Metropolis: Revisited [Game Over]

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis: Revisited

, presented by

ReaperCharlie

Backup mods and Reviewers: SpyreX and Percy

You are at an amusement park in the downtown area of a large city called Metropolis. This is the fourth in a series of Mafia games which take place in the Metropolis universe; the first was run on another Mafia site with a very similar theme. Two gangs called the Skull-Crushers and the Night Riders have been terrorizing the patrons of the amusement park, and fighting over their turf. The Skull-Crushers are a gothic gang with chains and black hair, and the Night Riders are a biker gang with leather and spikes. The object of the game is save yourself and the rest of the Citizens, and root out the gang members and kill them off before they have a chance to hurt you and any of your friends! Beware, however. There are many dangers that await you in the heart of the Big City, so watch your back!

To learn more about

Metropolis

:

Revisited

, visit the wiki page.

Players

Still Alive

15.

Magua, Day Serial Killer

, survived and won the game!

The Not-So-Lucky

02.

Untrod Tripod, Night Serial Killer

, was shanked on Day 1.
05.

DrippingGoofball, Citizen of Metropolis

, was beaten to death on Day 1.
01.

AGar, The Mixmaster

, had his brains splattered on Night 1.
11.

Nachomamma8, Citizen of Metropolis

, was backstabbed on Day 2.
10.

ThAdmiral, Citizen of Metropolis

, was beaten to death on Day 2.
18.

AlmasterGM, Leader

of the

Night Riders

, was shot in the neck on Night 2.
17.

curiouskarmadog, Leader

of the

Skull-Crushers

, was shot in the neck on Night 2.
07.

MagnaofIllusion, Implicator

in the

Night Riders

, was shizzanked by a ghost on Day 3.
20.

Baby Spice, Member

of the

Night Riders

, was killed by the mob on Day 3.
21.

Bunnylover, Streetwalker

in the

Skull-Crushers

, was eviscerated on Night 3.
08.

Toogeloo, Citizen of Metropolis

, had his neck snapped on Day 4.
16.

Lady Lambdadelta, Implicator

in the

Skull-Crushers

, was killed by the mob on Day 4.
09.

KageLord, Metropolis Chief of Police

was shot in the head on Night 4.
14.

Hrezs, Metropolis Security Officer

was stabbed in the eye on Day 5.
12.

Exe, Member

of the

Skull-Crushers

, was killed by the mob on Day 5.
19.

Plum, Metropolis Security Officer

was stabbed in the heart on Day 6.
04.

Mute, Streetwalker

in the

Night Riders

, was beaten to death by the mob on Day 6.
23.

Kublai Khan, Paramedic

, was run down by a car on Day 7.
24.

camn, Citizen of Metropolis

, shot herself in the head on Day 7.
03.

Kise

the Selfless,

Paramedic

, was disemboweled on Day 8.
22.

StrangerCoug, Citizen of Metropolis

, was beaten to death on Day 8.
06.

Kast, Citizen of Metropolis

, took a throwing knife to the head on Day 9.
13.

Albert B. Rampage, Security Supervisor

, was brutally butchered on Day 9.

Important Events

»

Possible Role Distributions

revealed.

» Pregame/Confirmations

- Questions Answered.

» Day 1 Begins

- GummyBear » StrangerCoug - Wraith » camn - Untrod Tripod is shanked - DGB: 0, Louisville Slugger: 1.

» Night 1 Begins

- AGar is forcibly removed from the DJ booth.

» Day 2 Begins

- ObliviousDruidMuncher » Kast - Nachomamma8 is backstabbed - ThAdmiral goes out in style: à la DGB.

» Night 2 Begins

- AlmasterGM is shot in the neck - curiouskarmadog is shot in the neck.

» Day 3 Begins

- Friend » Xalxe - MagnaofIllusion is shizzanked by a ghost - Baby Spice is killed by the mob.

» Night 3 Begins

- Bunnylover is savagely eviscerated by a masked spectre.

» Day 4 Begins

- Xalxe » Mute - Toogeloo has his neck broken - Lady Lambdadelta is killed by the mob.

» Night 4 Begins

- KageLord kicks the bucket in grand style.

» Day 5 Begins

- Hrezs is stabbed in the eye - Exe is killed by the mob.

» Night 5 Begins

- Everyone survives through the night.

» Day 6 Begins

- Plum is stabbed in the heart - Mute is beaten to death by the mob - the

Inner Circle

is defeated.

» Night 6 Begins

- Everyone survives through the night.

» Day 7 Begins

- Kublai Khan was run down by a car - camn shoots herself in the head.

» Night 7 Begins

- Everyone survives through the night.

» Day 8 Begins

- Kise is disemboweled - StrangerCoug is beaten to death.

» Night 8 Begins

- Everyone survives through the night.

» Day 9 Begins

- Kast takes a throwing knife to the head - Albert B. Rampage is brutally butchered.

» Game Over — the

Day Serial Killer

wins the game!

Postgame Carnage

» Roles and PMs revealed

» Mod Notes revealed

» Night Actions revealed

» Randomization explained

» QuickTopics revealed

Rules

General Rules

(

BaM

»

RC

» Metropolis » 1.0)

1. Make sure to follow the sitewide rules, too.
   
2. Play to fulfill your win condition, as specified in your Role PM.
   
3. Each Day will last ~16 days; each Night will last ~48 hours. This may vary somewhat; probably not
   .
   [See below.]
   
   
4. Votes must be

   bolded

   and at the start of a line. Unvotes are not required to change your vote
   .
   [See below.]
   
   
5. Lynching requires a majority vote. If a majority is not reached before deadline, the Day will end without a lynch
   .
   [See below.]
   
   
6. When a majority is reached, Twilight begins. All players are allowed to post during Twilight, even the lynchee
   .
   [See below.]
   
   
7. One "Bah" post is allowed. Do not post anything that could be construed as game related information
   .
   [See below.]
   
   
8. Do not communicate outside this thread without permission. You will be told if you are an exception to this rule.
   
9. Do not quote any mod communication, or anything which originated outside of the game thread.
   
10. Caps lock (or the appearance thereof) can and will get you modkilled or force-replaced. Do not test me.
    
11. Do not edit or delete your posts, if you have access to do so.
    
12. Do not post in sizes smaller than the default, encrypt anything in your posts, or post in colors other than the default.
    
13. Prods occur after 72 hours without a post. After another 48 hours, a second prod is issued.
    
14. Unannounced inactivity for a week or more (regardless of game phase) results in modkill.
    
15. If you must go V/LA, please post a notice in-thread
    and
    send me a PM beforehand.
    
16. If you need to speak with me, you can either send me a PM or ask in-thread using
    Mod: Message
    . Both are fine.
    
17. Any and all of the above rules are subject to change at any time, and without notification.

Game-Specific Rules

1. Regular lynch voting will not occur in this game.
   In place of lynch votes, you may strike a blow to your target. As this signifies mob rule, blows cannot be taken back once placed. When 40%+ of players strike someone, it will cause them to be sent to the hospital tent at Night, and they will not be able to use any specialized role actions they may possess. However, enough blows struck (60%+ of living players) will kill someone. This is the equivalent of lynching someone in a normal game.
   Each player may strike only one blow per day
   , so choose wisely who it is you are beating on with that baseball bat.
   
2. The Inner Circle has one (1) bulletproof vest at their disposal.
   They may allow any one member of their group to wear it at any time. It will guard the player from any attacks directed at him, and has unlimited use. The bulletproof vest may change hands only once per phase, whether Day or Night. At the beginning of the phase, the Inner Circle must specify which member wears the bulletproof vest, and that player will be granted kill immunity for the entirety of the phase.
   
3. [Supersedes #3 above]
   Each Day will last ~21 days;
   each Night will last ~72 hours
   . This may vary somewhat; probably not.
   
4. [Supersedes #4 above]
   When you strike someone, it must be
   bolded
   and at the start of a line. You cannot take strikes back.
   
5. [Supersedes #5 above]
   Beating someone to death requires a 60%+ majority. If this is not reached before deadline, the Day will end without a death.
   
6. [Supersedes #6 above]
   When a 60%+ majority is reached, Twilight begins. Only players who have not been mob-killed may post during Twilight.
   
7. [Supersedes #7 above]
   "Bah" posts are not allowed.
   Do not post anything after you have been beaten to death by the mob.
   
8. [Supersedes both #3'

   s

   above]
   Important modification to the rules in this post:
   As of Day 8, this game will be Nightless.

[ReaperCharlie]

Hmmm. Suppose I should clarify on a couple of points:

Each player may strike only one blow per day.

I had thought it was obvious (maybe it was only obvious to me, sorry) that each player is only in control of one strike per day. Just think of it as one vote that can't be taken back. Anyway, this clarification has been edited into the ruleset, under #1 in the "Game Specific Rules" section.

This makes it so that you can only put one player above the 60% threshold, but you can roleblock two people per day effectively if you don't want to kill either of them (well, really, you can kill one and roleblock the other in some cases, but only on days when the percentages line up exactly. This was on purpose). Doing it this way shouldn't really affect endgame, because 4/6, 3/5, 3/4, 2/3 will all still come out to greater than 60%. The 60% being different than the 50% majority only affects down to 7 players, where four players only constitute a 57% majority, which will not be enough. After that, however, the "lynch threshold" for this game will be for all practical intents and purposes no different than a 50% majority. Again, this was on purpose.

@ABR #17:

You are correct. Everyone heals to 100% the next Day. Don't ask me how. Maybe the amusement park sells some kinda special juice with healing powers or something (HealJuice™, get yours today!). Or... maybe the Paramedics always try to help out the people who are crying out in pain each Night. Or perhaps even think up your own flavor justification, if neither of the aforementioned seem plausible to you. Either way, at the start of each Day, no matter how "struck" one was the day before (unless they were killed, obv), they will start at full health.

@Kise #19:

40% will disable any player-specific powers. For the purposes of this game, the Gang Leader holds the "power" of night-killing, even though any scum player may perform the kill. 40% strikes on a Gang Leader will remove his faction's ability to nightkill that night. Doing the same to an Implicator will remove their ability to Frame that night, and the same with the Streetwalker: they will not be able to Block that night. Doing this to the Night SK will block his kill for that night. Doing it to the Day SK will have no effect because he kills in broad daylight.

@Breaking Strategists:

It won't be

that

easy, I hope.

@MoI #28:

Thanks. lol

All players who have confirmed thus far have been bolded in the OP. We are

[edit: STILL]

waiting for one account to be activated, and that shouldn't take long.

[ReaperCharlie]

As the vast majority of players have confirmed by now... we might as well start.

---

Metropolis:

Revisited

— End of Night Zero

The sun was low in the sky, and patrons with children bustled around the park, trying to get in the last few rides before leaving for the day. The lines for the newest ride, Screamer, stretched for hundreds of feet. The atmosphere was somewhat tired as is common at the end of a long day, but excitement was evident in the crowd: soon the children would be gone, and the real fun would begin! The lines would be shorter, the alcohol would flow freely, and the good times would come thick and fast.

Cobalt blue and neon yellow-green lights lit up the night sky, and concession stands were stocked full with energy drinks and mixed beverages. The night became wilder; details became hazy as the collective level of inebriation among the park-goers gradually grew.

And as always happens when alcohol is involved, tension and one-upmanship also grew. Eventually, a fight broke out between some park patrons. Shouts were raised, and among the darkness lit by occasional blue and green lights, a brilliant flash was seen in conjunction with an unsilenced muzzle report. Simultaneously, silence fell in the crowd, and a strangled cry rang out from the hapless victim.

Someone had been shot! The crowd fell into turmoil. A man was seen dashing away from the crowd, but the vast majority of the park-goers were tipsy at best, and nobody saw where he went, and he disappeared into the shadows.

ReaperCharlie,

a poor, unfortunate

Citizen of Metropolis

, has been killed in cold blood!

---

Day 1 begins now. The deadline is April 3rd, 11pm PST (April 4th, 2am EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

This makes it so that you can only put one player above the 60% threshold, but you can roleblock two people per day effectively if you don't want to kill either of them (well, really, you can kill one and roleblock the other in some cases, but only on days when the percentages line up exactly. This was on purpose). Doing it this way shouldn't really affect endgame, because 4/6, 3/5, 3/4, 2/3 will all still come out to greater than 60%. The 60% being different than the 50% majority only affects down to 7 players, where four players only constitute a 57% majority, which will not be enough. After that, however, the "lynch threshold" for this game will be for all practical intents and purposes no different than a 50% majority. Again, this was on purpose.

It doesn't work like RC says -- you cannot roleblock and lynch someone, because it requires *greater* than 40% to roleblock and *greater* than 60% to lynch.

You've got 24 players, so 24 strikes D1. 40% of 24 is 9.6 => 10, 60% is 14.4 => 15. So 15 strikes will lynch someone, 10 will roleblock them. So D1, we can either lynch one person, or roleblock two.

If RC changes it to be greater than or equal, then on days where the # of living players is divisible by 5, we can lynch *and* roleblock. But, D1 will not be one of those days regardless.

Whoops, my wording was faulty once again.

It should be "greater than or equal to," or, 40%+/60%+.

It's now been updated in the rules. Carry on.

[ReaperCharlie]

@ DGB:

ReaperCharlie,

a poor, unfortunate

Citizen of Metropolis

, has been killed in cold blood!

... but I was actually a Death Anti-Miller. Shhhhh

[ReaperCharlie]

RC:

When a Gang Leader of a faction is killed, does that faction lose their nightkill? If not, who gains control of it?

No they do not loser their nightkill. If perchance the above specified situation should befall any faction, circumstance will revert to such that blocking the one who performs the action would accomplish the same as blocking the Gang Leader would have before his death.

[ReaperCharlie]

Yes Magua, it did.

I will begin to keep counts of who has struck whom once a few more blows have been thrown.

[ReaperCharlie]

Sad unwanted code is sad and unwanted.

Code: Select all

#include <cstdlib>
#include <iostream>
using namespace std;

Code: Select all

return 0;

[ReaperCharlie]

GummyBear has requested replacement.

First person on the replacement list is

Kast.

[ReaperCharlie]

GummyBear has requested replacement.

First person on the replacement list is

Kast.

Kast has declined to replace in at this time, preferring a later date.

StrangerCoug

replaces in for

GummyBear

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

MagnaofIllusion [1] – Toogeloo

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 24 alive, it takes 15 strikes to kill, and 10 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 3rd, 11pm PST (April 4th 2am EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Wraith has requested replacement.

Next replacement on the list is

camn.

---

Edit:

Indeed,

camn

replaces

Wraith

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

DrippingGoofball [2] – Albert B. Rampage, Nachomamma8

MagnaofIllusion [1]

– Toogeloo

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 24 alive, it takes 15 strikes to kill, and 10 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 3rd, 11pm PST (April 4th 2am EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

DrippingGoofball [10] – Albert B. Rampage, Nachomamma8, DrippingGoofball, Kublai Khan, StrangerCoug, Plum, Bunnylover, camn, Friend, Hrezs

MagnaofIllusion [1]

– Toogeloo

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 24 alive, it takes 15 strikes to kill, and 10 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 3rd, 11pm PST (April 4th 2am EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

DrippingGoofball [13] – Albert B. Rampage, Nachomamma8, DrippingGoofball, Kublai Khan, StrangerCoug, Plum, Bunnylover, camn, Friend, Hrezs, KageLord, Exe, Magua

MagnaofIllusion [1]

– Toogeloo

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 24 alive, it takes 15 strikes to kill, and 10 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 3rd, 11pm PST (April 4th 2am EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Day One: Madness

When most of you were watching things unfold, some decided to talk and yell at each other and start roughing up random people just for the sake of it. Not everyone followed this method, but many approved of its effectiveness. Soon, the most vocal dissenters saw one woman sitting apart, named DrippingGoofball. She seemed to have everything figured out, but sat back with a knowing smirk on her visage. That really angered some of the crowd, and they surrounded her and began to rough her up!

But suddenly, when nobody else was paying attention, one man saw a shadow from behind him coming up next to him. He turned around in surprise to see another man standing directly behind him with murder in his eyes. His face was partially hidden by a scarf, but what he held glistened for all the world to see.

*shannnk* *shink*

"URKKKKGKGGGHHH!" gurgled Untrod Tripod, as the blade sliced into his torso, first low, then high. Then, a quick slash across his neck, and he keeled over with blood flowing from his multiple wounds. The killer knelt down, wiped his knife on Untrod Tripod's coat, and disappeared to a place far removed from the frenetic action in the park, leaving his victim... a former rival, perhaps?... drowning in his own blood, and quickly bleeding out.

Untrod Tripod

,

the

Night Serial Killer

, has been brutally murdered on Day 1!

---

It is still Day 1. The deadline is April 3rd, 11pm PST (April 4th, 2am EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— End of Day One

---

DrippingGoofball [14] – Albert B. Rampage, Nachomamma8, DrippingGoofball, Kublai Khan, StrangerCoug, Plum, Bunnylover, camn, Friend, Hrezs, KageLord, Exe, Magua,

MagnaofIllusion

MagnaofIllusion [1]

– Toogeloo

Hadn't struck a blow yet

– AGar, AlmasterGM, Baby Spice, curiouskarmadog, Kise, Lady Lambdadelta, ObliviousDruidMuncher, StrangerCoug, ThAdmiral

---

The crowd, though aware of the carnage visited upon Untrod Tripod, hadn't had their blood lust sated just yet. In fact, if anything, it was only increased. The Metropolis park-goers realized that nothing was sacred; anything could happen now. And so to get rid of a perceived problem, multiple shouting members of the mob ran toward the lady sitting alone and speaking quiet wisdom, raining countless blows upon her with their fists and other blunt objects nearby.

But despite being repeatedly pummeled, the lady just kept grinning weirdly—like a psychopathic jester from hell—and simply wouldn't go down. So a brash young man named Albert B. Rampage brought out a metal baseball bat and took a flying leap towards her, swinging it with all his might as he sailed across the sky.

*crack!*

An explosion of blood erupted when the bat connected with her skull, and bits of bone and matter flew gratuitously into the crowd, sprinkling and spattering them with gore. A woman screamed. Blood dripping from his face and hands, Albert B. Rampage looked down at his new creation: a sick and twisted corpse lying in the amusement park walkway. He laughed maniacally as he searched her pockets for her ID, ravenously searching for vindication for himself and other vocal proponents of the savage beating.

But all he found was a driver license, and a bloody—but expertly written—handwriting analysis, critiquing a contestant from last year's Metropolis Poetry Summit. He read the handwriting analysis, sneered, and then threw it to the ground near the bloody corpse. Dropping the bat, he left it near the body. Regardless of the circumstances, looked around at the rest of the crowd for affirmation and approval of his rash actions.

DrippingGoofball

, a poor, unfortunate

Citizen of Metropolis

, has been beaten to death by the mob on Day 1!

---

It is now Night 1. The deadline is March 24th, 3pm PST (6pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Dawn of Day Two

---

They'd seen him coming a mile away. That blasted Asian DJ spinning his ridiculous anime soundtracks, instead of pumpin' the popular rock cuts and hip-hop tracks. And they couldn't have him throwing off their rhythm! They wanted to feel the beat, and have their hearts pounding along with the music as they slaughtered everyone else in the park!

And so they offed him. Not a word of correction; not a blink of compassion. One of them walked up on stage, straight up pointed a .44 caliber pistol at his temple, and coolly squeezed the trigger. And the hapless DJ's hyper-spastic Unicorn thoughts (along with a healthy smattering of his brain matter) were immediately pasted against the wall inside of the DJ booth. There would be no more Super Ultra Mixes in THIS park.

The evil figure then cut the power to the cybertronic supersonic dance floor, and disappeared into the night, leaving the dancing crowd wondering what had just happened, and trying to find their way to a place in the park that still had power.

AGar

, also known as

The Mixmaster, Citizen of Metropolis

, has been mercilessly killed on Night 1!

---

It is now Day 2. The deadline is April 14th at 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Have been pre-prodded O.o, will post soon.

Why would you have been prodded less than a day into Day 2?

Not a prod. Just reminding everyone who hadn't posted yet that the thread was open, since I forgot to do it at the beginning of Day 2 like I usually do.

Carry on.

[ReaperCharlie]

ObliviousDruidMuncher

has, obviously, requested replacement.

Kast

is next on the replacement list... Let's see if he's up to it...

[ReaperCharlie]

Kast

replaces

ObliviousDruidMuncher

, effective immediately.

[ReaperCharlie]

Thanks, I hadn't noticed that...

Plum is being super-prodded.

[ReaperCharlie]

Thanks, I hadn't noticed that...

Plum is being super-prodded.

Apparently Plum thought she sent me a V/LA pm... which I didn't receive.

Regardless, she sent me a PM saying she is back tonight and will post soon.

[ReaperCharlie]

Speaking of Inner Circle, I wonder if the entire team is eliminated if even one member dies since they can't win if even one player dies.

This is a really good question.

MOD: can you advise on wincondition?

Yes, I

could

.

To be clear: I've been asked this many times already.

