prarnoid. What am I going to do with you?

Allright, how about you actually explain #174? Honestly, the picture I got was a kinda fragmented and I end up more confused than enlightened.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:27 am

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Charlie wrote:Or maybe I'm getting prarnoid.
Paranoid is perfectly normal. Only mafia don't have a reason to be paranoid.

Personally, I need more Foresti. My gut is quite uncomfortable with him, so Let's hope he respons to his prod.
Mute's vanished for 4 days too, but he's been prodded :/

So what does everyone else think of foresti, juts to start discussion whilst waiting for prods to be picked up?
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:48 am

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Charlie wrote:Argh, Ghostlin... I'm having trouble forming a solid read on you. At some points you fit Town tells in my book and at others you fit the Mafia ones. Or maybe I'm getting prarnoid. What am I going to do with you?

Allright, how about you actually explain #174? Honestly, the picture I got was a kinda fragmented and I end up more confused than enlightened.
Someone asked me why I supported a King lynch, I said that'd have to read above the comment where I said I supported that to see why I'd said why. However, all of that was before King's nine point case (which I'd have to reread, but a lot of times, a lot of scum don't put that much thought into their cases, choosing one or two easy points to attack their opponents on). I supported the King lynch mostly because of his 'I'm ready to hammer you' contradictions. Quickhammers on Day 1 are not protown.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:01 am

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VOTE: gxw

You need to answer the question I asked you and your eagerness to hammer concerns me.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:33 am

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I think everyone fells some eagerness to hammer because of the thrill of the flip; that's only natural.
However it isn't sensible and people usually don't hammer so early.

gxw merely said he was eager, but what matters at the end of the day is that he didn't hammer when he could have.

I'm not defending him, that's just my take on hia actions. I could be completely wrong, but that's just how I interpreted things.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:49 am

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Doh. I think you probably should have withheld that comment. Patience is a virtue. gxw needs to reply to that, not you.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:52 am

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just giving my interpretation of it since he said he'll be gone for a while

I'm trying to get discussion going again
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:56 am

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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:58 am

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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:37 pm

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Twistedspoon wrote:I think everyone fells some eagerness to hammer because of the thrill of the flip; that's only natural.
However it isn't sensible and people usually don't hammer so early.

gxw merely said he was eager, but what matters at the end of the day is that he didn't hammer when he could have.

I'm not defending him, that's just my take on hia actions. I could be completely wrong, but that's just how I interpreted things.
I want to say a few things here, but I don't really want to ruin the entire reason why his eagerness to hammer either hammer concerns me.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:49 am

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Ok, again I'm very sorry for this but life has intervened. I can't do this anymore. Sorry.

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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:06 am

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Looking for a replacement for gxw.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:09 am

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maybe some other time gxw?

I look forward to it ;)
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:57 am

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gah! i hate to follow lead here at such at time, esp as I am building a case from my reads thus far, but I must replace out too. I have not been able to add to any of what I have drafted since I last posted. My work schedule has been crazy the last too weeks as many people are calling out and needing schedule changes(I assume because the weather is nice). I will hopefully catch some of you around ms.net soon. Sorry, but i guess my thoughts will be better left unsaid.

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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:07 am

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._.
Okay; I'm not replacing out but saying why I took a step away.
Charlie I've been trying to see what you were talking about when you said you had gotten reactions better than you'd anticipated.

Also, I had something longer typed up but thanks to the joys of power cutting out and me not saving.. I'll get something up today. (on the bright side most of what I had written before was "i can't see a thing," so hopefully I'll be able to see something)
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:09 am

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:evil: You people are killing me :evil:


tclawren replaces gxw. Looking for a replacement for Farmer.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:19 am

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see you farmer

I look forwards to our third game :]

anyways, welcome tclawren
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:34 am

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Meransiel replaces Farmer.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:51 am

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Read only the last 3 pages so far, but from what I can see nobody has been acting specifically scummy.

I'll save my vote for later, after the disputes would reveal more.

By the way, AtE is natural, due to us being, uhh...human beings? I view it as an exclusively neutral tell.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:52 am

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Hiya Meransiel

Anyone who lists TvTropes and biology as their interests is cool with me :]
Looks like you're in my double day game too =D

anyways, we'll should give you some time to catch up. It's sad to see farmer and gxw go, but you guys should fit in fine too after catching up.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:55 am

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Oh, you're a troper too? So cool! (hope I won't develop a subconscious reluctance to voting you as a result)

Also, I promise I'll do my best to further on discussion over here. But, for the moment, time to go back and read the first 5 pages!
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