Mini 1135: Deadmines - DONE. PRAISE AZEROTH.

[Kairyuu]

I didn't log in for LESS than 24 hours, and you people lynched someone. We were DAMN lucky that the flips happened the way they did.

@Batt (post-mortem): I salute you.

I've now been up for just over 24 hours. Priorities are:
Sleep
Food
Raid
Content post

Several people can expect some fairly pointed questions when I'm conscious enough to remember what they were and who was supposed to get them.

[Parama]

I got a one-shot cop last night, and Sathoris isn't a Defias.
Don't have it anymore so it's worth claiming.
Not confirmed sane but whatever.

Starbuck is that a list of impossible combos?

[inHimshallibe]

Official Day 2 Vote Tally

11 players remain; 6 votes needed for a lynch.


Yet to vote (11): Xreckonerx, Parama, Antihero, Danakillsu, Kairyuu, Endertwofour, Starbuck, Maemuki, Bubbiddrskns, Smargaret, Sathoris

[Starbuck]

Starbuck is that a list of impossible combos?

Yes, it is.

I just got home from Barcelona, so give me a bit and I'll do a read over.

[Parama]

Good, because I was wondering why my role name wasn't on the list.

[danakillsu]

Well, I'm here, and the only unfortunate thing about yesterday is that it was so short, we practically have to start over. Catching scum D1, though, is awesome.

[Bub Bidderskins]

Okay, restarting the popcorn claim.

Claim: Draenei Shaman

Sathoris, you claim next.

[Parama]

Sathoris goes last.

[smargaret]

Agreed. Bub, do you understand how massclaim works?

[xRECKONERx]

Well. Sathoris is town?

Fuck.

Parama how the fuck did you get a one shot cop and then were able to use it in the same night?

Also HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH ENIGMASCUM HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA /gloat

[Bub Bidderskins]

Agreed. Bub, do you understand how massclaim works?

Yes, I do.

What makes you think that Sathoris is town?

[Sathoris]

Well I don't mind claiming now. I sort of acted the way I did for a reason which I will explain when I'll claim. When's up to you guys if you want.

[Parama]

@Reck: Some actions have to be sent in before a lynch.

[Antihero]

Agreed. Bub, do you understand how massclaim works?

Yes, I do.

What makes you think that Sathoris is town?

*palm*

[xRECKONERx]

Wait... you know who sent you that investigation/how you got it? Huh?

Also, Sathoris being town wastes my entire night action last night. /boo

PS, that ability I used yesterday to steal Antihero's vote and put it on Enigma was one-shot. So I won't be doing that again. ;_;

[Antihero]

Yeah, you kind of wasted that too since I planned on hammering Enigma anyway at the end of my line of flavor questioning... >_>

[xRECKONERx]

Oh well.

I wasn't sure how to really use that anyway, so I thought I'd do it FOR TEH LULZ.

[xRECKONERx]

Also I'll let it be known that I have one ability left to use but I'm not gonna claim what it is yet.
And I'm definitely not using it yet.
just fyi

[Parama]

I have absolutely no clue who gave me the cop.

[Kairyuu]

Quick note before I actually put out some content. Though I have no problem with the massclaim itself, you guys ARE aware that requesting it was obviously a gambit, yes? Batt flipped 'nilla. He probably intended to use it to draw the kill, which worked.

Oh, and

vote: Bub

because I'm about 99% sure that's where my reread is going to end up pointing me.

[Kairyuu]

Alright, so here we go.

I'll start with the mini-wagon on Antihero to start the game. Parama's vote was blatantly random, so nothing there. Reck's vote is similarly uninteresting. However, by placing a third vote on a pointless wagon,calling it non-random, and refusing to explain it, I was leaving my options fairly open. Either I would take a bit of heat, allowing me to analyze the motivations of my would-be persecutors, or the wagon would continue to build, allowing me to scrutinize the reasoning behind it, since anything more than three votes (technically two, but I'm excluding myself for the purposes of alignment determination, since I obviously know my own alignment) on a random wagon is at least somewhat fishy. In addition to that, I would get to see how Antihero would react to the votes on him now that there was a bit of pressure there. So no, I did not have an alignment specific reason to vote Antihero. In fact, based on his initial reactions, I'm pretty sure he's town

Bub, of course, follows me with a fourth vote, calling Antihero "obv scum" as his stated reason. I don't like it one bit. You don't call someone obv scum in conjunction with a random vote. This implies tha Bub was stating legitimate suspicion of Antihero, when he had posted no content yet. Not something that a townie would be able to claim, but I'm not sure that Bub-scum would be so blatantly opportunistic. Something to take note of, but not strong enough to draw any real conclusions from.