[ReaperCharlie]

Also prodding Magna, Hrezs, and Bunnylover.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

KageLord [3] – ThAdmiral, Kublai Khan, curiouskarmadog

Kublai Khan [3] – Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, camn

ThAdmiral [1]

– Toogeloo

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 21 alive, it takes 13 strikes to kill, and 9 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 14th, 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

@Mod-

I'm pretty sure you didn't answer my question (and I'm too lazy to check if you did). I'll rephrase it for something a bit more relevant given our current situation:
-What happens if the DSK kills a player who has already been struck?
--Do players who struck the now dead guy get to strike again? (Assuming no)

[ No, they can't strike again. - RC ]

--Does a strike by the dead player still count? (Assuming yes)

[ Yes, it will still count. - RC ]

--Which strikes count towards the 40% & 60% thresholds?
---Is it based on number of living players?

[ ≥40% of living players to block, ≥60% of living players to kill. - RC ]

---Is it based on number of strikes already cast + number that can still be cast? (if so does it include strikes on the DSK's target)?

[ There are no fancy relativity formulas. It's simply ≥40% and ≥60% of living players. - RC ]

@Kast: Answers to your questions are integrated above.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

KageLord [3] – ThAdmiral, Kublai Khan, curiouskarmadog

Kublai Khan [3] – Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, camn

ThAdmiral [1]

– Toogeloo

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 21 alive, it takes 13 strikes to kill, and 9 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 14th, 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

inducing sister tonight or tomorrow, so I might be busy for the next couple of days...that being said, will have phone/internet, so I will do my best to keep up and post (2 sentences) while at the hospital waiting for my nephew to show.

Tell her "congratulations from a random person on the internet" for me!

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

KageLord [3] – ThAdmiral, Kublai Khan, curiouskarmadog

Kublai Khan [3] – Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, camn

ThAdmiral [2]

– Toogeloo, MagnaofIllusion

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 21 alive, it takes 13 strikes to kill, and 9 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 14th, 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

ThAdmiral [4] – Toogeloo, MagnaofIllusion, StrangerCoug, Nachomamma8

KageLord [3]

– ThAdmiral, Kublai Khan, curiouskarmadog

Kublai Khan [3]

– Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, camn

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– AlmasterGM, Bunnylover, Exe, Friend, Hrezs, KageLord, Kast, Kise, Lady Lambdadelta, Magua, Plum

---

With 21 alive, it takes 13 strikes to kill, and 9 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 14th, 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

ThAdmiral [6] – Toogeloo, MagnaofIllusion, StrangerCoug, Nachomamma8, Plum, Kise

KageLord [3]

– ThAdmiral, Kublai Khan, curiouskarmadog

Kublai Khan [3]

– Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, camn

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– AlmasterGM, Bunnylover, Exe, Friend, Hrezs, KageLord, Kast, Lady Lambdadelta, Magua

---

With 21 alive, it takes 13 strikes to kill, and 9 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 14th, 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Also, Friend has been prodded.

I used a really prickly cactus arm to prod him with; hopefully that helps...

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

ThAdmiral [9] – Toogeloo, MagnaofIllusion, StrangerCoug, Nachomamma8, Plum, Kise, Magua, KageLord, AlmasterGM

KageLord [3]

– ThAdmiral, Kublai Khan, curiouskarmadog

Kublai Khan [3]

– Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, camn

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Bunnylover, Exe, Friend, Hrezs, Kast, Lady Lambdadelta

---

With 21 alive, it takes 13 strikes to kill, and 9 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 14th, 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

@Mod-

If the IC player with the vest is lynched, does the vest disappear with him (and would town be notified of this?)

I would have thought that Bulletproof Vest implied Baseball-Bat-Proof, and surely Fist-Proof.

Still, you never know.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

ThAdmiral [11] – Toogeloo, MagnaofIllusion, StrangerCoug, Nachomamma8, Plum, Kise, Magua, KageLord, AlmasterGM, Kast, Exe

KageLord [3]

– ThAdmiral, Kublai Khan, curiouskarmadog

Kublai Khan [3]

– Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, camn

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Bunnylover, Friend, Hrezs, Lady Lambdadelta

---

With 21 alive, it takes 13 strikes to kill, and 9 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 14th, 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Day Two: "Hey whats up, dude?" *shank*

The more ThAdmiral screamed, the more you all found him guilty. He pleaded his innocence to a deaf audience. Less people than before bandwagoned for the sake of bandwagoning, and more people seemed to think they knew what they were talking about. But did any of them know what they were talking about? Nobody knew. Except, of course, ThAdmiral himself.

He began to fight back; his fists against flesh, pummeling his adversaries ribs and craniums, valiantly deciding that if nobody believed him that he would go down fighting. But the surge of the mob was just too much... He fell beneath the pile of rabid haters, fists and blunt objects afly at his every unprotected body part.

One of them stood back, admiring the ferocity of the others. He decided he'd rained enough blows on the man, and decided to watch the rest of them go to work. But during that split second when it seemed that everyone was in front of him and he could let his guard down, he forgot his cardinal rule: Always watch your six.

And so it was completely unaware that the dark figure sneaked up behind Nachomamma8... and with a high, swinging arc, stabbed him directly between the shoulder blades. Blood gouted from the wound, and the victim stumbled and coughed violently. The blade had pierced through his lung, and he gurgled and coughed again; a bright red spray spackled the back of his left hand, and he turned to face his attacker. The dark eyes flashed grimly, and with a haughty smile, the murderer disappeared from the scene, leaving Nachomamma to his horrific fate.

Nacho tried to scream for help, but only succeeded in coughing up more blood. He attempted to reach around and remove the blade from his back, but he could not. His last thought was to check the weapon's handle for fingerprints... he couldn't remember if the killer had been wearing gloves...

He slumped to the floor, drowning in his own blood.

There was no way he could have known that his killer had years ago sanded off any semblance of fingerprints, and that gloves or not, nobody had ever found a trace of fingerprints, or of any presence at all, for that matter.

Nachomamma8

, an unlucky

Citizen of Metropolis

, has been brutally murdered on Day 2!

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— End of Day Two

---

ThAdmiral [12] – Toogeloo, MagnaofIllusion, StrangerCoug, Nachomamma8, Plum, Kise, Magua, KageLord, AlmasterGM, Kast, Exe,

Lady Lambdadelta

KageLord [3]

– ThAdmiral, Kublai Khan, curiouskarmadog

Kublai Khan [3]

– Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, camn

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Bunnylover, Friend, Hrezs

---

During the hullabaloo with ThAdmiral, somebody who was feeling especially conscientious did a head count, subsequently realizing that there was one less member in the mob than before; and so it'd take one less for a majority vote. "I say we kill him!" said Toogeloo. The others nodded their heads in agreement, and as if scripted, Lady Lambdadelta grabbed the baseball bat from Albert B. Rampage, and finished ThAdmiral off with a series of devastating head blows. Blood was everywhere, and the weak at heart again shuddered at the gruesome sight.

ThAdmiral

, another hapless

Citizen of Metropolis

, was beaten to death by the mob on Day 2!

Then somebody wondered out loud: "Hey, where'd Nachomamma8 run off to... ?" They all looked around, but nobody could find him. The crowd scattered off to do other things, for they were a fickle bunch, and the park was growing dark again. The lights flicked on, and the good times rolled. Nobody thought twice about the innocent man they'd just killed.

---

It is now Night 2. The deadline is April 7th, 2pm PST (5pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Dawn of Day Three

---

The Skull-Crushers and the Night Riders had noticed something: There was a mole in each of their factions! And there was little to nothing they could do about it except to maintain constant vigilance that no

tigers

surprises would befall them unawares. For it was common knowledge that moles were sneaky-devious, if you know what I mean. And they couldn't have their gang operations interrupted constantly by a bunch of secret Illuminati-esque people secretly doing secret things... secretly. It just would not do.

So the leaders of both gangs decided to form a truce. Yes, a truce.

It had been decided. That day, they would get together and discuss probable strategies for a) finding and weeding out the moles within their midst, and b) wreaking even more havoc on the town than usual! And perhaps c) getting drunk in celebration of the end of the long bloody battle between the two large gangs, whose respective "turf" overlapped in this very amusement park, and whose respective members actually shared more in common with each other than they had differences.

The meeting place:

The Cooler, a concession where frozen drinks and other assorted goodies were sold during the daytime.

The meeting time:

Night time. The right time, duh. Half-past-midnight, an hour after the stand closed for the evening.

The terms:

No weapons. Well, maybe some. Alright, fine. Just don't try to use them, ok?

The two leaders showed up. They were alone, because they didn't want the park's Security Officers to catch on to what was transpiring that night. They wanted to wreak glorious chaos the next day, without the Officers even having a shadow of a clue. And so they got to discussing terms. And more terms. They had gotten down to the very heart of the matter and were discussing all of the details deeply and concentratingly, when suddenly, a loud noise was heard behind them.

Immediately, firearms were drawn. The peace was shattered as recently allayed suspicions leapt to the forefront of each man's mind. Each man had his weapon pressed into the other's throat. Both men broke out into a sweat as they looked at each other, sworn enemies for the past decade, having come together in a moment of need, to unite against the forces of good in a way that only two harbingers of evil could. Cold metal pressed into warm flesh, and each man gulped at the thought of the other man's shaking finger just barely grazing the trigger.

And then AlmasterGM saw the look in curiouskarmadog's eyes turn from fear into malice. And in that instant, both men knew they were going to die. Rounds already racked into the chambers, their fingers squeezed on the triggers simultaneously. Metal pins struck primer, gases detonated; shrapnel peeled from each round as it tore its way down the cold metal rifling of each pistol's barrel. Powder burn marks appeared on each man's neck just below his jawline, as each bullet entered into the soft skin, leaving the signature star-shaped rip of an entry wound as is signature of a contact shot.

Both men stumbled backwards with their necks blown wide open, exit wounds gushing blood gratuitously. Debilitated past all point of return, they looked into each other's eyes one last time before slumping to the ground only feet from each other. They expired within minutes.


The noisy bunny rabbit in the bushes, scared by the dual gunshots, turned his tail and hopped as quickly as he could away into the foliage.

---

curiouskarmadog, Leader of the Skull-Crushers

, and

AlmasterGM, Leader of the Night Riders

, have shot each other in the neck on Night 2!

---

It is now Day 3. The deadline is April 28th at 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

It appears Friend has flaked the site; he hasn't posted anywhere for about five days. There was no notice of V/LA.

Xalxe is next on the replacements list. Stand by.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Albert B. Rampage [1] – Toogeloo

Toogeloo [1] – Albert B. Rampage

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 17 alive, it takes 11 strikes to kill, and 7 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 28th at 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Xalxe replaces Friend, effective immediately.

He has stated that due to certain circumstances he'll have limited access on weekends, so he'll try to get his first post in today, but he may not be able to have a catchup post in until Monday. For more info, check out this post.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Toogeloo [2] – Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice

Albert B. Rampage [1]

– Toogeloo

MagnaofIllusion [1]

– camn

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 17 alive, it takes 11 strikes to kill, and 7 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 28th at 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh thanks. Sorry.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Baby Spice [2] – MagnaofIllusion, Lady Lambdadelta

Toogeloo [2] – Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice

Albert B. Rampage [1]

– Toogeloo

MagnaofIllusion [1]

– camn

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 17 alive, it takes 11 strikes to kill, and 7 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 28th at 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Plum has been caught sleeping on a bench again, and has been punched in the face.

[ReaperCharlie]

Ok, how about I shoot you in the face with this water gun? What does the bulletproof vest do? .....

Spoiler:

[ReaperCharlie]

Watashi wa kawaii desu ^//^

[ReaperCharlie]

Urusai!

And you need not go on, but remember: I have a @#&$ing WATER GUN!
Those things are unstoppable! Baseball bats are of no consequence.

Anyway... back to the game, haha!

[ReaperCharlie]

Plum has been super-prodified, and will get a baseball bat to the face courtesy of Lady Lambdadelta if she doesn't get her tushie in here... PDQ... and start posting just like everyone else. I see you posting in other games, Plum.

In regular-speak: She's about to be replaced for repeated stretches of inactivity, just like Friend.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Toogeloo [4] – Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, Bunnylover, Kast

Baby Spice [2]

– MagnaofIllusion, Lady Lambdadelta

Albert B. Rampage [1]

– Toogeloo

MagnaofIllusion [1]

– camn

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 17 alive, it takes 11 strikes to kill, and 7 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 28th at 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

I fixed it...

...because two dancing butt-waving pandas bookending the votecount are exactly what this game needs!

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Baby Spice [4] – MagnaofIllusion, Lady Lambdadelta, Magua, Hrezs

Toogeloo [4] – Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, Bunnylover, Kast

Albert B. Rampage [1]

– Toogeloo

MagnaofIllusion [1]

– camn

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 17 alive, it takes 11 strikes to kill, and 7 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 28th at 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Day Three: "Hello... Sidney."

The phone *rings.*

"Hello?" the man answers.

"Hello." a voice replies from the other end of the line.

"Who's this?"

"You tell me."

"How about

you

tell

me

? You're the one who called." the man replied.

"You tell me your name, I'll tell you mine."

"Um, no. What do you want?"

"I just want to talk..."

"Well, there's nothing to talk about if you don't tell me who you are."

"Do you like movies?" asked the voice.

"Yes, everyone does."

"Do you like

scary

movies?" the voice continues.

"No, I don't. They're usually more stupid than scary anyway. Goodbye."

"Wait a second, don't hang up. You still haven't told me your name."

"Why do you want to know my name?" replied the man, more annoyed than scared.

"Because I want to know who I'm

looking

at."

...

"What...?" said the man, eyes wide.

...

"I want to know who I'm... talking to." replied the voice.

"... that's not what you said before... " whispers the man, scared now.

"What do you think I said?" the voice intones.

"I have to go," said the man, whirling around and looking in all directions.

"If you hang up on me you're going to die, you little punk."

...

Now rushing toward his car, the victim's hair is raised on his neck: "Just leave me alone."

"What's the matter? I thought we were going to have a nice little chat."

"I don't think so..." said the victim, stepping into his car. "Goodbye now."

He hangs up the phone. *beep* ...and breathes a sigh of relief as he reaches the keys toward the ignition.

...

"Goodbye to you, too." The voice is right behind him.

He whirls around to look behind himself. An elongated white face, twisted into a scream. A flash of silver accompanies a sharp pain in his chest as the murderer's hunting knife comes down in a sweeping arc.

By the time anyone walked by and saw the puddle of blood growing below the car, the man was long dead.

MagnaofIllusion, Implicator

in the

Night Riders

, has been shizzanked by a ghost on Day 3!

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Baby Spice [8] – MagnaofIllusion, Lady Lambdadelta, Magua, Hrezs, Plum, Kise, Kublai Khan, Exe

Toogeloo [4]

– Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, Bunnylover, Kast

Albert B. Rampage [1]

– Toogeloo

MagnaofIllusion [1]

– camn

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 16 alive, it takes 10 strikes to kill, and 7 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 28th at 7pm PST (10pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

No one else strike yet.

@Mod:

1. Would the Inner Circle member flip as the Inner Circle?
2. Would we get any notifications of an Inner Circle death?

If it's confirmable that Magna was not the Inner Circle member of the Night Riders, then Baby Spice can still tell us who is.

Let's see... my mod notes tell me not to answer any questions about the Inner Circle... so...

I couldn't say.

[ReaperCharlie]

[off-topic]

Making assumptions like that is not going to get you very far with the "outlive the bastards" part of your sig, ABR.

[/off-topic]

[ReaperCharlie]

You are correct.

[ReaperCharlie]

Resolution reverts to such that blocking the member of the killing faction that is performing the kill will block the kill, as per usual.

[ReaperCharlie]

Here, let me just forward you a copy of the setup.... oh wait.

[ReaperCharlie]

Here, in public: Nobody "determines" the kills, per se. People just have to trust each other, or not. That's one of the themes of this game, duh. But if there were conflicting opinions and neither of them agreed with the other, and both chose different people and wanted to perform the kill themselves (one or both of them thereby giving up their PR to perform a different kill than the other wanted), then neither kill would go through. In the absence of a leader, scum teams have to agree on a kill for it to go through. Hope that's explanatory enough.

[ReaperCharlie]

And

no more

freaking questions! I'm not saying any more!

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— End of Day Three

---

Baby Spice [10] – MagnaofIllusion, Lady Lambdadelta, Magua, Hrezs, Plum, Kise, Kublai Khan, Exe, KageLord,

StrangerCoug

Toogeloo [4]

– Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, Bunnylover, Kast

Albert B. Rampage [1]

– Toogeloo

MagnaofIllusion [1]

– camn

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Xalxe

---

"Get away from me!" she screamed. "You're all traitors! Traitors, to the core!"

They looked at her like she'd gone from normal to insane, all in the space of a few seconds. Mostly because... well, she had. They kept their distance as she continued to scream.

"You did this to me!" she sobbed. "Look at me! You stabbed me in the back! ...and I don't know what else there is

left

..." her voice faltered, and she crumpled into a heap on the ground.

One of them decided to go over to her and see if there was anything he could do to help. His reward was scratch marks on the face from her fingernails, and more screams and sobs hurled at him as he recoiled.

Most of the crowd was content to leave her; to simply walk away and forget about her... sometimes there was nothing that could be done. But some stayed to listen to her pitiful rants, in hopes that she'd spill a little more information; these were tough times, and people were dying. They were soon rewarded.

"I used to kill you people!" she continued. "I would sneak up and blow you away in your sleep! Nobody could "handle" me then! I was strong... I used to be so strong..." Her voice broke.

She wept on the ground for a minute or two, and the people around looked at each other in wonderment. Suddenly, she stood, and began shouting frantically.

"And then I found out he was lying to me!" she raged. "He said he would help me kill you all, but noooooo! He was always sneaking around... so sneaky, so silent..." she broke down and started sobbing again... then looked back up, her eyes flashing.

"HE WAS TRYING TO KILL ME!" she bellowed, her face red. "HE WAS TRYING TO KILL US ALL!"

She began to lunge at people around her, first one, then the other. Trying to punch them, kick them, hurt them in any way possible.

"And now I'm going to kill you all, for not believing me!!" she was hysterical. She pulled a pistol from her backpack and brandished it with clear intent to use it. People began to scatter.

*Crack!*

A shot rang out. Smoke poured from a gaping hole in her forehead, and a man named StrangerCoug lowered a pistol of his own. Murmurs from the onlookers caused him to realize what he'd done; quickly he wiped the handle of the gun with his shirt, to get rid of the fingerprints, and threw it into a nearby trash receptacle, as if there hadn't been almost ten other witnesses.

"Not a word of this to anyone else," he breathed, trembling at what he'd done. "You saw her! She was going crazy -- CRAZY! She was about to shoot someone!" he spoke insistently. Murmurs of assent swirled through the crowd, some just nodded in agreement, their faces serious and solemn. And then everyone scattered, leaving the crazed girl in a puddle of her own blood.

Baby Spice, Night Rider

, had been killed by the mob on Day 3!

---

It is now Night 3. The deadline is April 16th, 3pm PST (6pm EST).

(

Note:

I have a busy weekend planned and might not be able to open it right on time, sorry.)

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Dawn of Day Four

---

There was unrest in the building.

"I

know

it's you... It

has

to be you!" she shouted, pointing a finger at her counterpart with inimitable rage and disgust. "Just like happened with Baby Spice and MagnaofIllusion, you just want to stab me in the back when I'm not looking!"

"You're being completely unreasonable." her counterpart replied, defensively and not without passion of his own. "Just because they never found any evidence doesn't mean that one of them wasn't in the Inner Circle!"

"Yeah, and I'm sure one of them could have been, just like you are!" she raged back, panting for breath after yelling for so long. This argument had gone on for almost half an hour, with neither one able to gain any ground or convince the other of anything.

"You know what... that's it. I'm out of here," she said, and her counterpart watched her storm out of the building. As soon as she was outside the door, she remembered to turn around to slam it. As she looked back, she saw her counterpart watching her leave in disgust.

But suddenly, she saw his eyes widen in terror. "Hey!" he choked, and then found his voice "HEY... BEHIND YOU!!!" he pointed and yelled, looking genuinely frantic and afraid.

She whirled about to face what he was pointing at, but by that time, it was already too late. A dark, masked figure was standing behind her, hunting knife in hand. Before she had time to even scream, he had shoved the blade into her stomach, and began sawing it jaggedly across her body, releasing her entrails from their meaty prison. As she watched in horror, he finished and ripped the knife from her stomach, splattering gore and blood gratuitously across the ground just outside the compound's only exit. She looked up into the eyes of her killer, but only an empty blackness stared back at her. The ghastly face was the last thing she saw as she slumped to the ground, surrounded by her own intestines.

Her counterpart had watched, helpless, from only twenty feet away, powerless to intervene; it had all happened so fast.

Looking up with that same ghostly stare, the killer raised the knife in front of his own face, and with a gloved hand, wiped the blood from the blade.

And then he disappeared.

---

Bunnylover, Streetwalker

in the

Skull-Crushers

, has been eviscerated on Night 3!

---

It is now Day 4. The deadline is May 7th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Friend/Xalxe's lack of content is worrisome.

My thoughts exactly. I haven't heard from him since April 11th, and looking at his profile I can see that even though he has posted onsite since then (up until the 14th), he still hasn't bothered to poke his head into this game.

F#$% this slot. *sadface*

Sending a PM to the next replacement on the list:

Mute

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

StrangerCoug [1] – Lady Lambdadelta

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 14 alive, it takes 9 strikes to kill, and 7 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 4 is May 7th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Lady Lambdadelta [2] – Exe, StrangerCoug

StrangerCoug [1]

– Lady Lambdadelta

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 14 alive, it takes 9 strikes to kill, and 7 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 4 is May 7th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Sending a PM to the next replacement on the list:

Mute

.

Mute

replaces

Xalxe

, effective immediately.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Lady Lambdadelta [6] – Exe, StrangerCoug, camn, Magua, Albert B. Rampage, Kast

StrangerCoug [1]

– Lady Lambdadelta

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Hrezs, KageLord, Kise, Kublai Khan, Mute, Plum, Toogeloo

---

With 14 alive, it takes 9 strikes to kill, and 7 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 4 is May 7th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Lady Lambdadelta [7] – Exe, StrangerCoug, camn, Magua, Albert B. Rampage, Kast, KageLord

StrangerCoug [2]

– Lady Lambdadelta, Hrezs

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Kise, Kublai Khan, Mute, Plum, Toogeloo

---

With 14 alive, it takes 9 strikes to kill, and 7 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 4 is May 7th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Gomen nasai, shinzoo-no-hime-sama!

Dooshite gomen o hanashita? Istumo waruihito ga shinakerebanaranai yo.
DE MO eigo daKE kakinasai. Kore ga CODE desune? Nihonho kin shi.

ENGLISH ONLY! WTF

/inb4 "B-b-but you were Japanesing earlier too, Reaper!"

Haha <3

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Day Four: Planning and Execution

He never saw it coming.

On the way to the concession stand (hey, everyone needs to eat, even in times like these), the hapless citizen strode warily along one of the park's twisted myriad of paved pathways. One could never be too careful, especially in times like these. But as he passed a certain clump of bushes, he heard a sudden shuffle just behind him and to the right. He turned his head in fear...

Just in time for a strong pair of arms to lock around his head and neck. One grabbed his jaw, one held the back of his head in place. His eyes grew wide with hysteric panic, and he began to struggle. He did not realize until the split second before—what was about to happen...

With a sickening crack, the killer wrenched his victim's neck at an unnatural vector, snapping it like a glowstick at a night club. Which, coincidentally, was where the park staff found the young man's body that night when they opened; what remained of the body had been shoved into the audio closet... after having been butchered mercilessly.

Toogeloo

, an unlucky

Citizen of Metropolis

, has been brutally murdered on Day 4!

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— End of Day Four

---

Lady Lambdadelta [8] – Exe, StrangerCoug, camn, Magua, Albert B. Rampage, Kast, KageLord,

Mute

StrangerCoug [2]

– Lady Lambdadelta, Hrezs

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Kise, Kublai Khan, Plum

---

The game was the same today, but the players were different. Paranoia had swept the park after people began dying. Usually the even-headed people were the first to start planning. And usually the people with the guns were the ones who were most paranoid. It began to show.

Just the day before, a woman had been screaming about a man stabbing her in the back for his own gain; today, it was a man who brought the same charge against a woman. He implored the citizens to put her out of business, because she had been killing them night after night in a series of planned murders. She came out with eyes blazing, accusing him of exactly the same thing! As the park-goers of Metropolis looked around at each other, they didn't know what to do, or who to believe. And so the man began to rough up the lady, telling her things about her that he'd always hated, and shoving her around.

"I'll be free from you now," he said with a smug grin. "Just watch. They'll see my side of things, and you'll be just like that jilted lovergirl from yesterday. Friendless. Brainless. Helpless. Hopeless! You'll die by their hands, and I'll be right there to watch, laughing all the way."

And with that, he punched her in the face, and as her head snapped back, blood streamed out her nose and down her face, marring the beauty that had once graced her visage with the crimson stain of guilt and betrayal.

And he was not the only one. Another stepped in to strike a blow at her, and another. One of the first was the man with the gun from yesterday who'd shot the girl screaming betrayal, and another was the man who'd taken a baseball bat to the head of yet another woman, but on the first day. Everyone was getting into it, and began to beat the living daylights out of this poor girl.

She screamed at them, "He's part of the Inner Circle! Can't you see? He's orchestrating this whole thing and you are walking right into a trap!"

Another one this time, a girl, stepped in with some metal knuckles and punched her in the stomach. She coughed up blood.

"Why didn't you strike the first blow on him, then?" someone asked.

"Because, I thought I could trust him! At least,

he

said he was going to trust

me

, anyway! I was... I was..." her voice faltered.

A newcomer to the scene had appeared in front of her. He held a knife, and he walked toward her with a silent but purposeful stride.

He plunged the knife into her heart, silencing her pleas.

Lady Lambdadelta, Implicator

in the

Skull-Crushers

, has been killed by the mob on Day 4!

---

It is now Night 4. The deadline is April 21st, 4pm PST (7pm EST).


T

his is a reminder to all players that they should be up-to-date with both the rules and the the wiki page for this game. I made a mistake beforehand when copying over the setup from the previous game's wiki page, which has now been fixed. This has been a public service announcement from your friendly neighborhood ReaperCharlie.

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Dawn of Day Five

---

He'd been watching. Waiting. Observing everything that had gone on.

And now he had seen it happen, and he was going to find out who had done it. Never mind that the person was wearing a mask; never mind that he'd been led on what felt like a wild goose chase across the city for almost half an hour: He knew it this time. This one was one of

them

. He'd been tailing them in his undercover patrol car for miles, through boroughs, under bridges, at stoplights, and finally, crossing back and forth between city and state property at the edge of the city's border. When the luxury sedan turned south and traversed the border one more time, heading directly toward its destination, he smiled. They were leading him home.

Nearly twenty miles outside the city limits, the vehicle he was tailing slowed to turn onto a dirt road, hidden until that point by overgrowth, more of a game trail than a street. The rough packed dirt was full of bumps, and the car's tires sent up loads of dust. He kept his distance, making sure to stay carefully out of sight and hearing. Creeping along at an extremely slow rate of speed, he came to a stop before he crested a hill, wary of making himself a silhouette in case they were scouting behind them even at this point. Looking at the road, he could see the other car's tire tracks continue on over the top, and in the sky he watched the dust trail intently. It continued for another minute at least, becoming fainter and fainter. But soon it came to a stop, and the trail dissipated.

Elated, he stepped out of his car, checking his weapon and ammunition. He went around back to the trunk, and pulled out a bulletproof vest. A necessity in times like these. He reminded himself that such a devious organization would undoubtedly have taken the same precaution, so he reminded himself to shoot for the head, if bad came to worse.

He crept to the edge of the hill, watching carefully for any movement as his line of sight peaked the horizon and spread down the other side. A farmhouse, old and by the look of it, abandoned for years, stood a few hundred yards down a slight slope, in the middle of an otherwise barren hillside. And parked just next to it: the vehicle he had tailed for over an hour now. He scouted around: There were trees in a forest nearby, and scattered shrubbery speckled the landscape, but there was no obvious path of cover from the foliage to the structure.

He decided some was better than none, and chose the path with the greatest amount of cover (which was still sparse, by anyone's standards), and sneaked toward the farmhouse, weapon drawn.

As he drew nearer and nearer, he watched the windows, and cracks in the doors, for any sign of movement; for any flash of light, perhaps off a metal gun barrel waiting to end him. But nothing was there to be seen. He reached the front door without event, and his heart let out a little sigh of relief. He put his ear up to the door...

Voices, speaking gently and in hushed tones. He was listening to the killers at this very moment. His pulse began to quicken: They were discussing who they were admitting to all manner of horrible deeds, and discussing what the next plan would be! Heart now pounding in his chest, he decided that it would be better for him to sneak around to an alternate entrance so as to avoid any booby traps they might have set at the main one. Halfway around the building, he found a window with no panes left, and slipped inside. The voices were louder now.

He listened to the conversation for another few seconds, and was about to make his move, but then the topic turned: They began to discuss who they would kill next. His blood ran cold. He heard intimate details about each and every person they discussed; some were things that nobody could have known. And then his heart skipped a beat as he heard his own name.

"Him? Nah, he's too valuable at this point," one of the voices said. "We've tricked him before, and we can do it again. He can help us lead everyone else off a cliff, and by that time, it'll be too late for anyone to stop us."

A soft chuckle escaped the lips of a more sinister-voiced conspirator.

"What makes you think that he's not being tricked at this very moment?" the voice intoned.

His blood froze in its veins.

"What do you mean?" asked the first voice again.

"Don't play coy," said the deeper voice. "It's not very nice to keep him hanging. After all, you were the one who planned this op."

"Aw, why did you have to spoil it? I wanted to see the look on his face!"

"No, it's gone on quite long enough." the deep voice replied, and then it gave a command, "Take him."

And at that moment, the man knew he was a goner. He knew it even before he felt the cold steel of a pistol barrel come to rest against his sweating temple. He cursed to himself. All of his planning, all of his investigation, his tracking, his research; all of it, down the drain. This had all been an elaborate dry cleaning run. And he had walked right into the trap. And only now, at the end, did he understand.

He closed his eyes in bleak despondence as the bullet penetrated his skull.

---

KageLord, Metropolis Chief of Police

, has been shot in the head on Night 4!

---

It is now Day 5. The deadline is May 9th at 6pm PST (9pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Exe [2] – Kublai Khan, Mute

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 11 alive, it takes 7 strikes to kill, and 5 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 5 is May 9th at 6pm PST (9pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Strike: Exe

Don't go anywhere, RC.

*thumbs nose at Kise, and hops in the car to drive home and play Portal 2*

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Exe [4] – Kublai Khan, Mute, StrangerCoug, Kise

Magua [1]

– Exe

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 11 alive, it takes 7 strikes to kill, and 5 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 5 is May 9th at 6pm PST (9pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

With Exe dead, it guarantees that the IC have lost (at least their supposed initial win condition).

I don't know RC edited it on 13th but I swear it earlier said they win when ALL members alive.

To be clear: That was the mistake I mentioned in this post. What this means is that people were operating under false assumptions until that point, but it was an honest mistake on my part, and I felt that to leave it as it had been mistakenly copied as (and to change the actual setup in the middle of the game in order to match the wiki) would have been much worse than to just inform people of the mistake.

The mistake itself was that when copying over the Metropolis: Revisited wiki page from the previous Metropolis game with this setup and changing everything to be correct for this game, that was something I forgot to change. The IC do not lose if a member of them dies. This setup is much different than the old one, as noted here:

Major differences between the games include increased Day and Night length, heavy modification of the ruleset and roles, and a great increase in the overall player count.

Though the initial theoretical idea of the Inner Circle is the same, the stipulations regarding them are quite far removed from what they were in the first game. I recommend reading both wikis (and if you want to, both games) games if you want to see which things are different and which things are similar. It was played on another site, but the information is clearly linked to on the wiki page for the old game.

I recommend everyone read over the wiki page for

this

game again and make sure you are familiar with all aspects of it.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Exe [5] – Kublai Khan, Mute, StrangerCoug, Kise, Albert B. Rampage

Magua [1]

– Exe

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– camn, Hrezs, Kast, Magua, Plum

---

With 11 alive, it takes 7 strikes to kill, and 5 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 5 is May 9th at 6pm PST (9pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Let me know

ASAP

whether you need replacement, or if you can play.

SCREW YOUR SLOT, FFFF

[ReaperCharlie]

alright, situation resolved.
(the cord's frayed at the end so i've got tape wrapped around it to keep it together. every so often it skitzes out like it did today and takes a bit to get it to send a charge to the laptop again. (damn thing's near 6~7 years old as it is, so the battery doesn't even last more than twenty minutes unplugged))

Alright. Thanks for the heads up in any case, though.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Day Five: Brutal Efficiency

Things were getting easy now.

The murderous one had decided to go for bigger game. Hanging around the Security Officer shack, his eyes narrowed as he chose his prey. That one standing by himself, not saying too much. He'd do. For now.

As he left to go on a bathroom break, he didn't check behind him, even after he got into the bathroom. His training had never protected him before, why should it now? He sighed. He had never even seen a crime being committed; he'd only ever heard about them up until this weekend. And then people had begun to be slaughtered left and right. Still, he was unfazed. He was a Security Officer, nobody ever came close to them. They were the ones who people avoided when they committed crimes.

But that was where he was wrong.

As he sat on the crapper, grunting and groaning, he heard a tapping noise coming from the stall next to him. What could that be? He bent over, looking under the stall to see what kind of feet were next to him. You could tell a lot about women from the shoes they wore, maybe you could tell a lot about men, too. But there were no feet in the stall next to him. He shrugged and continued his seemingly ineffective exertion, and was concentrating very hard, when... that noise again. He stopped; he could not continue while distracted.

He put his ear up to the stall wall: Nothing. No sound whatsoever. Was he imagining things? He pulled his head back, and saw some screw holes in the stall wall, which had been used in mounting the previous iteration of the toilet paper roll dispenser. He put his eye up to one of the holes to try to look through. He could see nothing at first... but all of a sudden, he saw movement.

A knife stabbed directly through the hole and into his waiting eye socket. The blade penetrated back through to his cerebral cortex, causing a massive brain hemorrhage. The young man struggled to live for a few more seconds, but blood poured out his eye socket and his vision in the other eye began to blur and fade away... the last thought he had was that he was going to die on an amusement park toilet.

Hrezs

, a careless

Security Officer

, has been brutally murdered on Day 5!

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— End of Day Five

---

Exe [6] – Kublai Khan, Mute, StrangerCoug, Kise, Albert B. Rampage,

Kast

Magua [2]

– Exe, camn

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Hrezs, Magua, Plum

---

He'd been given a new lease on life, so to speak. Well, not a new one, just an extension on one that he knew was about to expire.

And then would come foreclosure. How poetic.

They'd had plenty of leave to kill him yesterday. Why hadn't they? He'd pondered this confusing thought time and again as he racked his brain for ways to somehow pull himself out of this mess. How had it come this far? Why had it all gone wrong? There must be some way... some how... a way to reverse the downward spiral... a way to get out of the maelstrom of problems he'd created for himself...

But it was not to be. There were just too many of them, and he couldn't escape now.

They surrounded him, and they were quick to put him out of his misery. The one who landed the final blow was a man named Kast. His eyes were hard as he cracked the mob's target repeatedly over the skull with a golf club. As the lights swirled together and disappeared, he slumped to the ground amidst the crowd, vaguely aware that the red puddle around him was being splattered with fresh blood, again and again...

And then he slipped away.

Exe, Member

of the

Skull-Crushers

, has been killed by the mob on Day 5!

The

Skull-Crushers

have been defeated.

---

It is now Night 5. The deadline is April 26th, 4pm PST (7pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Many thanks to Kinetic, for taking care of the game while I was out celebrating an anniversary weekend getaway with my wife! <3

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Dawn of Day Six

---

It had finally happened.

The citizens of Metropolis had chosen to section themselves off in tight little groups (while still trusting nobody but themselves, of course) and wait out the night with multiple people on watch, at staggered times of the night and within plain sight of each other, so that there would be no shenanigans. And for the first time in almost a week, it appeared to have worked! One by one, the citizens awoke, and checked their bodies for knife wounds or bullet holes. And nary a one was found.

...Nobody died last night.

The citizens shuddered, however, as they realized that probability dictated the probability of the continued existence of a killer, or killers, in their midst, and that perhaps they were merely biding their time, until the perfect moment to strike. They readied themselves for the day with a renewed sense of hope and urgency, and yet could still not shake the vestiges of fear from their minds.

---

It is now Day 6. The deadline is May 10th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

@ABR-
I don't recall seeing security supervisor anywhere in the wiki...

@Mod-

Is it possible that there are roles in this game that are not listed in the wiki?

See the OP? First link under Important Events. Click it.

Profit.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Mute [1] – Albert B. Rampage

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 9 alive, it takes 6 strikes to kill, and 4 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 5 is May 10th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

No, it does not specifically mention all possible role names by name.

[ReaperCharlie]

Plum is V/LA until Tuesday/Wednesday (sorry, I forgot to update it in the OP, she sent it by PM over the weekend when I was also away).

Kise has been prodded.

[ReaperCharlie]

Hey, everyone:

*Prod*

Let's try to get activity up. Nobody likes a game that drags.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Mute [2] – Albert B. Rampage, StrangerCoug

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 9 alive, it takes 6 strikes to kill, and 4 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 5 is May 10th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Mute [3] – Albert B. Rampage, StrangerCoug, Kise

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 9 alive, it takes 6 strikes to kill, and 4 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 5 is May 10th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

---

Mute [4] – Albert B. Rampage, StrangerCoug, Kise, Kublai Khan

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

---

With 9 alive, it takes 6 strikes to kill, and 4 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 5 is May 10th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Important Note:

I will be V/LA again this weekend, due to a certain situation. If Night comes before I leave, then the Night will be extended to cover the weekend. If not, then please direct your questions to the backup mods, and failing a reply from them, the list mod. Sorry for any inconvenience (if there is one), but hey. Life happens.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Day Six: And Ne'er She Wept

One of them had been being very quiet.

Looking at her, standing by herself, off to the side, a decision was made by the indiscriminate killer. It was not the time to let the lurkers lurk and the skaters skate. It was time for blood. Walking over, the hunter buttered up the prey, making small talk with the girl, and just sharing some back-and-forth about how things had been going in the park, about how scary it was... and who would be likely to die next. When asked this question, the girl seemed thoughtful for a moment, and then decided to herself: "I don't know, actually. Everyone seems equally likely to be someone good, but at the same time I don't think I could trust anyone."

"With your luck, and standing alone by yourself like this, it's a wonder you're not dead already..." said the spider to the fly.

"Oh, but I'm covered. I've got a pistol in my boot that I can reach quickly if anything serious is going down." the fly replied.

"Really now..." the killer mused, smiling sweetly, all innocence. "And what would you do if, say, I were to do something like THIS--!" and rammed a huge hunting into her chest. She choked up blood almost immediately, only seconds after her lungs ruptured. The look in her eyes was nothing but shock and disbelief. There was no fear, for she already knew what had been done and what must unfortunately follow. And indeed it did follow.

The killer pulled the large knife out, and then plunged it in again. And again.

And again.

Choking up blood, she could barely talk as she struggled to utter: "I ... you ... who..." just before she expired.

The killer wiped the knife clean on the dead girl's clothes, and disappeared into the bushes.

Plum

, a hapless

Security Officer

, has been stabbed in the heart on Day 6!

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— End of Day Six

---

Mute [5] – Albert B. Rampage, StrangerCoug, Kise, Kublai Khan,

Kast

Hadn't struck a blow yet

– camn, Magua, Mute

---

You surrounded him. Each and every last one of you. Not all of you were wielding weapons of opportunity, but not a one of you was going to be left out of this.

"It's him." Kast said. "It's got to be."

"How do you know?" exclaimed others, mostly those too squeamish to get any blood on their own hands.

"It's in his eyes." he replied. "Something about them doesn't feel right."

Everyone looked into Mute's eyes, looking for something to betray his evil nature. It was obvious to those who perceived him in the condemning light of confirmation bias, but not so much to those who hadn't been paying much attention to the recent goings-on. But like sheep, they could be led to do even the most undesirable things as long as they blindly put their faith in the self-proclaimed leaders.

"It's him all right," Kast continued, and this time he hefted a 6-iron he'd found in AGar's old DJ booth. He ran at Mute with a gleam of rage in his own eyes, and swung for all he was worth at Mute's head. A meaty crack was heard as the victim's head snapped to the side; his neck had clearly been broken.

"Why did you kill him?" someone screamed? A woman, it sounded like. "He was an innocent man!"

"Was he?" Kast demanded, looking around at everyone, challenging them with his flashing eyes. "WAS HE?"

He reached into the newly dead body's trouser pockets and pulled out all manner of personal effects, attempting to ascertain the allegiance of the one he'd just slain, for any kind of proof that he'd been evil, malicious, or had connections with anyone else who they'd found had also been. And he found what he was looking for. A cell phone. He flipped it open, and began paging through the contacts list.

"Here!" he stood up, holding the phone so all could see. "He has contacts from the Night Riders on his phone!"

The rest of the crowd clustered around him intently.

"See? MagnaofIllusion, Baby Spice, AlmasterGM... they're all here." he spoke, vindicated in his own right. The naysayers in the crowd quickly fell silent, and no more dissent was made.

For they had killed another gang member.

Mute, Streetwalker

in the

Night Riders

, has been killed by the mob on Day 5!

And that's not all.


Suddenly, Mute's body fell to the floor, it began to shake... his mouth opened, and a ghostly green wisp began to emanate from his gaping throat. You could see his eyes, albeit closed, moving around violently, as if he was in R.E.M. sleep and was having a terrible nightmare. The heavy purple bruise on his left temple coupled with the unnatural angle of his head's attachment to the rest of the body completed the ghastly illusion.