@smargaret: I want a good explanation as to why not sharing reasoning for voting is "at least anti-town." I expect this to be contained in your next post. If you cannot back up your assertion, then you'd better at least have an explanation for why you felt your pointless posturing was in any way beneficial to the town.

Post 49 by Bub is an echo of smargaret's "questioning" without a vote attached. I've got several problems with this. To start, what could Bub possibly hope to gain by asking a question that was a) already asked on the same page, and b) already ANSWERED on the same page. Secondly, it's a demonstration of hypocrisy, given that Bub did pretty much the exact same thing. If he considers it a problem, then he considers his own action a problem. It follows therefore, that he does not consider it a problem, which raises the question of why he's pretending to care. Thus, by his questioning he is either being opportunistic and facetious, or he is being hypocritical. Either way, his question reeks, and probably deserves a vote.

Sathoris is dumb, and somewhat scummy, but he's cop cleared, so meh.

Enigma's claim post is actually pretty impressive, if he was doing what I think he was doing. His execution of the maneuver fell a bit flat though. First of all, the claim was BLATANTLY joking, and the fact that he was lynched for not believing that, instead of something legitimate, makes me laugh. Secondly, it looks to be specifically designed to draw negative attention to himself (which should have been easy enough to disperse), while throwing off the massclaim, at least long enough for some legitimate cases to start getting thrown around, leaving it on the back burner at best, and forgotten at worst.

lol @ Starbuck thinking I have useable meta on anyone after 6 months of not even visiting the site.

Enigma's following posts are a perfect example of a terribly executed gambit. He gets a golf clap for the initial idea, but I'm very unimpressed by how he handled it.

Hmm. I missed this Enigma post on my first read through. It's not awful, but he overreaches with the OMGUS vote. Toning this one down, and cutting out the garbage between this post and his initial claim could have worked out much better for him.

Oh hey, Starbuck noticed that it was a delaying tactic. Props there.

Reck amuses me. That is all.

ender's wagon jump may very well be a buddy abandoning a sinking ship. IGMEOY

Oh right. I forgot about some of this interaction between Sathorsis and others. He was pretty much obvtown by the end of page 4. The reasons why should have been obvious to anyone paying attention.

Reck's ability/hammer was ill advised, but it netted scum that he had started the case on, so I'm willing to call him strongly town.

Now Day 2. Cop claim yadda yadda yadda. Parama-town -> Sathorsis-town. I'm willing to make that assumption for now.

Bub. Makes. Me. lol. Can we lynch him now?

This gives me a final list that looks like this:

Town:
Kairyuu
Parama
Sathorsis
Reck

Leaning town:
Mae
Starbuck
Antihero

Neutral:
ender
dana

Leaning scum:
smargaret

Scum:
Bub

[Kairyuu]

Surprisingly solid reads from such a short Day 1. Scum lynch helps.

[xRECKONERx]

Man, I've missed Kairyuu.

Though I do think you're taking the "obv scum" thing Bub said a bit too seriously.

[danakillsu]

Surprisingly solid reads from such a short Day 1. Scum lynch helps.

Yes. I agree. SURPRISINGLY solid reads. I'm not so convinced we should be lynching Bub immediately.

[xRECKONERx]

Hello, everyone. Expect at least a little something in the next 24 hours.

Well, I'm here, and the only unfortunate thing about yesterday is that it was so short, we practically have to start over. Catching scum D1, though, is awesome.

Surprisingly solid reads from such a short Day 1. Scum lynch helps.

Yes. I agree. SURPRISINGLY solid reads. I'm not so convinced we should be lynching Bub immediately.

Vote: danakillsu