And then it got really weird.

Partially unintelligible gibberish began to issue forth from his lips, speaking at a mile a minute. He spoke so fast it made most of your heads hurt, and you could feel sympathy for him regardless of what you could hear him admitting he'd done to you. The spirit of his body was making him ramble on and on about the killings they'd planned, and executed with military precision. Where had it gone wrong, where was it still going wrong? He mumbled on and on, and finally, you began to understand. He

was

the one... like Kast had said, but in a different way. Not the one who deceived you all, the one who had lied and killed you in your sleep... he was the one who could set you free, and teach you the ways of the world in such a way that your mind would transcend earthly things. The one who could lead the way.

But all of a sudden, in the midst of his rambling, a sharp, clear voice was heard.

"Enough!" Kast shouted, and advanced again toward Mute's body. You moved to stop him, indignant that he would harm the one who could show the way to all of you. But he did not listen, and shouted at each of you, throwing you off of himself and brandishing the club as if he'd never let you stop him from killing the already dead body that lay in front of you. And he got through. Standing over the body, he swung with the already bloody club, again and again, battering Mute's still-mumbling visage even as it spoke; destroying bone structure and rending flesh from flesh. Only when Mute's head was a bloody pulp did he cease his repeated blows. And suddenly, you no longer felt the way you had before. The voices in your head had stopped.

And suddenly, you began to understand... you had just been saved. From an enemy that fought with more than just physical weaponry; they invaded your mind instead, using your body as a soulless shell to accomplish their will. But now you had all killed the last one, and one of the stronger among you had incapacitated its hive mind's most-used husk, saving you from its influence even from beyond the threshold of life and death.

The treacherous

Inner Circle

have been defeated.

Finally, those vile, deceitful, double-dealing miscreants had been put out of their misery, and everyone could go about the business of their daily lives without the worry of being stabbed in the back all the time.

Finally... you could have some semblance of tranquility in your heart, and would now not worry about not waking up the next morning, every time you tried your best, and usually failed, to drift off to sleep.


Finally... you could feel some measure of peace, and claim it as your own... or so you thought.

---

It is now Night 6. The deadline is May 2nd, 3pm PST (6pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Dawn of Day Seven

---

It had happened again... wonder of wonders.

The citizens of Metropolis had chosen again to section themselves off in tight little groups (while still trusting nobody but themselves, of course) and wait out the night with multiple people on watch, at staggered times of the night and within plain sight of each other, so that there would be no shenanigans. And for the first time in almost a week, it appeared to have worked! One by one, the citizens awoke, and checked their bodies for knife wounds or bullet holes. And nary a one was found.

...and once again, nobody died last night.

The citizens shuddered, however, as they realized that probability dictated the probability of the continued existence of a killer (or killers? *gulp*), in their midst, and that perhaps they were merely biding their time, until the perfect moment to strike. They readied themselves for the day with a renewed sense of hope and urgency, and yet could still not shake the vestiges of fear from their minds.

---

It is now Day 7. The deadline is May 10th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Day Seven: The Hypocritic Oath

Wait... Wait a second. There were people going around saving other people from death? This could not be. Those people needed to die first.

~ + ~ + ~

He felt something behind him, but when he looked, nothing was there. Wait, maybe not behind him. Perhaps it was in front of him. Or to the side. He couldn't decide, but he could tell without a doubt that he was being watched, being observed very closely. So to conduct a little bit of counter-intel that night, he'd grabbed a rain slicker and some thick boots and had tramped out into the rain that night. Nobody could hide from him now. He was out in the middle of the street, whirling around and around. Looking behind him, then behind him again, he could feel himself quickly becoming paranoid.

He was still out in the street, keeping his options open, making sure that all possible routes of approach were either blocked off or plainly visible. And if he had to stand out in the street all night, then that's what he'd do.

Suddenly though, a screech of tires brought a frown to his face. He turned around just in time to get a face full of halogen headlights. They were getting very large, very quickly. He immediately knew what was about to happen.

Just before the car hit him and killed him, he thought he saw a ghostly white face behind the steering wheel, leering at him.

Kublai Khan

, a life-saving

Paramedic

, has been run down by a car on Day 7!

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— End of Day Seven

---

camn [4] – Kast, Magua, Kise

,

camn

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Albert B. Rampage, Kublai Khan, StrangerCoug

---

Wearily, the town walked over to another person amongst them.

Someone who had far outstayed their welcome, and was ripe for the "picking", as it were. And they closed in menacingly.

"Hey look, guys," she said. "It's not me. I swear."

"Great," one of them said. "Prove it."

She stated the obvious: That she had absolutely no way to prove to them who she was or wasn't and what she could or could not do, especially with her hands being restrained by two of the largest men in the park.

They released their grip on her arms just in time for her to reach into her purse, pull out a small handgun, and put it to her own temple.

"Um... what are you doing?" they asked.

"You don't believe me, so I'm going to prove it to you!" she sputtered. "There's no other way!"

"Waitwaitwaitwait... we can talk this over..." said one of them.

"Don't do this! At least not yet..." another citizen pleaded.

"What, you

don't

want me to do it now?" she said, grimly but cheerfully.

"Dude, just leave her alone. Let the police handle custody! She's roleblocked anyway," mentioned one of the people around.

"No, let her do it." somebody said. "Let her prove herself. To all of us."

Cries of "...wait, what??" and "Are you crazy?" echoed amongst the rest of the park-goers.

"Yes..." she said. "I just might... it's the only way..."

As her voice trailed off, there a loud crack, and her head snapped sideways: she had pulled the trigger.

The crowd gasped at the noise itself, but by this time they were so accustomed to the wanton violence here that they simply accepted it, and went about their way, to try to find a place to spend the night without fear of being killed in their sleep.

And nobody was assigned to clean up after the mess of the girl's body.

As the rain continued to fall, the blood washed away, but the corpse remained: a sick reminder of the fact that so much death all around a person could get to them, and make them do even some of the most unlikely things.

And then, trapped behind the clouds, the sun fell below the horizon without so much as a whisper.

camn

, another poor

Citizen of Metropolis

, has taken her own life on Day 7!

---

It is now Night 7. The deadline is May 5th, 2pm PST (5pm EST).

Days and nights may now become shorter, depending on the consensus of the players still living.

Edit/Update:

The citizens of Metropolis have made themselves heard.
Once the current Night phase ends, this game will become Nightless.

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Dawn of Day Eight

---

It had happened again... wonder of wonders.

The citizens of Metropolis had chosen again to section themselves off in tight little groups (while still trusting nobody but themselves, of course) and wait out the night with multiple people on watch, at staggered times of the night and within plain sight of each other, so that there would be no shenanigans. And for the first time in almost a week, it appeared to have worked! One by one, the citizens awoke, and checked their bodies for knife wounds or bullet holes. And nary a one was found.

...and once again, nobody died last night.

The citizens shuddered, however, as they realized that probability dictated the probability of the continued existence of a killer (or killers? *gulp*), in their midst, and that perhaps they were merely biding their time, until the perfect moment to strike. They readied themselves for the day with a renewed sense of hope and urgency, and yet could still not shake the vestiges of fear from their minds.

---

It is now Day 8. The deadline is May 19th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

At that point, Day 8 will immediately end, Day 9 will commence.

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Day Eight: A little sleep, a little slumber...

This man had won awards. Countless awards. He had to have been the most selfless man in the entire park. Maybe the whole the city. Maybe ever.

But he was no different than the rest to this killer: Another body, another statistic, another... obstacle.

And so as he sliced his blade across this generous-to-a-fault gentleman's throat, killing one of the doctors that had been dispatched to the park—one of those pesky, annoying doctors—he smiled with a sinister happiness.

There'll be no more saving of people going on here,

he thought.

For you have more than met your match, Herr Doktor.

Rifling the unfortunate practitioner's pockets, he found pictures of some of the patients that he had saved. His blood froze... Abomination! Some of them were people that he had believed he'd killed in the past; people he had left for dead after inflicting grievous wounds upon them! There was no way that they would have survived without immediate and extensive medical attention!

Well, apparently this guy was a regular Johnny-on-the-spot when it came to being in the right place at the right time to save the right life. At least, he had been, before now. But the killer couldn't help but feel a sense of irrational anger that some of his greatest work had been rendered nought, that he had gone to the trouble to stalk some people in vain, and now they'd survived and gone to parts he'd no longer find them. As he flipped through the pictures again, his hands began to quake.

A feeling of rage began to overtake him. He began to slash at the doctor's already-dead body with his knife, teeth clenched and veins bulging in his eyes. An errant slash tore open the victim's stomach, releasing the doctor's intestines from their meaty prison and freeing them to spill to the ground, steaming and covered in blood. Endorphins flooded his blood stream, and gradually his rage subsided.

Grudgingly satisfied with this depraved form of retribution, he left the body where it lay, and disappeared into the haze.

Kise

the Selfless, a

Paramedic

, has been disemboweled on Day 8!

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— End of Day Eight

---

StrangerCoug [3] – Albert B. Rampage, Kast,

Magua

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– StrangerCoug

---

They looked at him with critical scowls, sizing him up.

Was he the killer? Most likely. Why was he being so silent? Why hadn't he taken a stronger stand on issues? Where was the fruit of his labor? What good had he done for them?

A doctor had just been eviscerated; somebody had to pay. And so they made their choice and there was no going back. This man was going to die. Blow after blow fell upon his frame, and he said nary a word in resistance.

The final blows were dealt by a man named Magua, who had never been this involved in beating someone to death with the town before. However, he apparently had some metal knuckles in his possession, and with these, he began to pummel StrangerCoug's face, over and over. And over.

There were bruises everywhere. StrangerCoug's face was nearly unrecognizable, and as Magua's fists flew at his indistinguishable visage again and again, black liquid began to flow from his cracked lips as he grew increasingly incognizant of the situation.

Magua appeared to relish the indignity of having another man's blood spattered across the ground, and across himself. The other two could only look on in horror as he systematically pounded StrangerCoug into oblivion.

StrangerCoug

, yet another

Citizen of Metropolis

, was beaten to death on Day 8!

---

Nobody died on Night 8. It is now Day 9. The deadline is (still) May 19th at 8pm PST (11pm EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— Day Nine: Flesh and Blood

---

And so it had come down to it.

There were only two others left. And then he could move on to the next city and continue his cycle of wreaking havoc on anyone within sight... he'd been doing it for years, and now he was so close...

He made his move when their backs were turned. First, the one with the cool head, then the loose cannon. Charismatic as the former was, he had to be the one to go first, otherwise he might be able to convince the other helpless soul to trust him.

And that wouldn't do,

thought the killer.

It'd be lights out, if they were to gang up on me.

Luckily though,

he thought,

I have one last trick up my sleeve.

The killer grabbed some throwing knives from his satchel, determined to make a long-range kill so that the other victim couldn't screw things up for him while he was performing the deed. And there they sat; discussing things heatedly, arguing openly, each without a thought or care in the world except for his own survival.

"Teamwork?" one of them said. "Yeah, right. We've been slaughtering each other, daily, and you wanna talk about

teamwork?"

Heh heh,

he thought.

They would never know what hit them.

"Hey you," he called out to the bickering pair.

As Kast turned, the killer threw one of the knives directly at his head. Kast's eyes barely had time to see the flash of the blade before he was dead, the blade buried in his forehead. As blood spurted out generously, his body pitched backwards, lifeless.

His fate had been sealed.

---

Kast

, the unluckiest

Citizen

in

Metropolis

, took a throwing knife to the forehead on Day 9!

---

The other victim realized immediately what was going on, and without hesitation took off at a dead run, eyes wild with fear.

"Ah yes," intoned the killer. "'The hunt.'"

He pulled a foot-long hunting knife from his backpack arsenal filled to the brim with assorted tools of death, and began sprinting after the man whose entire security force he had killed or helped to kill. His years of experience in 'tactical sapien management and removal' paid off; his physique was in excellent form, and he caught up to the wiry runner without too much of a chase. Before taking him down, he began to play with his prey.

"What's the matter," he taunted, "...out of shape?"

"Stay away from me!" was the reply. "Heeeelp! HEEEEEEELLLP!!" he began to shout, as he continued fleeing from the killer.

A throaty chuckle emanated from the depths of the killer's belly at the utter futility of his prey's attempts to summon aid. Even as he followed his victim at a close distance, he could feel the rush of the chase, the thrill of the hunt, pumping endorphins through his body at an intoxicating rate.

"There's nobody left to hear you now." he spat out with a savage bent.

"Nobody to hear you yell... nobody to hear you... SCREAM."

And then with a flying leap, he dove for Albert B. Rampage's heels, and their bodies tangled and went down together. Albert B. Rampage was screaming like a little girl as the killer drove the huge knife deep into his stomach, again and again. The psychotic murderer's face was twisted into a sinister smile as he tore and slashed at his victim, whose sickening screams left nothing to the imagination, ranging from the highest of highs to the lowest of lows. And then, lowest of all, as the killer grew tired of the screams and slashed his windpipe, severing the vocal cords and sending even more blood squirting into the air. Guttural grunts were all that the victim could muster as he was mercilessly gutted like a fish.

---

Albert B. Rampage

, the forsaken

Security Supervisor

, was brutally butchered on Day 9!

---

After he had finished his horrifying job, the killer stood. The deep, red stains of fresh blood were quite literally everywhere, and his final victim's body was in so many pieces that it was entirely unrecognizable as a human being. The killer couldn't bear one last taunt.

"Thanks for starting off most of the riots, too," he spoke, to no piece of his victim in particular. "You were very... useful."

He wiped his hands on the grass, and cleaned the blade he'd used to fillet his victim.

"I couldn't help but save you for last..." he spoke again. "It was the least I could do for you..."

And then he looked to the sky, his ephemeral euphoria fading slowly with the sun as it went down over the horizon. He knew that his blood lust could no longer be sated here, and so he gathered his things, and left the amusement park after cutting a hole in the park's gates with his blowtorch (which he'd welded shut earlier, so that no one could escape). He reflected in passing that he could have used that particular tool to great avail when it came to earlier bouts of torture he'd inflicted upon citizens of Metropolis, before he'd killed them.

Ah well,

he thought remorsefully...

Hindsight, as they say, is always 20/20.

He slipped through the cut bars, and made his way down to the highway, and began to walk along it toward the next city, with his thumb out for any passing vehicles. His normal modus operandi between 'appointments'.

As he looked back at the gargantuan metropolis, he reflected again, this time out loud. "Yes, 20/20 indeed..."

"But there's always next time."

---

Magua

, the

Day Serial Killer

, has survived and won the game!

Congratulations on a game well played!

Game over.

.

[ReaperCharlie]

*hint hint nudge nudge*

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p3018570

[ReaperCharlie]

REAPER, SHOW US WHO THE IC WERE.
IT HAD TO BE LLD RIGHT? RAWR!

The Inner Circle were composed of curiouskarmadog, Hrezs, and Friend/Xalxe/Mute.

And a "fourth" member,

Kast

, was recruited (non-consensually) when curiouskarmadog died, to complete the Cycle of Three, but he was also given the choice to

Free his Mind

when he out-survived all of the other Inner Circle members. If you still have a blank look on your face, don't worry; it will all make MUCH more sense when the mod notes on the setup are posted.

---

My full comments on the game (along with Role PMs, Night Actions, thoughts, etc.) will come later.

I am also going to take two surveys about the game and the players, which will be coming up.

[ReaperCharlie]

Eh. Game lost on following KL.

We made the right moves, odds just weren't on our side.

Heh. It appears almost

nobody

thinks the odds were on their side. There have been a plethora of complaints from the Inner Circle, both scum teams, the town, and pretty much everyone but the Serial Killers, that the setup was way too stacked against them. Which is funny, because only the Serial Killers would have been justified in complaining that. Everyone else had just as good a chance as any other faction, except for the Serial Killers (and probably the Inner Circle, which I still think is the hardest faction to win with in this setup, even considering the power of knowledge that they have).

After a lot of contemplation, I think the reason for this (when I say "this", I mean the complaints about unfairness) is mainly because of site meta. People are

used

to Serial Killers, but they're not nearly as

used

to stuff like moles, or differing levels of trust that you can put in different people. They just aren't used to having knowns be unknowns, in terms of confirmability. But keep in mind: That does NOT make it inherently unbalanced.

Case in point: This setup would not play anywhere nearly the same the third time around (this was already the second, hence the "Revisited"). That's the way I make setups, so that they'll be good, interesting, and different the second, third, and even fourth time around.

Anyway, I just find it amusing that the people who really DID have the odds stacked against them (UT, Magua) were the only ones who haven't complained yet. Magua's not complaining because he worked his a$$ off to pull off an epic win. UT is not complaining because he has class and realizes that sometimes sh*t just happens, and it's not always your fault that you get screwed.

And a case in point of

that

, would be when two of the scum claimed scum and outed themselves and their buddy. As I said multiple times in the dead QT, they took a calculated risk in claiming based on an unknown. They knew what they would lose. 50% of their scum-team, to be exact. And they had no way of knowing what they'd gain (or rather, make someone else lose). Both moves were inexcusably poor, and their undeniably poor choices cannot, repeat,

cannot

, be blamed upon the setup in any way.

Because that is how the setup is designed.

To make people realize that sometimes they can't trust those who they think they can, and that sometimes they'll have to trust those who they think they can't. When creating the setup, I thought that it may happen, once. But I figured that the other scum team would take a lesson from the first one completely crashing and burning, and keep their mouths shut.

I was completely baffled when the second scum team calculated the risk, weighed it against an unknown gain (really, close to none), and then screwed their team over anyway. Utterly and completely baffled. I've very seriously considered blacklisting people from this game based off not playing-to-win. Screwing over another faction is not necessarily winning for yourself, and the fact that neither of them actually suspected the right person is just icing on the cake of why what they did was monumentally stupid, and squarely in the realm of playing-to-lose.

[ReaperCharlie]

Maybe I misunderstood your post, but the rest of my post stands true; pretty much everyone in the dead QT, regardless of faction, claimed that the setup was stacked against their faction, and to the point of brokenness. Which is hilarious in and of itself, but when coupled with the fact that the two people who it actually WAS stacked against (one of whom died right away, and the other of whom won) didn't complain one iota, it is just extremely amusing. Thanks for clearing up what you actually meant, though.

[ReaperCharlie]

Roles:

Citizens

Chief of Police

(2s-Tracker/2s-Cop/2s-Watcher)

Paramedic [type A]

(cannot protect the same person twice in a row. cannot self-protect)

Paramedic [type B]

(cannot protect the same person twice in the game. can self-protect)

Security Supervisor

(jailkeeper)

Security Officer

(one-shot jailkeeper)

Security Officer

(one-shot jailkeeper)

Mixmaster

(bus-driver w/1s-three-way busdrive)

Citizen

(vt)

Citizen

(vt)

Citizen

(vt)

Citizen

(vt)

Citizen

(vt)

Citizen

(vt)

Citizen

(vt)

* One is in the

Inner Circle

Skull Crushers

Gang Leader

(godfather w/1s-BP)

Streetwalker

(roleblocker)

Implicator

(framer)

Gang Member

(goon)

* One is in the

Inner Circle

Night Riders

Gang Leader

(godfather w/1s-BP)

Streetwalker

(roleblocker)

Implicator

(framer)

Gang Member

(goon)

* One is in the

Inner Circle

Day Serial Killer

Day-SK

(kills days, duh)

Night Serial Killer

Night-SK

(kills nights, duh)

---

Role PMs:

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are a

Citizen

of Metropolis. You have no abilities other than your voice and your fists, so use them wisely!

You win when all threats to the

Citizens

are eliminated!

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are

the Chief of Police

; aligned with the

Citizens

.

the Chief of Police didn't get to where he was from a path of incompetence. He graduated at the top of his class in the Metropolis Law Enforcement Academy, worked his way through the ranks, and excelled at every task he put his hand to. He has acquired a number of specialized skills over the years and is the most respected officer in the Force. With the former Chief of Police killed by gang violence, he was unanimously appointed to the deceased's office by the City Council.

You have three specific abilities. You may only use one of your abilities each night.
-

Investigate:

You may choose to Investigate someone on each of

two

nights, to attempt to ascertain their alignment.
-

Watch:

You may choose to Watch someone on each of

two

nights, to ascertain who targeted them with an action that night.
-

Track:

You may choose to Track someone on each of

two

nights, to ascertain who they targeted with an action that night.

You win when all threats to the

Citizens

are eliminated!

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are a

Paramedic

; aligned with the

Citizens

.

the Paramedics have been dispatched to the amusement park from Metropolis General Hospital. They are charged with assisting the injured and doing their best to ensure that nobody else will get hurt. However, they can't be everywhere at once, and so cannot prevent all violence within the park. They are a night EMT team that has been assigned to the park until sunrise, at which time the park will (presumably) be cleared and the remaining injured patrons evacuated.

Your role ability:
-

Protect:

You may choose to Protect someone each night, to attempt to save them from dying that night. You may not protect someone two nights in a row. If two or more killing actions target the player you chose to Protect, both you and the player will die. You may not self-protect.

You win when all threats to the

Citizens

are eliminated!

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are a

Paramedic

; aligned with the

Citizens

.

the Paramedics have been dispatched to the amusement park from Metropolis General Hospital. They are charged with assisting the injured and doing their best to ensure that nobody else will get hurt. However, they can't be everywhere at once, and so cannot prevent all violence within the park. They are a night EMT team that has been assigned to the park until sunrise, at which time the park will (presumably) be cleared and the remaining injured patrons evacuated.

Your role ability:
-

Protect:

You may choose to Protect someone each night, to attempt to save them from dying that night. You may not protect the same person twice in the game, so choose your targets wisely as the game progresses! The only exception to this rule is when self-protecting. You may self-protect an unlimited number of times.

You win when all threats to the

Citizens

are eliminated!

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are a

Security Supervisor

; aligned with the

Citizens

.

the Security Officers patrol the park in droves, attempting—by persuasion of spoken word or threat of force—to dissuade rowdy park patrons from instigating violence amongst themselves. Some are more skilled at plying their trade than others; these are the ones who work the dreaded Night Shift, where the entire park is watched by only a skeleton crew of these brave individuals. Fortunately, due to the nature of their training, on-the-job mortality rates are low.

Your role ability:
-

Detain:

You may choose to Detain someone each night; if your action is successful, it will stop your target from targeting any players with a night action. It will also stop them from being targeted with any other night actions.

You win when all threats to the

Citizens

are eliminated!

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are a

Security Officer

; aligned with the

Citizens

.

the Security Officers patrol the park in droves, attempting—by persuasion of spoken word or threat of force—to dissuade rowdy park patrons from instigating violence amongst themselves. Some are more skilled at plying their trade than others; these are the ones who work the dreaded Night Shift, where the entire park is watched by only a skeleton crew of these brave individuals. Fortunately, due to the nature of their training, on-the-job mortality rates are low.

Your role ability:
-

Detain:

You may choose to Detain someone once in the game at night. If your action is successful, it will stop your target from targeting any players with a night action. It will also stop them from being targeted with any other night actions.

You win when all threats to the

Citizens

are eliminated!

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are the

Mixmaster

; aligned with the

Citizens

.

the Mixmaster plies his trade via the turntables, not the 139 route. He's never been a fan of the oppressive government in Metropolis, so he plays music designed specifically to incite feelings of anarchy and discontentment within park patrons. This causes them to get up and jump around, and during the concerts he throws at the park's main stage, visitors often find themselves hopelessly lost in the crowd; separated from their group, and alone.

You have two specific abilities. You may only use one of your abilities each night.
-

Mix and Match:

You may choose to Mix and Match two targets each night (i.e. switching the night actions that would have targeted each); if successful, any actions that would have targeted Player A now target Player B, and vice versa.
-

Super Ultra Mix:

Once in the game, you may choose to Ultra Mix three targets, creating a chain of events similar to your other ability, but with a more intricate effect. (i.e. any actions that would have targeted Player A now target Player B, any actions that would have targeted Player B now target Player C, and any actions that would have targeted Player C now target Player A).

You win when all threats to the

Citizens

are eliminated!

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are the

Gang Leader

; aligned with the

Skull-Crushers

.

You have two specific abilities, one active and one passive.
-

Night Kill

: A shared ability between you and your faction. May be used each night.
-

Investigation Immunity

: This passive ability causes you to appear as a Citizen to any Investigative roles, should they investigate you.

You win when all threats to the

Skull-Crushers

are eliminated, or when nothing can stop you from taking control of Metropolis!

The other members in your gang are

playername

(Streetwalker),

playername

(Implicator), and

playername

(Goon).
The Skull-Crushers quicktopic is located here.

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are a

Streetwalker

; aligned with the

Skull-Crushers

.

You have two specific abilities. You may only use one each night.
-

Night Kill

: A shared ability between you and your faction. May be used each night.
-

Seduction

: You may choose to seduce another player each night. If your action is successful, any night action they have will not resolve.

You win when all threats to the

Skull-Crushers

are eliminated, or when nothing can stop you from taking control of Metropolis!

The other members in your gang are

playername

(Gang Leader),

playername

(Implicator), and

playername

(Goon).
The Skull-Crushers quicktopic is located here.

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are an

Implicator

; aligned with the

Skull-Crushers

.

You have two specific abilities. You may only use one each night.
-

Night Kill

: A shared ability between you and your faction. May be used each night.
-

Frame

: You may choose to Frame someone on each of

two

nights. If your action is successful, it will cause them to appear as scum to any Investigative roles.

You win when all threats to the

Skull-Crushers

are eliminated, or when nothing can stop you from taking control of Metropolis!

The other members in your gang are

playername

(Gang Leader),

playername

(Streetwalker), and

playername

(Goon).
The Skull-Crushers quicktopic is located here.

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are a

Skull-Crusher

.

Your only ability is the following:
-

Night Kill:

A shared ability between you and your faction. May be used each night.

You win when all threats to the

Skull-Crushers

are eliminated, or when nothing can stop you from taking control of Metropolis!

The other members in your gang are

playername

(Gang Leader),

playername

(Streetwalker), and

playername

(Implicator).
The Skull-Crushers quicktopic is located here.

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are the

Gang Leader

; aligned with the

Night Riders

.

You have two specific abilities, one active and one passive.
-

Night Kill

: A shared ability between you and your faction. May be used each night.
-

Investigation Immunity

: This passive ability causes you to appear as a Citizen to any Investigative roles, should they investigate you.

You win when all threats to the

Night Riders

are eliminated, or when nothing can stop you from taking control of Metropolis!

The other members in your gang are

playername

(Streetwalker),

playername

(Implicator), and

playername

(Goon).
The Night Riders quicktopic is located here.

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are a

Streetwalker

; aligned with the

Night Riders

.

You have two specific abilities. You may only use one each night.
-

Night Kill

: A shared ability between you and your faction. May be used each night.
-

Seduction

: You may choose to seduce another player each night. If your action is successful, any night action they have will not resolve.

You win when all threats to the

Night Riders

are eliminated, or when nothing can stop you from taking control of Metropolis!

The other members in your gang are

playername

(Gang Leader),

playername

(Implicator), and

playername

(Goon).
The Night Riders quicktopic is located here.

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are an

Implicator

; aligned with the

Night Riders

.

You have two specific abilities. You may only use one each night.
-

Night Kill

: A shared ability between you and your faction. May be used each night.
-

Frame

: You may choose to Frame someone on each of

two

nights. If your action is successful, it will cause them to appear as scum to any Investigative roles.

You win when all threats to the

Night Riders

are eliminated, or when nothing can stop you from taking control of Metropolis!

The other members in your gang are

playername

(Gang Leader),

playername

(Streetwalker), and

playername

(Goon).
The Night Riders quicktopic is located here.

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are a

Night Rider

.

Your only ability is the following:
-

Night Kill:

A shared ability between you and your faction. May be used each night.

You win when all threats to the

Night Riders

are eliminated, or when nothing can stop you from taking control of Metropolis!

The other members in your gang are

playername

(Gang Leader),

playername

(Streetwalker), and

playername

(Implicator).
The Night Riders quicktopic is located here.

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are the

Day Serial Killer

; and you shall have no mercy for anyone in your path.

there are also some Serial Killers on the loose in Metropolis. For what big city doesn't have cryptic killers that yearn for wanton violence? and Metropolis is no exception. These fearsome people will kill without mercy, and virtually nothing will be able to stand in their way. You must always remember to watch your six, or you will find yourself sleeping with the fishes faster than you can say "hack'n'slash!"

Your role abilities:
-

Sharp as a Knife:

Each night, you may choose one person to brutally murder in broad daylight.
-

Bulletproof Vest:

You have a bulletproof vest which will stop one attempt on your life, either during day or night.

You win when all threats to your survival are eliminated, and nothing can stop you from wreaking havoc and destroying Metropolis!

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

Welcome to

Metropolis:

Revisited

, playername!

You are the

Night Serial Killer

; and you shall have no mercy for anyone in your path.

there are also some Serial Killers on the loose in Metropolis. For what big city doesn't have cryptic killers that yearn for wanton violence? and Metropolis is no exception. These fearsome people will kill without mercy, and virtually nothing will be able to stand in their way. You must always remember to watch your six, or you will find yourself sleeping with the fishes faster than you can say "hack'n'slash!"

Your role abilities:
-

Bullet to the Head:

Each night, you may choose one person to covertly dispatch in the dark of night.
-

Bulletproof Vest:

You have a bulletproof vest which will stop one attempt on your life, either during day or night.

You win when all threats to your survival are eliminated, and nothing can stop you from wreaking havoc and destroying Metropolis!

The game thread is here. Please /confirm in-thread that you've received your role PM.

And then the Inner Circle PM:

You were not like the others... You were special.

After years of being watched by the powers that be, you were selected... for what? They never told you. But what you do know is that all you have known for sure since that day is that you were meant to be someone. To be some

thing

. To accomplish a goal, that without you, would never be accomplished.

No, you were not like the others. You were quite special indeed.

At first, you wept to be so alone. You wept to be so forgotten. Had you been deceived? Had you been abandoned? The bitter tears spilled down your face night after night, as you contemplated the reason for your forlorn existence.

But then came the others.

And with them... came your salvation.

---

Mod Notes (SHHHH!):

The Serial Killers:

The DSK and NSK both have bulletproof vests which will stop one attempt on their life, whether lynch or scum NK. However, since Serial Killers always plan for every contingency, vice deaths being a random happenstance or collateral damage, as with gangs, the bulletproof vests will not protect against each other. A single kill attempt from either SK will kill the other. This IS rather bastardly, mostly because the role PM specifically says their BP vest will save them against "any attempt on their life, day or night", but I don't expect that the SKs will kill each other off right away. It's just a contingency plan.

The Mixmaster:

The Mixmaster does not know this, but the "Ultra Mix" ability he has is much more powerful than it says on the label. Not only does it Bus-drive three people (in order) so that the actions affecting them are rotated cyclically, but it also affects the actions they take as well, much like a Redirector (The regular "Mix" ability does not affect actions performed by its targets, only actions affecting them. It's a vanilla Busdrive action.)

First, the Ultra Mix ability will cause any Cop investigations done by his targets to come back paranoid, as in, always "scum" or the equivalent in flavor. Second, any Doc protections done by his Ultra Mix targets will be randomized to point to somebody other than the intended target. The Ultra Mix does not affect blocking actions such as roleblocking or jailkeeping (even though it could also be considered a protection action, here it is considered a blocking action), nor does it affect frame actions or the bulletproof vest assignment by the IC. Most importantly, though: any kills performed by anyone affected by the "Ultra Mix" ability will not go through. And this is quite possibly the only "good" part. Except for the vague possibility of some of the extreme havoc possible with the Ultra Mix actually turning out to be good instead of bad (just as unlikely as it is likely), this may be the only real net pro-town gain from using this action.

IC: Inner Circle Ambiguity:

Ambiguity is wholly intended to surround the fate of the Inner Circle if they are to lose one of their numbers. In the previous game (Metropolis_(game) on the MS wiki), the IC could not win unless they experienced absolutely no casualties. With the addition of quite a few new players and roles (especially another SK which they can't control), this has been changed. Non-IC players are

meant

to assume that if one IC member dies, they all auto-lose or auto-suicide, or something to that effect. However the truth is far more sinister. If one (and only one) of the Inner Circle is to perish at any given time, they will flip as their cover faction, and not as Inner Circle. At this time, the Inner Circle will be informed of a shift in their ability set: They now have a one-shot recruit ability to be used on any player in the game. But it will only work on some, and if used on certain players, will result in (possibly VERY) unfavorable circumstances for the Inner Circle. So it is a gamble, but it must be taken (it is mandatory). This is their one chance to restore their numbers to 'full strength' and play out the rest of the game. The stipulations for the one-shot recruit are as follows. If they attempt to recruit:

- a vanilla Citizen: They will be recruited successfully, and will (temporarily) take the place of the deceased member. If the situation arises where he becomes the only remaining member of the IC, the Free Your Mind stipulation allows him to break the assimilation of the IC and return to his original faction, albeit not without adverse effects (more details specified under the Free Your Mind stipulation).
- a Skull-Crusher or Night Rider: The recruitment attempt will fail (neither gang should have two moles, duh). The potential recruitee will not be informed of the recruitment attempt, and neither he nor the IC's win conditions will change.
- either Serial Killer: All remaining Inner Circle members will die immediately. Serial Killers tend to do that...
- the Chief of Police: All Inner Circle members are revealed as IC publicly. Everyone else will decide their fate.
- a Security Officer: The entire team will be effectively jailed for 2 day/night cycles, and then (after the "investigation") they'll be outed as IC just as before.
- a Paramedic [either type A or type B]: They will be given the option to join the Inner Circle (without being informed of the IC's identities), but they can also refuse. If they refuse, the IC win condition does not change, and neither does the Paramedic's. If they accept, they will be recruited successfully, and will take the place of the deceased member. If they accept, they will have made the choice of their own volition, and will NOT be allowed the Free Your Mind stipulation.
- the Mixmaster: Instead of recruiting the Mixmaster, the recruitment choice will be redirected to a random person, the otherwise applicable effects (i.e. the above options) will be applied (whether that be death, jail, failure, etc).

If they recruit successfully, the game will continue as normal, except for the alignment and wincon change of the single Inner Circle recruit. The previously killed Inner Circle member will still win with the Inner Circle, but is not allowed to talk to them in the Inner Circle QT any more; though his posts will remain in the QT obviously. For other possible outcomes, read on.

The Lover Stipulation:

If -- after the first recruitment attempt -- the Inner Circle loses

another

member (or, conversely, if the recruitment attempt fails WITHOUT them being outed as IC by the COP or CSO), then both remaining members become functionally identical to Lovers. They are still Inner Circle-aligned, and if they are the last two alive in the game, (or constitute a majority at the start of any Day phase), they and their faction mates (deceased or not) will win. However, they are also linked to each other. If one of them is killed, the other will suicide immediately, whether Day or Night. The IC will not be informed of this stipulation unless such a situation happens. This stipulation is subject to (and if applicable, will defer to) the Free Your Mind stipulation, in which it still holds some power, but not entire power. The IC will not be informed of this stipulation unless such a situation happens, (which

is

likely, but I don't want to complicate things too much at first for them).

The Survivor Stipulation:

If at any point two Inner Circle members are killed simultaneously (or before a recruitment choice is initiated), the remaining member of the Inner Circle (be they 'town' or 'scum') will immediately become Neutral* IC-aligned Survivors and can win the game by themselves. If s/he is still alive when another faction achieves their wincon (i.e. scum attain majority, DSK is 1/3 of the players at the start of a day -- give or take an IC BP vest, NSK is 1/2 of the players at the start of a night -- again, give or take an IC BP vest. These aren't official wincons, just quick summaries that may or may not be entirely accurate), then they (!! and their faction mates in the IC !!) will also win the game (joint win), and the game will end without any of the last kills resolving. The IC will not be informed of this stipulation unless such a situation happens, which is pretty unlikely.

The 'Free Your Mind' Stipulation:

If the situation should arise where the original three IC members are dead, and only the recruit remains, they will receive a choice: They can either return to their original faction (i.e. reverse the IC brainwashing), or choose to stay aligned with the Inner Circle. The IC recruit is only informed of the choice once all of the original IC die (flavor reason is that their mind was enslaved against their will -- obv Matrix/Star Trek influence, lol -- and now that they are free from the assimilation, they realizes that they have a choice). If they is to choose to stay with the Inner Circle voluntarily, they will (unbeknownst to them) die after one day-night cycle, as the Lover Stipulation will still apply, only in a lesser form (with the delay). The recruit will not be told of this. However, if they is to choose to return to their original faction, then their wincon will revert back to what it was before, and the game will continue with the Inner Circle having been entirely eliminated. The IC will not be informed of this stipulation unless such a situation happens, which is pretty unlikely.

Note

: If there is a Paramedic who has joined the Inner Circle voluntarily, he will not be allowed this stipulation. Since his assimilation was by choice, it will remain in place until the grave. Which, incidentally, is where he will go. Immediately. (see Lover Stipulation).

Limited-shot abilities, etc.:

Make sure when resolving night actions that you pay attention to the fact that some of the actions are limited-shot, or have other restrictions regarding their possible targets. First, both of the framers are TWO-shot only. Don't let them perform their action after that. Second, the Paramedics. Make sure that you pay attention to the restrictions specific to type A and B; that is, one cannot protect himself, and cannot protect anyone in the game two nights running -- and the other cannot protect anyone twice EVER, but can self-protect in an unlimited capacity. If that Paramedic is ever recruited by the Inner Circle, it'll be crazy. But then, I expect a lot of this game to be crazy.

[ReaperCharlie]

Night Actions:

Night 1 Actions - Order of Receipt

Hre

zs

<is elected to wear the bulletproof vest for Night 1 and Day 2>

Albert B. Rampage

<jails>

Kublai Khan

Kublai Khan

<protects>

Magua

AGar

<ultra-mixes>

MagnaofIllusion

->

Albert B. Rampage

->

AlmasterGM

(->)

Kise

<protects>

Kise

(self-protect)

curiousk

armadog

<kills>

AGar

Bunnylover

<blocks>

MagnaofIllusion

Plum

<jails>

Bunnylover

KageLord

<investigates>

Albert B. Rampage

Fri

end

<blocks>

Plum

MagnaofIllusion

<frames>

curiousk

armadog

Lady Lambdadelta

<frames>

Albert B. Rampage

AlmasterGM

<kills>

camn

---

Night 1 Actions - Order of Resolution + Result

Hre

zs

<is elected to wear the bulletproof vest for Night 1 and Day 2>

AGar

<ultra-mixes>

MagnaofIllusion

->

Albert B. Rampage

->

AlmasterGM

(->) |

ALL ACTIONS TARGETING MAGNA NOW TARGET ABR, ABR -> AGM, AGM -> MAGNA.

Bunnylover

<blocks>

MagnaofIllusion

|

ALBERT B RAMPAGE IS BLOCKED, THANKS TO THE ULTRA-MIX

Albert B. Rampage

<jails>

Kublai Khan

|

ALBERT B RAMPAGE IS BLOCKED, THANKS TO THE ULTRA-MIX

Plum

<jails>

Bunnylover

|

PLUM WAS BLOCKED BY FRIEND

Fri

end

<blocks>

Plum

|

PLUM CANNOT PERFORM HER ACTION

MagnaofIllusion

<frames>

curiousk

armadog

|

CURIOUSKARMADOG IS FRAMED, AND WOULD SHOW UP AS SCUM REGARDLESS OF GF ABILITY IF INVESTIGATED

KageLord

<investigates>

Albert B. Rampage

|

ALMASTERGM IS INVESTIGATED, THANKS TO THE ULTRA-MIX. RESULT TURNS UP

"SCUM"

BECAUSE ALMASTERGM WAS ALSO FRAMED

Lady Lambdadelta

<frames>

Albert B. Rampage

|

ALMASTERGM IS FRAMED, THANKS TO THE ULTRA-MIX

Kublai Khan

<protects>

Magua

|

UN-NEEDED, NOBODY TARGETED MAGUA

Kise

<protects>

Kise

(self-protect) |

UN-NEEDED, NOBODY TARGETED KISE

curiousk

armadog

<kills>

AGar

|

AGAR DIES

AlmasterGM

<kills>

camn

|

ALMASTERGM WAS ULTRA-MIXED, CAMN LIVES

---

Night 1 Results

AGar

dies (don't forget to give him the Dead QT)

KageLord

receives investigation results on

ABR

saying he's scum

---

Night 2 Actions - Order of Receipt

Hre

zs

<is elected to wear the bulletproof vest for Night 1 and Day 2>

Albert B. Rampage

<jails>

Kublai Khan

Kublai Khan

<protects>

Magua

AGar

<ultra-mixes>

MagnaofIllusion

->

Albert B. Rampage

->

AlmasterGM

(->)

Kise

<protects>

Kise

(self-protect)

curiousk

armadog

<kills>

AGar

Bunnylover

<blocks>

MagnaofIllusion

Plum

<jails>

Bunnylover

KageLord

<investigates>

Albert B. Rampage

Fri

end

<blocks>

Plum

MagnaofIllusion

<frames>

curiousk

armadog

Lady Lambdadelta

<frames>

Albert B. Rampage

AlmasterGM

<kills>

camn

---

Night 2 Actions - Order of Resolution + Result

Hre

zs

<is elected to wear the bulletproof vest for Night 2>

Albert B. Rampage

<jails>

Magua

|

NO EFFECT, MAGUA HAS NO NIGHT ACTIONS AND IS NOT TARGETED BY ANYONE

Bunnylover

<blocks>

Magua

|

NO EFFECT, MAGUA WAS JAILKEPT ALREADY

Fri

end

<does not submit an action> |

NO ACTION == NO EFFECT, DUH

Lady Lambdadelta

<frames>

Fri

end

|

FRIEND WOULD APPEAR GUILTY BUT IS NOT INVESTIGATED

MagnaofIllusion

<frames>

camn

|

CAMN WOULD APPEAR GUILTY BUT IS NOT INVESTIGATED

KageLord

<investigates>

Kublai Khan

|

RECEIVES THE RESULT THAT KUBLAI KHAN IS TOWN

Kise

<protects>

Kise

(self-protect) |

NO EFFECT

Kublai Khan

<protects>

Hre

zs

|

HREZS IS PROTECTED BY THE BP VEST ALREADY

AlmasterGM

<kills>

curiousk

armadog

|

CURIOUSKARMADOG DIES

curiousk

armadog

<kills>

AlmasterGM

|

ALMASTERGM DIES

---

Night 2 Results

curiousk

armadog

and

AlmasterGM

both die (don't forget to give them the Dead QT)

KageLord

receives investigation results on

Kublai Khan

saying he's town

---

Night 3 Actions - Order of Receipt

Xal

xe

<is elected to wear the bulletproof vest for Night 3>

Albert B. Rampage

<jails>

StrangerCoug

KageLord

<tracks>

StrangerCoug

Kublai Khan

<protects>

Magua

Kise

<protects>

Kise

(self-protect)

Bunnylover

<blocks>

Albert B. Rampage

Exe

<kills>

Magua

Xal

xe

<kills>

Bunnylover

Xal

xe

<blocks>

Magua

Inner Circle

<attempts to recruit>

Kast

---

Night 3 Actions - Order of Resolution + Result

Xal

xe

<is elected to wear the bulletproof vest for Night 3>

Bunnylover

<blocks>

Albert B. Rampage

|

ABR'S JAIL ACTION IS BLOCKED

Albert B. Rampage

<jails>

StrangerCoug

|

ABR WAS BLOCKED BY BUNNYLOVER

Xal

xe

<blocks>

Magua

|

NO EFFECT, MAGUA HAS NO ACTION

KageLord

<tracks>

StrangerCoug

|

GETS RESULT THAT STRANGERCOUG WENT NOWHERE

Kise

<protects>

Kise

(self-protect) |

LULZ ENSUE AS KISE COWERS BEHIND SYRINGES YET AGAIN

Kublai Khan

<protects>

Magua

|

MAGUA IS SAVED FROM EXE'S KILL

Exe

<kills>

Magua

|

MAGUA WAS SAVED BY KUBLAI KHAN (SO HIS 1-SHOT BP/LP ISN'T WASTED)

Xal

xe

<kills>

Bunnylover

|

BUNNYLOVER DIES

Inner Circle

<attempts to recruit>

Kast

|

KAST IS SUCCESSFULLY RECRUITED

---

Night 3 Results

Bunnylover

dies (don't forget to give her the Dead QT)

KageLord

receives track results on

StrangerCoug

saying he went nowhere

Kast

is recruited by the

Inner Circle

, and becomes

Ka

st

---

Night 4 Actions - Order of Receipt

Mu

te

<is elected to wear the bulletproof vest for Night 4>

Albert B. Rampage

<jails>

Exe

KageLord

<tracks>

Albert B. Rampage

Kise

<protects>

Kise

(self-protect)

Mu

te

<kills>

KageLord

Mu

te

<blocks>

Kise

Kublai Khan

<protects>

Albert B. Rampage

Exe

<kills>

StrangerCoug

---

Night 4 Actions - Order of Resolution + Result

Mu

te

<is elected to wear the bulletproof vest for Night 4>

Albert B. Rampage

<jails>

Exe

|

EXE IS THROWN IN JAIL FOR THE NIGHT

Mu

te

<blocks>

Kise

|

KISE IS BLOCKED FROM PROTECTING HIMSELF FOR THE FOURTH TIME ;P

KageLord

<tracks>

Albert B. Rampage

|

KAGELORD DIES BEFORE SEEING HIM VISIT EXE

Kise

<protects>

Kise

(self-protect) |

KISE IS BLOCKED, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER

Kublai Khan

<protects>

Albert B. Rampage

|

ABR IS PROTECTED, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER

Mu

te

<kills>

KageLord

|

KAGELORD DIES

Exe

<kills>

StrangerCoug

|

EXE WAS JAILKEPT BY ABR, STRANGERCOUG LIVES

---

Night 4 Results

KageLord

dies (don't forget to give him the Dead QT)

---

Night 5 Actions - Order of Receipt

Kise

<protects>

Magua

Albert B. Rampage

<jails>

Mu

te

Kublai Khan

<protects>

Magua

Mu

te

<kills>

Plum

Mu

te

<blocks>

Kise

---

Night 5 Actions - Order of Resolution + Result

Albert B. Rampage

<jails>

Mu

te

|

MUTE IS JAILKEPT BY ABR

Mu

te

<blocks>

Kise

|

MUTE IS JAILKEPT BY ABR

Kise

<protects>

Magua

|

MAGUA DOESN'T DIE, DUH

Kublai Khan

<protects>

Magua

|

MAGUA DOESN'T DIE, DUH

Mu

te

<kills>

Plum

|

MUTE IS JAILKEPT BY ABR

---

Night 5 Results

Nothing happens, and everyone wakes up without a bullet hole in their back!

---

Night 6 Actions - Order of Receipt

Kublai Khan

<protects>

StrangerCoug

Kise

<protects>

Albert B. Rampage

Albert B. Rampage

<jails>

Kast

---

Night 6 Results

Nothing happens, and everyone wakes up without a bullet hole in their back!

---

After Night 6, I stopped resolving Night Actions, because they had no effect on anything.

After Night 7, the game became Nightless.

[ReaperCharlie]

Another list:

01. AGar -

Mixmaster

02. Untrod Tripod -

Night Serial Killer

03. Kise -

Paramedic

04. Friend -

Night Riders - Streetwalker

(Inner Circle)

05. DrippingGoofball -

Citizen

06. ObliviousDruidMuncher -

Citizen

07. MagnaofIllusion -

Night Riders - Implicator

08. Toogeloo -

Citizen

09. KageLord -

Chief of Police

10. ThAdmiral -

Citizen

11. Nachomamma8 -

Citizen

12. Exe -

Skull-Crushers - Goon

13. Albert B. Rampage -

Security Supervisor

14. Hrezs -

Security Officer

(Inner Circle)

15. Magua -

Day Serial Killer

16. Lady Lambdadelta -

Skull-Crushers - Implicator

17. curiouskarmadog -

Skull-Crushers - Gang Leader

(Inner Circle)

18. AlmasterGM -

Night Riders - Gang Leader

19. Plum -

Security Officer

20. Baby Spice -

Night Riders - Goon

21. Bunnylover -

Skull-Crushers - Streetwalker

22. GummyBear -

Citizen

23. Kublai Khan -

Paramedic [A]

24. Wraith -

Citizen

-----

Randomizing:

Here is a screenshot of the randomizer I made, with the official assignments shown.

Security officers:

I rolled random.org to get 2/3/4 out of the list to be security officers; it chose 3 officers.
I rolled once again to pick the supervisor (non-1shot), and it chose Albert B. Rampage.
Then I ghetto-edited the security officers into the image with paint, and saved as a .jpg file.

Disclaimer:

(I didn't really

need

a custom randomizer; random.org would have work just fine for it, but I think that making this randomizer for this game was very important, as it was one of the things that helped people understand how the Inner Circle was distributed in a visual way. Having a visual representation and a refreshable view of how the Inner Circle could possibly have been distributed was, I think, quite important).

[ReaperCharlie]

And somebody remind me: I still have to post those two surveys.

1. One about the setup, things you liked and didn't like, ways you think it could be improved, etc.
2. One about the players, who you think did well/poorly, happenings that you really enjoyed, etc.

I'll also be going back and responding to everyone's comments/complaints/constructive criticism.

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah, I've considered blacklisting them [both, all], but I'm not sure how positive of an effect it would have. I usually only blacklist flakers and intentionally antagonistic people. Anyway, the surveys are still coming later, but I am wondering SC, what about the way the IC was modded made them confusing? The no-IC-flips, or the wiki error?

Also, if anyone's interested on helping to decide what game I run next, please fill out this poll: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =5&t=17392

[ReaperCharlie]

1. One about the setup, things you liked and didn't like, ways you think it could be improved, etc.

First, let me say that I really liked the setup. I liked that I had a chance to look at it before playing and I liked the idea of the moles and wanted to see how it would play out. So the following is nothing but constructive criticism..

1) Inner Circle - The win condition of the Inner Circle really needed to be set in cement. I know it was a just an unfortunate transcription error on your part but it was a big deal and needed to be communicated to the players as soon as possible. In mafia, mod-confirmed pieces of information are the basis of every type of strategy. Plus all the "if-then" stuff that happened after a member died was a little much. I remember Kast saying that HRezs was the town-IC and then made his "you really screwed us" post, and the number of ICs just didn't add up. The idea of recruitment was far from my mind as was the "free your mind" concept. There's no way I could have trusted anything Kast said in endgame because even laid out it sounds too far-fetched / not intuitive.

Welll... you're somewhat right about the Inner Circle wincon needing to be made more clear, but to be fair, it

did

say in plain text on the wiki:

"The Inner Circle wins when they control the majority of the players left."

So... I'm not sure why there was any confusion as to when they would have won, if they'd have made it that far.

And even though one could successfully argue that the non-omission of that one phrase "The IC must all be alive in order... etc" can be cited as the main reason that Baby Spice and Exe outed themselves and their scumbuddies, resulting in their lynch/death by DSK/etc... consider the following:

1. Their win condition did not include killing the mole in their faction, or even exposing him or her.
2. They

knew

that doing so would give up 50% (66.7% in Baby Spice's case) of their scum team.
3. Therefore, they played actively

against

their wincon, in order to try to screw over someone else. Regardless of the consequences.

I'm not sure if I can say it any clearer than that. They are entirely to blame for their terrible decision, not me, not the setup, not the wiki error. Even if it HAD been such that the Inner Circle lost upon the death of one of their members, claiming scum and one of your buddies is STILL retarded, as making 1/6 of the other factions LOSE, at the expense of OVER HALF of your own scum team, still does NOT help your faction to win. So even if they were operating under correct assumptions, their choices were still retarded.

Not to mention the fact that they were both wrong anyway. They both revealed an actual scumbuddy, not a member of the Inner Circle. Ouch.

2) No Flips - I don't understand why the Inner Circle team wouldn't flip as Inner Circle.. I get that there's a heady concept to it, but if the Skull Crushers had known that ckd-IC was dead, they would have been in a much better position to band together and win the game. And the game would have been better overall. Instead, they were frustrated and paranoid and eventually self-destructed. Scum teams should be rewarded in the event of their mole dying, instead the no-flip hindered them.

Yes, the scum teams would have been in a better position had they known. But this game was not about mod-outguessing and setup-breaking, it was about the dichotomy of trusting those who you can't trust, and not trusting those who you would normally be able to trust. Yes, it's insane. Yes, it's frustrating. But also yes, it's groundbreaking. The concept of being an informed minority, but still being the uninformed majority, is awesome. It's essentially the same as playing in a vanilla multi-scum game and realizing that you need to work together with the rival scum team up to a point, in order to counter the town's excess of power.

And it's especially about "THE TURNING POINT", which is something I'd like to write a MD thread about. "The Turning Point" is the point at which you stop actively working WITH the rival scum team (to cull the town of its excess of power), and working AGAINST them in order to accomplish your own ends, eliminate them, survive, and win.

Both scum teams misjudged The Turning Point this game, acting far too early. They also both misjudged the proper manner in which to MAKE the Turn against the Inner Circle. The proper way would have been to try to kill an OPPOSING team's member of the Inner Circle, and watch the way their scumbuddies interacted with OTHER people during the day (and how they spoke about them at Night time during the quicktopic). This would have weakened the Inner Circle and severely limited their sphere of influence.

But whether the game would have been better

overall

without the no-flips, is a matter of discussion, and it's rather a different discussion. I am willing to have that discussion as well, if you want.

3) Striking - I already mentioned this... Nothing is more frustrating then to have 1-3 people narrow the scope of the lynch targets. It stops the town from being able to scum-hunt through the use of pressure.

That, again, is just part of the nature of the beast. Due to the flavor, according to the absence of any kind of "outed" Law and Order, people will act with a mob mentality, even those who are supposed to be

upholding

Law and Order. I was also very surprised that nobody ever wanted to kill off Albert B. Rampage, even though he was the loose cannon on many of those occasions. I tried to hint at this in the closing/ending flavor, when the Serial Killer, Magua, is talking to ABR before he kills him. He thanks him for being "that guy" who is always going against the best plan for the town, which in this case was "voting" before actually striking someone. And believe you me, if you've ever been in an enclosed space with a bunch of people who feel trapped, once somebody starts throwing blows, things start blowing up. Everyone polarizes almost right away, and opinions don't change around much once left jabs and right hooks are being thrown and received.

This phenomenon also hearkens to the intro/warning on the wiki page:

This game has more of a quick and dirty feel than most of ReaperCharlie's other games, with more attention being devoted to proper play and role interactions, than to flavor and mechanics. Feel free to lose yourself in the moment, but make sure to remember that if you don't keep your head screwed on straight, it'll be the next one rolling on the ground.

"Feel free to lose yourself in the moment, but remember: If you don't keep your head screwed on straight, it'll be the next one rolling on the ground" is NOT just flavor. It's serious advice. If it was just flavor, it would have been put in the flavor paragraph at the top.

2. One about the players, who you think did well/poorly, happenings that you really enjoyed, etc.

The flavor was excellent, and thanks, of course, for designing an interesting setup and modding it.

You're welcome.

Overall, I am satisfied with how things turned out, and it was more or less what I expected to happen, with a few caveats and surprises (some good, some bad).

I don't think anyone played badly, really. Some people made decision based on information that turned out to be false (IC lose at first member loss), so their "scorched Earth" policy wasn't effective in the way they thought it would be. I was a little disappointed that DrippingGoofball self-struck. I was really looking forward to finally playing a game with her.

I agree and disagree with the sentiment that nobody played badly. I think some people played terribly, and I think some people played amazingly. Either way, there's plenty of info earlier in this post on why the "scorched earth" policy was a terrible idea either way.

And yes. I too, was disappointed that DGB was killed off so early.

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah, I've considered blacklisting them [both, all], but I'm not sure how positive of an effect it would have.

You are considering blacklisting players who acted on your horrible modding in a manner that made sense?

Please blacklist me. Now.

Stop throwing a hissy fit, Magna.

You were perfectly content with Blackest Night Mafia (which was clearly more bastardly than this, by any and all standards), and why was that? Let's see...

Because you won.

And now that you've lost due to other players' stupid decisions, you're taking it out on the mod. Because it's the popular thing to do, when that mod happens to be me. That is another story in and of itself.

Basically, if you'd have thrown any kind of fit about Blackest Night Mafia too, then I'd be perfectly fine with any criticism from you. But as it is, if you're just going to make statements like that, you can kindly shut the hell up; it's pretty obvious when you say things like that, that you're only speaking from self-interest.

But since I generally respect your opinion (and if you are gonna be reasonable), then answer me these questions:

1. What was "horrible" about my actual modding? (Besides the error I made on the wiki?)
2. Did you like anything about the game?
3. How would you have handled the wiki error situation, were you in my place?
4. Were this and this not enough, in your opinion?
5. Why are you asking to be blacklisted? What did you do in this game that would make me blacklist you?

In a game with six factions, it's a given that some people will lose. In this game, 23/24 people lost.

The "OMG I lost, setup is borked, FU REAPER!!!" is getting pretty old. Here is a post I made in one of the QTs:

And yeah, people will probably call it bastard, because that's what people like to do when they don't know everything about a setup. Also, it might be because they lost, which is mainly what happened in Blackest Night. But mostly it was just that they felt like whining. lol

(to be clear though, Blackest Night was powers of magnitute more bastardly than this one ever would be, even at the highest possible levels of bastardly possibility)

I find it pretty hilarious that in Blackest Night's dead QT, every single faction thought their faction had the least chance to win. Pretty sure people are gonna say the same thing here. But it only seems like that because there were 5 factions in that game, and there are 6 factions in this. It's relative to how many factions are in the game, and people don't understand that everyone has about the same chance to win, but that chance is just lower than in a 2-faction game.

That's what theme games are for, though. If they want to play a vanilla mafia-vs-town game, they can go and play Mini Normals or Opens or something. Plus, this game had a wiki that revealed almost everything about the setup. There were only a few specific things that weren't revealed on there before the game even started. So if people want to complain, there's always that defense I have, that they for the most part knew what they were getting themselves into, and wanted it anyway. If they feel like they got screwed, then... well... it's all part of the beast.

And now, I would like more constructive criticism please. How could the setup be made better? I really like this setup, and it's quite possible I'll run it again (though now it'll have to be fully "Open", obv).

Anyway, fire away.

[ReaperCharlie]

<observer>
Nice idea, but I don't think the concept of the mole is ever gonna be fully worked in well to a game. I'm curious, did the original have that aspect and did it work better/worse in a smaller game?

Well played Magua too.

Yes, the original had that aspect. It worked ok in a smaller game, but they ended up being killed by the SK in that game (there was only one SK in the original). I think moles are entirely 100% broken unless you give them incentives not to kiss and tell. Such as: Don't align them with the town. Align them with a faction that is trying to beat the town, and that the town is trying to beat.

well played magua..

this game made me so mad/fustrated that I had/have to take a break from mafia for a bit..

I definitely felt for you, this game. When Friend flaked, I was at least as mad as you were, if not moreso.

Especially after you said the following, OVER AND OVER in the Inner Circle quicktopic:

we got to keep communicating if we are going to win this as a team.

we are not going to win this thing unless we communicate with each other.

WE CAN ONLY WIN IF WE ARE ALL POSTING.

everybody has RL issues, but in regards to this game, we need all members of this faction to be here if we are going to orchestrate a win....

So... it was far from your fault.

Just blame Friend. I do.

that being said, thanks for the game mod

You're welcome. I would have liked to see what you could have done with more competent/active teammates. Hrezs did what he could, but still, 2/3 just isn't enough. Especially when the flaker is one of the scum moles.

I had a great time with this game, flavor was amazing.

Thanks! I love writing flavor!

Friend flaking has made me pissed off more and more as the game has gone on(especially after my death). We would have had all 3 members alive as he would have just blocked AGM's ckd kill in secret. Seriously.

Also recruiting was probably the hardest moment of the game for me, especially under the assumption if the doc says no we lose the game. We had 1 solid choice(kast), thankfully he was vanilla.

Hmmm... though you assumed that, it wasn't correct. Check it out:

Behold: the

Inner Circle

has been crippled; their operative in one of the gangs had been eliminated due to a lack of communication. But this was nothing new... this had happened countless times over their millennia of existence in Metropolis and its predecessors.

The standard procedure is to fill in the spot that was replaced, but due to the turmoil surrounding the death of your previous operative, the affected gangs have closed their doors for recruitment and locked down their barrows tightly. Unfortunately, this puts a damper on your recruiting abilities and you are forced to look elsewhere.

You may pick one player to attempt to recruit. If you attempt to recruit:

- a vanilla Citizen: They will be recruited successfully, and will take the place of your deceased member.
- a Skull-Crusher or Night Rider: The recruitment attempt will fail as both gangs are on lockdown.
- either Serial Killer: They will be recruited successfully... but your entire team will be brutally murdered. >:D
- the Chief of Police: Your entire team will be revealed publicly in-thread as Inner Circle, leaving everyone else to decide your fate.
- a Security Officer: Your entire team will be thrown into jail, and after two days, will all be revealed as Inner Circle, just as before.
- a Paramedic: They will be given the option to join your team (without being informed of your identities), but can also refuse.
-

the Mixmaster: Your recruitment choice will be randomized and the otherwise applicable effects will befall you

.

You may discuss amongst yourselves today, and if both of you still remain alive after today, you may send in your recruitment choice at the break of nightfall.

@mod: what happens if the paramedic refuses?

You'd certainly find out, if that were to happen.

What would have happened is that the

Lover Stipulation

would have kicked in (you'll have to scroll down to the Mod Notes after you click).

In terms of balance I think the scumteams were a little screwed from the start. The only thing that really gave them a good chance was if the IC lost when they recruited.

You mean if the IC auto-lost if they recruited scum? I don't think that would have been very cool. You probably wouldn't have, either. Haha

Day 1s are soooo hard and this setup with all these people who were clearly better than me was ugh. So much scum just bandwagoning me... After that I thought I had a pretty solid game though. I question our kill choices, but I don't think we ever would have shot magua, especially knowing that he was being doc'd and no idea how the gimped docs would work.

At first I thought you were going to single-handedly bring the Inner Circle down around you.

Suffice it to say, I was pleasantly surprised with your post-Day 1 play.

Firstly: Look at the nightrider QT and tell me I was wrong.

You were wrong. It sure as heck wasn't Magna.

Secondly, IC's should flip as such, but should be able to win even with members down. (Perhaps by eliminating factions they loose their member from instead of controlling them)

So in essence they'd lose their ability to nightkill? No, that was one of the things that made them powerful/even a threat at all.

Thirdly, perhaps add an IC.

Two town ones from the get-go? That's a thought. I've also thought about adding one to each scum team instead. Just in case anyone decides to pull a Baby Spice and out half of their scum team. ;P

But really knowing an IC was down would have changed everything.

Agreed. But that wasn't how I made the setup. See my response to Kublai Khan a few posts back with regards to this matter for a more full explanation on why I didn't want ICs to flip.

Don't think it was unbalanced, but would like it a little less cut throat.

Thanks for saying you don't think it was unbalanced (I don't either). But having YOU say you'd like it a little less cutthroat, is pretty funny.

PS, ABR. . . I dont think it was bad odds for the town.
If we would have all massclaimed, taken a breath and did some scumhunting, the town had a plenty fair chance!
I think we lost on recklessness and poor fundamental play in endgame, myself included. That is all.
No odds. We were at 6 town 1 DSK, right? We were just all too rash.

A lesson for us all.. fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals.

Realistically, if KL didn't call Magua town, we would have killed him.

Yeah, but I think that's what camn is saying. If we'd taken a moment to question our "knowns", then we might have remembered that Magua (& me, really) weren't as clear as we were before we found the last NR.

She's right, too.

You are absolutely right, about camn being right. Honestly, I think camn was one of the players who could have turned it around into a town win, had she been alive. Her statement

"I think we lost on recklessness and poor fundamental play"

is more right than probably even

she

knows.

I feel like the SKs should have been some-sort of Bulletproof. Modified Bulletproof, perhaps. Oneshot, enabled by each other, etc. SOMETHING.

They did. They were each one-shot BP/LP, excepting the situation where they were to kill each other. Lo and behold, it happened on Day 1, and my jaw dropped.

Inner Circle is BAD BARGAIN. Honestly, the scumteams have all the right to be pissed; someone within an alignment-confirmed group that wins with another group is bollocks. Sorry, but the IC was a BAD IDEA.

RC, the mafia having a mole is definitely unbalanced, when the scumteams go in there like they did. Should they have paid more attention to the moles? Sure. Were the moles a bad idea? Yes. The self-sacrificing scumbags is precisely why moles are a bad idea.

I'm sorry, but the idea of a mole is just a bad idea.
There's no real way for the mafia to get around it, ESPECIALLY when you don't flip IC's as IC. If you had done that it would have been a BIT better.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Not to mention, this information was all on the wiki, LONG before the game started, and was in fact probably the reason many of the players joined this game. Well, aside from the fact that it was an RC-mod, and RC-mods are always epic.

And that'd not even mentioning the excellent player-list loaded with caliber, which would be a draw to anyone.

Town had enough PRs, I guess. Invest-Immune SKs is just part of the job.

The SK's weren't investigation-immune.

Short Ends of the Stick:
Night SK (given the day-one can't be Roleblocked)

He could easily have just NOT LURKED. And yes, the DSK was "more powerful" than the NSK in terms of nobody being able to block/protect/redirect/track/etc. But that doesn't mean the NSK was a weak role by any stretch. He just hit bad breaks: Being killed Day 1, and Being killed by the only person who could kill him in 1 shot. Trust me, I was crying on the inside when I had to flip him so early. I was also kind of worried about how it would affect the setup. I had counted on him being there for at least a while, to help cull the town's numbers a bit.

Not So Short Ends of the Stick:
Day SK

Yes, the DSK still had a short end of the stick. Even though he was a little more powerful and less detectable than the NSK, and made some smashing choices on who to kill off (Killing off the NSK on Day 1 is pretty f*ckin spectacular), and there is no way you can say that he was OP. It was him vs. 23 other players, and he came out standing on top.

Shouldn't Have Happened:
IC

Again, we'll have to agree to disagree on this. They were the reason this game happened.

They were also the reason a lot of people joined. They turn the setup from something rather normal into something rather different, new and interesting. That is explained a bit more above in an earlier response to you.

Nice job. You framed Camn really well. How exactly did your kill work?

I had a dayvig I could use at any time during the day. I was allowed to pre-submit the kill, along with when it would go off. Nearly all of my kills (except for Magna, IIRC) were timed to go off when the target was at L-1. The day I killed Magna, I had submitted a kill for Kise to die at L-1, but overrode it after BabySpice claimed. (I thought at the time that killing Magna would cause the other two IC to die, for some strange reason; in retrospect, it wasn't a good kill.)

>.>
<.<

...

>.<

My fault. Wiki error.

I think it was fairly obvious the reason I was trying to appear scummy; it's because I didn't want to get daykilled. In the end it came down to Kast's decision and he "liked" Magua more. I am not liked. BAWW

FWIW, I was more scared of you than any other player in the game. I was *really* worried that D7, D8, or D9 would start with you placing a strike on me and starting a bandwagon. If it's any consolation.

That's exactly why I put the "tributary" stuff in the flavor, about you killing him off last on purpose, etc.

And thanks (more seriously) to everyone for the scummy nomination. And thanks to RC for modding.

You're welcome on both counts, and as for the scummy nom, you deserve it.

So why wasn't UT bulletproof?

I asked RC this question when I saw the flip. He told me that I didn't know. =P

Again, see the Mod Notes.
(you will have to scroll down a lot to get to them)

The Inner Circle were composed of curiouskarmadog, Hrezs, and Friend/Xalxe/Mute

I'm amazed that two of the three IC were under suspicion and possible lynch targets D1.

Yeah, me too. That, coupled with their limitations and disadvantages if one of them were to be killed, made me worried that I had underpowered them if something drastic were to happen on Day 1. I was a little worried for a while, but they were able to handle it, and as time went on, it actually might have helped out a bit (due to the trend I've noticed that whoever gets wagoned-but-not-lynched on Day 1 seems to be left alive a lot longer in subsequent days than you'd think). So... *shrug*

Also I was avoiding the words DSK as much as possible, and doing anti-town things, and striking early, because I didn't want to fucking get daykilled.

I hate serial day killers, worse role for me !

Well, that strategy worked out pretty well for you, in terms of not being day-killed.

I'm surprised you weren't night-killed either, though. I thought you'd be one of the first to go, after your performance on Day 1.

stuff

No.

The IC was unfair to the scumteams because if a member of the IC is about to go down, the optimal play is ALWAYS to out the entire scumteam so they reduce the chance of their buddy being lynched.

Example: Friend is about to be lynched. Outs me, Magna, and Baby Spice. Town spends next 3 days lynching us ... aka, NOT THE IC.

This play is always 100% optimal. There is no rebuttal - this game was unfair to the scum. End. Of. Story. Stop trying to pretend the setup wasn't borked.

Alright, whoa.

a) This didn't actually happen, however possible you make it sound,
b) I'm not trying to pretend it couldn't have happened, but... it didn't,
c) You're right that it would have been optimal play, if it HAD happened, but
d) You're also forgetting that it wouldn't take 3 days, because of crosskills, DSK/NSK kills, etc.

Also, e) Feel free to drop the attitude and be constructive in your criticism, please.

As I recall, I was going to deny you entry to this game due to your dickery in Blackest Night Mafia, but you fussed in the signup thread that you should be allowed to join, and I (being Mr. Nice Guy) caved, and let you play regardless. And now you're doing the same thing as Magna, whining and stamping your feet about a setup THAT YOU READ PRIOR TO WANTING TO /IN FOR THE GAME.

So... if you feel like being helpful, and can do so without trying to start a monkey sh!t fight, then please answer me these questions:
1. As a mod, what would you have done to mitigate the problem you describe?
and/or, Do you feel that

anything

could be done, from a mod standpoint?
2. Why don't you think this happened, even when it appeared likely (by the unofficial "votes") that Hrezs would be killed on Day 1?
3. As an Inner Circle member, would you have ever thought of doing this:

"Hey guys, let's try this. The Night Serial Killer is already dead, so here's the plan. We're going to have Friend (Night Rider IC) and ckd (Skull-Crusher IC) out both of their scum teams, and then when all 8 of them are dead, the NSK is dead too, and the only thing left in the way of a town victory will be a DSK lynch. We have an arseload of townies left, so let's just lynch each one of them until we find the killer, JUST LIKE the Assassin in the Palace breaking strategy (which is on that wiki page, if you're interested). After the DSK is dead, poof! We win, because the town has removed all threats to the town, and our now-Survivor Inner Circle member will still be alive! Town + IC (through proxy of IC-survivor) win! .... IT'S FOOLPROOF GUYS! KEKEKE"

See? However unlikely, it's possible that people could try to break the setup just like this. That's the point of some parts of the setup being closed beforehand, so people can't formulate viable breaking strategies. Enough of the setup was open to play a fun game, but enough of it was closed to make the game still mysterious.

stuff

No.

The IC was unfair to the scumteams because if a member of the IC is about to go down, the optimal play is ALWAYS to out the entire scumteam so they reduce the chance of their buddy being lynched.

Example: Friend is about to be lynched. Outs me, Magna, and Baby Spice. Town spends next 3 days lynching us ... aka, NOT THE IC.

This play is always 100% optimal. There is no rebuttal - this game was unfair to the scum. End. Of. Story. Stop trying to pretend the setup wasn't borked.

@ALG: But the thing is that didn't happen. A scum member outted themselves + their members except for the IC. You can't say the game was unfair because they could do that, when they never did. And I doubt they woulda.

QFT.

Well just to me I didn't trust LLD because CKD didn't push for an ALG kill when he obviously knew he was going to be killed that night. I thought about CKD been the inner circle member, but to me it made more sense that LLD was and at that point we had lost the game. But then again, I would actually never claim scum in thread nor fuck over my scum mates like that. Its poor sportmanship.

Also 100% agreed. I thought that was terrible play.

PS, ABR. . . I dont think it was bad odds for the town.
If we would have all massclaimed, taken a breath and did some scumhunting, the town had a plenty fair chance!
I think we lost on recklessness and poor fundamental play in endgame, myself included. That is all.
No odds. We were at 6 town 1 DSK, right? We were just all too rash.

A lesson for us all.. fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals.

Realistically, if KL didn't call Magua town, we would have killed him.

That was entirely possible. Though, I don't know why KL would have called him town, because he never got any results on Magua.

Really, I was more surprised that he DIDN'T call you out as scum. I mean, not revealing ANY of his results was a big, fat, for me.

Dude Magua was a dead man walking.

You're correct that ABR messed up his claims, but he was right about blocking Mute and no night kill. I believe his claim. ABR being a lazy idiot and screwing up an honest claim is not unusual for ABR.

Kast knew I was town. I knew Kast was town. We knew Kise and KK weren't lying. That left SC, camn and Magua. SC played a great game. We had three lynches.

There was no way we wouldn't have won, but Kast said "Killing ABR is more important to me than winning" so Magua won. Magua is a skilled player, but he didn't

have

to use his skill. He got the game handed to him.

No, I had it won the moment you and Kast struck StrangerCoug D8, because I could've immediately killed at the start of D9.

I held back because I was scared that there might be a hiccup (Kast having the vest, or Kast being able to endgame in some weird scenario). If one of you had struck me first, I would've daykilled the other right then and there, which would've been a no lynch. I was holding back hoping that you would strike Kast and I could get him lynched.

So, <3 to Kast for liking me, but Kast liking me didn't cost you the win.

Could have speedlynched you though

No, I don't think so. He was online, and would have busted out the daykill way too fast. He knew exactly what he'd need to do to finish the game off, and had planned it down to the last kill beforehand. I don't think you guys ever had a chance, after you speedlynched StrangerCoug.

He had the daykill submitted long before I finished "officially" starting the day, which had already ACTUALLY started the second that the previous day ended. And on the final Day, he was very patient as I finished writing flavor for the endgame, haha.

I still have to go fill in a few "flavor coming later!"s on Day 7 and 8

[ReaperCharlie]

I still disagree that it was playing to your wincon, but, what is your solution?

Making it so that the IC need all three alive to win? Or having it so that they flip IC upon death, but that the faction remains alive?

Can't have both.

[ReaperCharlie]

Welll... you're somewhat right about the Inner Circle wincon needing to be made more clear, but to be fair, it

did

say in plain text on the wiki:

"The Inner Circle wins when they control the majority of the players left."

So... I'm not sure why there was any confusion as to when they would have won, if they'd have made it that far.

Ah, my bad. I meant confusion about their Lose-Condition.

Ah. Then yes. I agree.

And even though one could successfully argue that the non-omission of that one phrase "The IC must all be alive in order... etc" can be cited as the main reason that Baby Spice and Exe outed themselves and their scumbuddies, resulting in their lynch/death by DSK/etc... consider the following:

1. Their win condition did not include killing the mole in their faction, or even exposing him or her.
2. They

knew

that doing so would give up 50% (66.7% in Baby Spice's case) of their scum team.
3. Therefore, they played actively

against

their wincon, in order to try to screw over someone else. Regardless of the consequences.

I think it's more arguable then you're willing to accept.

1. True, the mole did not have to be killed or neutralized, but the existence of the mole impede's the scum's ability to successfully plot and strategize (not literally, but mentally).
2. Sure.
3. Not really. Their wincon did not dictate that all scum needed to be alive for their team to win. when only 1 scum member exists, then they can be as hard to kill as a serial killer. It's a ballsy play, but it's not against wincon. And often the earlier that they are solo, then less scum-interaction could ensnare them.

1. Yes. But if it IS mental and not literal, and mafia is a game of mentality, then what's the problem? I mean... seriously. I almost feel like posting a trollface here (...problem?), but I don't think it'd help my case.
2. (was 3). It was ballsy, yes. But it was also stupid. It literally takes

days

longer to achieve majority, when you take out that many of your scum team. With NKs and DKs floating around in as liberal a fashion as they did, it was absolutely the wrong move, and was ARGUABLY the WORST possible way of dealing with the IC short of announcing your entire faction in-thread and saying "one of us is IC-scum, lynch away". The scum-interaction point is nearly immaterial compared to the numbers argument, in terms of endgaming power.

Not to mention the fact that they were both wrong anyway. They both revealed an actual scumbuddy, not a member of the Inner Circle. Ouch.

Yes, the scum teams would have been in a better position had they known. But this game was not about mod-outguessing and setup-breaking, it was about the dichotomy of trusting those who you can't trust, and not trusting those who you would normally be able to trust. Yes, it's insane. Yes, it's frustrating. But also yes, it's groundbreaking.

Eh.. I'll give you groundbreaking. But if it's not fun, then what good is it?

How do you think it could have been more fun for the scum teams? Or do you think it was just a failed experiment. This is an honest question.

And it's especially about "THE TURNING POINT", which is something I'd like to write a MD thread about. "The Turning Point" is the point at which you stop actively working WITH the rival scum team (to cull the town of its excess of power), and working AGAINST them in order to accomplish your own ends, eliminate them, survive, and win.

Both scum teams misjudged The Turning Point this game, acting far too early. They also both misjudged the proper manner in which to MAKE the Turn against the Inner Circle. The proper way would have been to try to kill an OPPOSING team's member of the Inner Circle, and watch the way their scumbuddies interacted with OTHER people during the day (and how they spoke about them at Night time during the quicktopic). This would have weakened the Inner Circle and severely limited their sphere of influence.

Well, I didn't play the game from the scum point of view, but generally it's usually hard enough to identify the other scum team member's. Much less pin-point the member of the Inner Circle.
If you want to run an experiment, recruit someone to read the game. Tell them all the members of 1 scumteam. Then have him read Day 1 and ask him to identify the IC member of the second scumteam. Then Day 2, then day 3, etc.. See if they can uncover them. I'm willing to bet that they aren't going to have a good success rate.

I'd be willing to bet that the DSK trying to kill the NSK on Day 1 wouldn't have a good success rate either.

I was thinking about it today while out running errands.. What about instead of choosing 1 member of each faction to be Inner Circle, you just announce that 3 non-SK players are the Inner Circle? You still get the distrust within the scumgroups, but with the extra WIFOM that maybe they have nothing to worry about. (Secretly, you could still choose 1 of each group, but they don't need to know).

Hmmm... that'd be a good idea. I like that. We should mod a game together eventually. Go pick a game from the "Which game should I run next?" topic in my sig and I'll let you know if I don't already have somebody lined up. Though, no guarantees that they'll be anything like this one. Which might or might not be a good thing, depending on your point of view.

That, again, is just part of the nature of the beast. Due to the flavor, according to the absence of any kind of "outed" Law and Order, people will act with a mob mentality, even those who are supposed to be

upholding

Law and Order. I was also very surprised that nobody ever wanted to kill off Albert B. Rampage, even though he was the loose cannon on many of those occasions. I tried to hint at this in the closing/ending flavor, when the Serial Killer, Magua, is talking to ABR before he kills him. He thanks him for being "that guy" who is always going against the best plan for the town, which in this case was "voting" before actually striking someone. And believe you me, if you've ever been in an enclosed space with a bunch of people who feel trapped, once somebody starts throwing blows, things start blowing up. Everyone polarizes almost right away, and opinions don't change around much once left jabs and right hooks are being thrown and received.

Oh, I know. Nature of the beast, and all. But ABR was a pretty solid town read while he was doing his shenanigans, specifically because he was ballsy instead of cautious. With so many scum around, we really didn't have the luxury of a policy lynch. Plus suggesting a policy lynch is often a scum-tell to many people (especially a non-VI policy lynch), so it just invites trouble. Striking is good in theory, but obnoxious in practice, y'know?

I think it was good in practice too. It worked out exactly how I thought would happen.

What you said earlier though, about Striking AND the Inner Circle being in the same game: I have to kind of agree, after seeing how this worked out. It made proper scumhunting harder when there were loose cannons like ABR striking people indiscriminately.

Also.. Scum QTs?

That's up to them.

[ReaperCharlie]

I still disagree that it was playing to your wincon, but, what is your solution?

Making it so that the IC need all three alive to win? Or having it so that they flip IC upon death, but that the faction remains alive?

Can't have both.

Flip's.

Making all three alive is kind of swingy with a probable 5 kills (including lynch) on D1/N1

I agree.

It's a pity how this game played out and the consternation it caused. It would be nice to see this in a slightly altered state, based on some of the comments, and without the infamous wiki-error.

And yet, that is the only option without any votes. I don't know whether to be flattered or insulted yet, but...

Fun fact:

The second-most-sought-after, so far at least, is a dueling cults game. *pumps fist*

[ReaperCharlie]

You mean if the IC auto-lost if they recruited scum? I don't think that would have been very cool. You probably wouldn't have, either. Haha

No, I mean had we tried to recruit the sk, cop or jk and lost the game when we attempted to recruit(as we would have been outed to them).

Working under the assumption that the doc refusing to join us would lose us the game seemed like the safest play.

Well, it

was

the safest play.

But anyway, now you know what would have happened (well, if you got around to reading the Mod Notes that is).

[ReaperCharlie]

a) This didn't actually happen, however possible you make it sound,
b) I'm not trying to pretend it couldn't have happened, but... it didn't,
c) You're right that it would have been optimal play, if it HAD happened, but
d) You're also forgetting that it wouldn't take 3 days, because of crosskills, DSK/NSK kills, etc.

You aren’t actually refuting the argument here. Yes, this didn’t happen … because the scumteams imploded

trying to prevent this scenario from happening

before it did. That doesn’t change the fact that this scenario should not have existed in the first place … let alone been the OPTIMAL play for the faction.

Why is the optimal play? Because as IC, you have ZERO allegiance to the scumteam, and outing them helps you because it a) sets up a series of deaths that are guaranteed not to be your own and b) eliminates an uncontrolled kill that could hit one of your members. It doesn’t matter how many days it takes or whatever – you’re about to be lynched, you out them. The end. It’s the best move.

Having a bulletproof (and beat-to-death-proof) vest guaranteed that if one of their members was under suspicion, the Inner Circle could keep him invincibly alive for an indefinite period of time. This was their first line of defense when faced with one of their members being near lynch, not "Hey, let's out the scum teams and pull out the champagne!". I am not saying that this bug/feature doesn't exist, I am merely saying that I did what I felt could be done to mitigate the risk of it happening.

I am a firm believer in the stance that pushing mod-side problems onto the player-side makes up for a poor player experience. Therefore, I couldn't just tell them "You can't out the scum teams" in the same way we tell people "You can't quote your Role PM". The best I can do is to give them incentives NOT to do so, and providing them with means to STAY ALIVE, so that faction-destroying strategies upon threat of death aren't really necessary strategies.

What do you think could be done, above and beyond what I did, to make sure something like that wouldn't happen?

That is a problem by any reasonable standard, and I would like to see your response to it (because I have not seen one thus far). Saying “well, there’s other factors like SKS and crosskills and stuff ” is fine, but at that point, you’re just reducing our chances down to luck – we just have to pray that our mole gets killed in the night before he gets lynched in the day.

There's a measure of luck in everything, theme game or otherwise. Denying this is pointless.

I'm sure Magua could have just as easily picked anyone else to kill on Day 1, but he decided to listen to camn, who told him to kill Untrod Tripod, who happened to be the NSK. Who happened to be bulletproof, but whose ability happened to have a caveat that if he was killed by the rival SK, that his bulletproof would not apply.

And if you think my games reduce people's chances down to dumb luck rather than skill, think again.

It's hardly luck that helped Magua win.

Also, e) Feel free to drop the attitude and be constructive in your criticism, please.

I have an attitude mostly because a) this is the second time you have run what is essentially a bastard game advertised as a “theme” game and b) you are relatively non-responsive to criticism. But okay, I’ll try.

Fair warning:

Any and all theme games you play may have non-normal elements (i.e. redirectors, framers, cults, significantly altered theme-based mechanics, etc). Mine included. If you don't like that, avoid my games. Or even more broadly: avoid theme games. Normal games are fun, too, right?

Maybe try comparing this game to an xRECKONERx game (take your pick which). Whose is more bastardly? Whose is more complicated? What's the major difference between them? Because I can't really tell the difference, and his games seem to end a lot faster than mine (i.e. I balance my Mini Themes to last at least 5 days, and my Large Themes to last at least 7 days, and even in a complete rout, they have never gone less than that). So I'm not sure where the difference is, but all I know is that to me, lasting longer = more balanced.

And when you think about the fact that this game had six different factions, all with mutually exclusive wincons, I think that's plenty balanced enough. If you've got a problem with that many factions (and just that much less chance to win per person, unfortunately, then there are plenty of other Large Themes to complain your way into, and NOT replace out of.

Also, define "bastard". You said "what is essentially a bastard game", but you failed to define what you think "bastard" means in this sense.

As I recall, I was going to deny you entry to this game due to your dickery in Blackest Night Mafia, but you fussed in the signup thread that you should be allowed to join, and I (being Mr. Nice Guy) caved, and let you play regardless. And now you're doing the same thing as Magna, whining and stamping your feet about a setup THAT YOU READ PRIOR TO WANTING TO /IN FOR THE GAME.

What I read changed after I signed up and after the game had started. The instant-IC death clause checked back the entire argument I am making above because if the IC was about to die, they lost anyway, so they at least had the concept of honor keeping them from outing the scum (e.g., well, we lost, but at least maybe town won’t win!)

Yep. I've admitted that mistake freely and repeatedly.

With the modifications and all the secret mod notes, it is incredibly clear the scum had ZERO chance to win this game. Had I known that, I would not have joined.

I disagree. Not only that the scum had ZERO chance to win, but, I still think you would have joined.

And rest assured, I probably won’t be joining any of your games in the future, because as awesome as the graphics and setup look on paper, there’s always some secret twist that pops out that I end up not liking.

Um, the "secret twist" which you're complaining about was on the wiki before the game even started. It was plainly available to see, for those who wanted to see. That's what I've been sayin'.

Also, I complained about Blackest Knight too, so don’t put me in the same self-serving catergory as Magna.

I'm sorry, I won't compare you with Magna in this case. But please know that any complaining an un-constructive attitude all begins to blur together after a while.

1. As a mod, what would you have done to mitigate the problem you describe?
and/or, Do you feel that anything could be done, from a mod standpoint?

1) Don’t have moles.
1a) If you must have moles, make them as straightforward as possible (e.g., don't have tons of hidden mechanics on top of it) and dependent on the scumteam to survive.

No hidden mechanics? What's the point of a bastard-mod theme game then?

2) No-flip is bastard mod by most interpretations – if you are going to have it, you must advertise it.

It only applied to one out of 6 factions. That's entirely different than a completely no-reveal game. I was well within my rights. And who defines my rights there anyway? I am forced to conclude in the lack of any evidence to the contrary that my rights are whatever I perceive them to be. And I perceived that to be just fine.

3) Recruitment is also bastard mod and not expected even in semi-closed setups (didn't we learn this lesson in Blackest Knight...?)

This wasn't a cult game, AGM. There was a 1-shot recruit ability usable, under certain circumstances, and he transitioned back to his original faction by his own choice (he considered staying Inner Circle, btw). So I don't see any problems there.

4) Don’t change the wincon of any team midgame - let alone a team with extra information. If you messed it up, still keep it as is, or declare the game a draw.

Nothing about their wincon ever changed.

"The Inner Circle wins when they control the majority of the players left"

has been on the wiki since Day 1, and hasn't changed since.

2. Why don't you think this happened, even when it appeared likely (by the unofficial "votes") that one of them might be killed on Day 1?

Because he hadn’t actually been struck yet and/or the IC hadn’t thought of this plan.

Have you even read the Inner Circle quicktopic?

3. As an Inner Circle member, would you have ever thought of doing this:

"Hey guys, let's try this. The Night Serial Killer is already dead, so here's the plan. We're going to have Friend (Night Rider IC) and ckd (Skull-Crusher IC) out both of their scum teams, and then when all 8 of them are dead, the NSK is dead too, and the only thing left in the way of a town victory will be a DSK lynch. We have an arseload of townies left, so let's just lynch each one of them until we find the killer, JUST LIKE the Assassin in the Palace breaking strategy (which is on that wiki page, if you're interested). After the DSK is dead, poof! We win, because the town has removed all threats to the town, and our now-Survivor Inner Circle member will still be alive! Town + IC (through proxy of IC-survivor) win! .... IT'S FOOLPROOF GUYS! KEKEKE"

See? However unlikely, it's possible that people could try to break the setup just like this. That's the point of some parts of the setup being closed beforehand, so people can't formulate viable breaking strategies. Enough of the setup was open to play a fun game, but enough of it was closed to make the game still mysterious.

That’s not the argument I am making. I’m saying that IF an IC member is already about to be lynched, they out their team. Not they just implode on the spot. See my above arguments as to why they would do this.

Your arguments were why it would be

smart

to do that, under circumstances which weren't necessarily the case.

You could also have argued to your scum team why it would be

smart

NOT

to out half your scum team trying to find the mole.

But that's just my opinion.

[ReaperCharlie]

Daykill: Faraday

Do it at the usual time, right before the lynch.

Noted.

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm sorry, I guess I'm not very clear..

Let me setup a scenario.. What if an IC suddenly had a few quick strikes, and they said "Stop, I'm a cop. Here are some guilties on scums" or worse, "woah, hold on. I'm an IC. I can spoon-feed you the names of scum if you let me live"?

{Before you say that the second quote is implausible as it would be bad play, I need to remind you that your players are human and as such are prone to playing horribly}

Those are the scenarios that give scum nightmares when they think about moles. They have to eliminate worst case scenarios and the mole announcing the scum team to the town is a mega-nightmare. Reducing the scum team to one (most trusted) member is a good way to eliminate the mole and keep a chance at success. That's why I don't think that Exe and Baby Spice's strategy was *that* horrible. (Though Exe did leap to a wrong conclusion after Magua survived.)

I agree. That could easily have happened. But that's also why they had the bulletproof vest, to greatly reduce the chances of that happening. They had Hrezs wear the bulletproof vest for quite a while, and once Friend flaked, they started having him wear it too because he was a more likely lynch target.

How do you think it could have been more fun for the scum teams? Or do you think it was just a failed experiment. This is an honest question.

Well, flips would be a must. Otherwise the scum teams were doomed to failure as soon as they became a 2-person team.

If CKD had flipped IC, then would Exe have outed LLD? Hells, no. The SC team might have had a strong chance of winning. (or at least felt like they had a fair chance).

I think that if they'd all realized that they'd have to trust each other at least barely enough to kill people without imploding and destroying themselves from the inside out, that they'd have felt a little bit more like they had a fair chance. Then again, that is not how the players chose to play that role. If I did this setup again though, I'd probably make the Inner Circle members flip Inner Circle upon death.

I was thinking about it today while out running errands.. What about instead of choosing 1 member of each faction to be Inner Circle, you just announce that 3 non-SK players are the Inner Circle? You still get the distrust within the scumgroups, but with the extra WIFOM that maybe they have nothing to worry about. (Secretly, you could still choose 1 of each group, but they don't need to know).

Hmmm... that'd be a good idea. I like that. We should mod a game together eventually. Go pick a game from the "Which game should I run next?" topic in my sig and I'll let you know if I don't already have somebody lined up. Though, no guarantees that they'll be anything like this one. Which might or might not be a good thing, depending on your point of view.

I think I already voted a while back when you first posted the topic.. As for co-modding, who knows what the future brings?

I don't know which you voted for, and/or which you'd like to mod, if any. Wanna post there and let me know?

[ReaperCharlie]

I think just about everything that needed to be said about the setup was discussed in the dead qt.

Which no one's linked to yet for me. =/

Dead QT, please.

Sorry everyone, it's here: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/ZkJJ9DFBLm3ch (I've also PM'd it to you, Magua)

1. One about the setup, things you liked and didn't like, ways you think it could be improved, etc.

Obviously, I liked my role. But, I also feel sorry for the Night SK; it just seems so weak compared to the DSK.

Nature of the beast. All SK's are not created equal.

I like the Inner Circle concept. But I do think that there needs to be some feedback on IC deaths (regardless of whether they all need to be alive or not). As it was, the scum were essentially playing their own internal game of mafia, except that it was no-reveal and they couldn't lynch.

Well, when you put it THAT way...

I think just labelling the IC flips is good enough. Maybe even leave off the town IC flip, to keep the paranoia going about whether the IC has been destroyed or not. Maybe also allow the scum to lynch one of their own instead of night-killing. if they so desire.

Hmmm... having the scum kill one of their own by popular vote... Heavy risk... but the prize...

I actually kind of enjoyed the /strike system. Part of this may be emotional (it heavily worked in my favor), but because it did personify some of the themes for the game. It was totally a workable system to just vote and not strike, but it got tossed, and part of me found that to be almost artistic.

It is a Mechanic I am very proud of. I feel that the 60% and 40% thresholds are better than 50% when it comes to mob ruling, but do you think that having 50% and 30% (for instance) may have been better, in terms of town coordination and calculation into the equation of the loose cannons like ABR and Toogeloo? I thought about changing them somewhat, but in the end I obviously set them at the level they were at on purpose. I think it worked out well the way it was.

(It might be interesting to have more roles be able to interact with /strikes, though: like, a paramedics can undo some/all strikes on someone once a day, things like that.)

Now that for sure is something that could be ... "Revisited". (groan)

I think if I was to run this setup again, less of the powers would be relegated to Night-only or Day-only. There would be many more powers available during the Day, and/or people would have a choice of whether to use their power during the Day or during the Night.

2. One about the players, who you think did well/poorly, happenings that you really enjoyed, etc.

Like I said, ABR scared the everloving bejeezus out of me. And the thing was, starting D3, he was *right* on *everything*.

And yet, you waited until DAY NINE to kill him? Sheesh, man. You must

thrive

on stress.

Although I wasn't aware of it in the game, I'd be hella pissed at Friend if I was IC and died because a roleblock wasn't submitted to save me. He flaked out of a game I modded as well, so confirmation bias is definitely going on there.

Everybody loses when people flake.

Finally, I really enjoyed reading the flavor, which have to be my favorite flavor scenes so far that don't involve Faraday

butchering

rapping the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

There are places for those kinds of words.

[ReaperCharlie]

Before releasing a list of the game's quicktopics, I would like to ensure that nobody has any qualms with releasing them.

The Night Riders and Inner Circle have already released theirs, the Dead QT is free after the game obviously, and now I wait only for Skull-Crusher approval.

Let me know if it's alright with you guys, eh?

[ReaperCharlie]

God, really? RC, you're asking for people to nom you for Scummies AGAIN? Have some class, dude.

1. I didn't ask anyone to nom me. Whatchu talkin bout willis?
2. What the hell do you mean when you say: "AGAIN?"
3. If the man likes the flavor, why

wouldn't

he nom it?
4. How is what I did classless in any way? I fail to understand.
5. Also, semi-important. Were you even in this game? If not, stfu.

Hell, I even decided to give you a second try as a mod too, because I thought maybe you would change based on past feedback.

You

decided to give

ME

a second chance as a mod?! LOL

More like

*I*

decided to give

you

a second try as a player.

Condensed version (click the links if you don't 'member):

Bahhh this game looks so awesome

/in

AGM? in my game? lolno. peep this shit

ReaperCharlie is questioning my /in to this game via PM on the basis that I have an overly abrasive playstyle (to use his words, "I just wanted some assurance that if I let you in, that you wouldn't be an asshat like I've seen you be in other games").

Your posts are nasty and spammy. Are you going to post in caps and insult people in this game too?

I spam and insult as the situation warrants.

I just don't really see why ReaperCharlie,

who isn't even playing in the game

, should be the one deciding whether I'm too abrasive or not.

"playing in the game?" ... bitch im the

mod

I still want to play

/in

fiiiine. just dont be a doucheweed and make me regret it

Ring any bells?

Cause it is preeeeetty clear in my memory how it went down.

Anyway:

I don't think that recruitment, even one-shot, is okay.

Noted.

I don't think no-flip is okay.

Noted.

I don't think changing the wincon was okay.

Didn't happen, but Noted anyway.

I don't think the IC being allowed to lose members yet still win was okay.

Noted.

Hey... wait a second...

you

were the one that begged to be let into the game, and complained that I didn't let you in without extra convincing. You seem to keep forgetting that detail... but w/e, it's cool

But you don't think any of those things. You think it's okay to have setups with completely swingy (and unfair) mechanics because they are "theme" games

Yeah this setup was completely swingy and unfair. You caught me.

A 24-player game ending on Day 9 is

clearly

off its rocker.

You think that we aren't allowed to complain because the setup was 90% "open," and that everyone who dislikes the setup is just whining because they lost.

Nope, just you and Magna (this time).

You had the EXACT same response to Blackest Knight, so I'm really confidant at this point that this is just your de-facto attitude towards moderating.

Nah, I'd say my attitude is light-years different. And if you weren't tunneling on me like noobtown you'd see that I spent 5 hours discussing the setup with other people today, and most if not all of it was constructive.

You design and moderate games that you think are cool, and then you run them. And that's fine. I'm sure there is a market of people who agree with you and like your games ... and they can have fun playing in your games.

Yep, and by and large, those are the people that continue to play in games I mod. Heck, IIRC Magna has played in every single game I've modded on this site under this name. If that changes now that he's "come to the light" and seen what an INCORRIGIBLE B-MOD that I apparently am, and no longer wants to play my games, then that's fine too! He doesn't have to play them either!

I'm sure there is a market of people who agree with you and like your games. I, unfortunately, do not

Then the answer is simple. Don't play my games. There are plenty of others in the Large Theme Queue, if that's your preferred poison.

Pro-tip: Trying to /in for my games, and then complaining after I refuse your entry, until I cave and finally let you /in, proooobably isn't the right move if you don't like my games. Just a heads up.

it really doesn't seem worth it to argue about it because I don't think you are ever going to change your moderating style, regardless of what I have to say.

You'd probably do better in terms of influencing my moderating style if you didn't come across as a whiny, complaining asshat. Take notes from Kublai Khan, or ThAdmiral, or StrangerCoug, heck, even Baby Spice. Who I have continually ragged on for making quite possibly the stupidest move of the game. And they are all still acting civil. I don't know what the difference is between you and Magna, but I can say with 100% positivity that if Baby Spice hadn't outed you guys, and your faction would have won, that neither of you two clowns would be dissing the setup.

Pathetic, yes.

True, yes.

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah, BS didn't play against her wincon. at the end of the day she was trying to kill someone whose wincon was mutually exclusive with hers, so I don't think that can be considered playing against your wincon.

Um... are you backtracking on what you said in the dead QT? Check it out:

The fact that we had Baby Spice on our team pretty much fucked us.

The worst part is even if Baby Spice is totally wrong and an idiot

(hint: she was)

, the fact that she had the OPPORTUNITY to make that kind of play and CONSIDER it rational should not happen.

Even a scumteam ends up with a completely awful player on their team, that person should at least have the INCREDIBLY BASIC common sense not to out their teammates.

Remember those things you said? Or no...

Well either way, don't worry it's ok. I'm becoming quite used to your story and/or attitude changing when it's convenient. But the sad part is that the only thing worse than you changing your story, IS your terrible attitude about all of this.

Seriously. The only hissy fits being thrown in this endgame are yours and Magna's. It's kind of old.

Also, go to any other mod and say "This game should end in a draw! rabble rabble rabble", and see how it goes over. My bets are on a polite "haha. not a chance, champ" at best, ranging to a "gtfo you rebel scum! *draws blaster*" at worst. So in comparison, I'm being rather even with you about it, I'd say.

Aaaanyway...

[ReaperCharlie]

No. Outing your scum buddies is NOT playing to win... under ANY circumstances. You are not gonna change my mind on this; don't try.

And no, I didn't brush off the wiki thing. I recognized and admitted multiple times that it was quite an error, and was pretty unfortunate.

If I'm a childish, immature, raging dickbag for pointing out fallacies in what people say, then fine.... I guess that's exactly what I am.

Also, you read the wiki before the game. You knew the IC existed. You knew there were 6 factions. Yes, longer game = more balanced.

No-flips have been discussed already, it's been a foregone conclusion that IC shoulda flipped. You're a bit late to the convo on that one.

As for the cult thing, stop complaining about Blackest Night already (and a 1-shot *reversible* recruit ability is not equal to a cult, lol)

[ReaperCharlie]

Relevant part in the below post is in

red

.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 5#p2857175
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 1#p2869961

Metropolis: Revisited

, presented by

ReaperCharlie

You are at an amusement park in the downtown area of a large city called Metropolis. This is the fourth in a series of Mafia games which take place in the Metropolis universe; the first was run on another Mafia site with a very similar theme. Two gangs called the Skull-Crushers and the Night Riders have been terrorizing the patrons of the amusement park, and fighting over their turf. The Skull-Crushers are a gothic gang with chains and black hair, and the Night Riders are a biker gang with leather and spikes. The object of the game is save yourself and the rest of the Citizens, and root out the gang members and kill them off before they have a chance to hurt you and any of your friends! Beware, however. There are many dangers that await you in the heart of the Big City, so watch your back!

Players:

24 players

Modded by:

ReaperCharlie

Backups:

SpyreX, Percy

Reviewers:

SpyreX, Percy

Game Prerequisites:

- Three or more completed theme games
-

Experience with non-Normal mechanics

- Good references from past moderators
- Sufficient activity levels in past games
- Being "on my good side" in general
- Special cases may be accepted; ask.

Pre-/ins are being accepted now.

Just add yourself on the wiki page.

That indication, coupled with the glut of information on the wiki, is plenty adequate in my opinion to warn players that they are getting into a game with non-Normal mechanics. If you played Blackest Night, you knew full well what you may or may not be getting into, so I have absolutely zero sympathy for you. And if you didn't play Blackest Night and didn't know what you could be getting into, and then played this game and realize you don't like my style of games... well... *shrug* ... Not much I can do about it.

But I had a lot of fun with all of you guys, and I loved modding this game.

Hope those who are interested will join next time, too!

Next games I'm running are Mass Effect Mafia and Harry Potter Mafia, both links are in my sig.
esuriospiritus and Umbrage are co-mods on Mass Effect, and Andrius is the co-mod on HP Mafia.

Anyway, see y'all. I still gotta post those surveys, sorry. I'll get to that soon.

-RC

[ReaperCharlie]

Ha!

ITT RC can't take the heat!

Nah, ITT RC is busy modding other games, starting new ones, and has spent too much time on endgame already, and unfortunately has to move on.

I can answer short questions/comments/etc but I don't have time for walls.

[ReaperCharlie]

@ Magna

Glad you liked some parts of the game. Sorry you didn't like others. Sorry I made mistakes. Oh and feel free to play Brightest Day, it's being created by danakillsu and GreyICE exclusively; I am not involved. I'm not gonna be able to play it though. We should play again together soon. I look forward to killing you!

And one extra smiley just to make sure I hit my min. requirement of 4 per post...

[ReaperCharlie]

ITT camn makes me smile. Which isn't too far off from normal.

[ReaperCharlie]

Nononononono. Not like that. I'm talking a game that lasts a certain, reasonable amount of phases without collapsing, is better than a game that ends on Day 2 because nobody who reviewed the setup thought that the Jester would actually get lynched. Hope that's a little more clear now.

Anyway, looks like this game fell squarely in the middle of that 1.5 - 2 month 'rule of thumb.'

[ReaperCharlie]

Alright. I will make sure to label all my games from now on "may or may not be more or less bastardly the moderator" or something. lol

[ReaperCharlie]

camn, me and you should get together and have a cup of hot chocolate some time.

[ReaperCharlie]

But I *am* a Russian mobster. And I *am* trying to sell you into slavery...

Not sure what's so bad about that... *shrug*

[ReaperCharlie]

If I were trying to pick up chicks, I would have just dropped by her house and snagged her already.

*lifts ring finger* Married, remember?

Is that the SitMoA one?

[ReaperCharlie]

I've heard a lot about those games, but I really know nothing about how it works. What's the hook?

[ReaperCharlie]

Ah yes, QTs. I knew I was still forgetting something. I'd wanted to get all of the permissions from the scumgroups first, and once they gave it, I just forgot to release them publicly. Enjoy.

Skull Crushers HQ: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/3Sjrc6a9diAUx
Night Riders HQ: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/kYE3jDNXm47P
Inner Circle Sanctum: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/kaBENeaPdCN4
Metropolis Deadzone: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/ZkJJ9DFBLm3ch