Open 272 - Near-Vanilla (Over!)

[Magua]

Do you think Looker-town would vote Egg?

[andrew94]

looker non reader could..

[Archer]

@Bella, what did you want to demonstrate with those vote counts? You didnt actually come to any conclusions. So the only thing I can conclude from it is that you want to be seen as town since you put yourself in the 0% pro scum voting group

looker non reader could..

More like 'looker memory loss', since I pointed out Egg being the JK once before to him and he withdrew his suspicions.

[Bella]

scum can ride each others wagon you know...

Indeed.

I couldn't draw a conclusion from Bella's color-coded summary.

Interesting.

Blergh. Other stuff: Bella's vote analysis is IIoA, and seems to be missing some fairly obvious pieces of information -- eg, Egg is town, yet Looker voting Egg at the end of D2 is treated as if its any other scumread.

Egg has not flipped. Egg is almost certainly town, but his status has not been confirmed. This would obviously disqualify it from a presentation of 100% confirmed and accurate data.

@Bella, what did you want to demonstrate with those vote counts? You didnt actually come to any conclusions. So the only thing I can conclude from it is that you want to be seen as town since you put yourself in the 0% pro scum voting group.

I wanted to summarise confirmed and accurate data. The fact that my vote has been used in a manner that fails to achieve scum goals is irrelevent to the exercise.

[Bella]

Do you think Looker-town would vote Egg?

More to the point: Do you think Looker-scum would vote Egg?

[farside22]

I think people like Brokenscraps (lurking scum) and Looker (player not posting much yesterday) need to be looked into.

@Andrew: Who else do you believe is scum beside AntB and why?

[farside22]

Actually looking at Bella's end of day vote count I'm going to do this now.

vote: Brokenscraps

And get back to a full read on a few people later.

[inHimshallibe]

Official Day 3 Vote Tally

9 players remain; 5 votes needed for a lynch.

Looker (1)

- Magua

AntB (1)

- andrew94

brokenscraps (1)

- farside22

Yet to vote (6): Egg, Looker, brokenscraps, Bella, AntB, Archer

===========================================

Prodding

: Egg, brokenscraps

Deadline

: April 4, 11:59 PM GMT-6

[AntB]

@Andrew
wow. just wow.
VOTE: andrew94 <-- why is he still here?

[Magua]

Do you think Looker-town would vote Egg?

More to the point: Do you think Looker-scum would vote Egg?

Obviously, or I wouldn't be voting him.

[Bella]

Why?

[Egg]

Vote Magua

based on Bella's thing.

[Magua]

Why?

13 posts ago. Seriously?

[Bella]

That doesn't answer the question. Why do you believe Looker-scum would vote for Egg?

[Magua]

Because scum want to act antitown to avoid helping the town.

Because it means he doesn't need to lay a read on Conspiracy or Farside that he'd have to answer for.

Because he can then join whichever wagon he wants later.

Because if someone calls him on his vote, he can go, "lolz" and several people will give him a pass.

What I want to know is, why am I arguing with you about this when you wrote this:

I don't suppose there's any chance of a last minute wagon against, say, Looker on account of voting the all-but-confirmed jailkeeper, is there?

[andrew94]

@Andrew
wow. just wow.
VOTE: andrew94 <-- why is he still here?

die scum die

[farside22]

@AntB and andrew: Please for the love of God if you are actually town, reread the game and come up with who is scum besides each other.

[Bella]

Because scum want to act antitown to avoid helping the town.

Because it means he doesn't need to lay a read on Conspiracy or Farside that he'd have to answer for.

Because he can then join whichever wagon he wants later.

Because if someone calls him on his vote, he can go, "lolz" and several people will give him a pass.

And you think those benefits outweigh the negative ramifications of throwing a vote on an all-but-confirmed-town player? I don't buy that lookerscum would throw that vote down if he was paying attention to the game and voting for pro-scum reasons. I am of the opinion that teh vote tells us nothing about Looker's alignment, but everything about the level of involvement in the game. Which brings us to...

What I want to know is, why am I arguing with you about this when you wrote this:

I don't suppose there's any chance of a last minute wagon against, say, Looker on account of voting the all-but-confirmed jailkeeper, is there?

That's easy. I believed ConSpiracy was town. There appeared to be no traction for my preferred farside wagon. Looker did something stupid and was far more expendable on account of providing no benefit at all to town through non-participation and a careless lack of attention, and thus would have been a better option to die.

[AntB]

@Farside
I have and I know my scumpicks. I want something more than a one liner out of andrew. He's done NOTHING this entire game. He's promised content and fluked.

[Looker]

• Magua's vote
  • Your assertion that I was trying to find bandwagons is incorrect, as I've stated before.
  • I also play according to the knowledge that I have. If I don't know that X is scum, then why would I assert that they are?
  • Also, if you were so intrigued by my suspicions, why didn't you ask about them
    before
    the end of D2?
    Before
    the mislynch?
• Archer's point is valid: I knew that Egg was the jailkeeper.
  
• Magua's reasons
  • Scum want to look town.
  • If you'd asked me at the time, I would've given you one.
  • Third point is moot.
  • You've seen me go "lolz"...?
• Bella's point is a good one. If, at any point, my playstyle becomes too haphazard or unreliable to keep me around, I'd much prefer you replaced me than lynched me due to not being available. I like this game, but not that much, as in so much that I'd drag everyone down into a spiral of craptitude because I despise rejection.

[Magua]

I also play according to the knowledge that I have. If I don't know that X is scum, then why would I assert that they are?

Seriously?

Also, if you were so intrigued by my suspicions, why didn't you ask about them before the end of D2? Before the mislynch?

Because I wrote off your possible opinion the moment you voted Egg. But, hey, since you asked: Who do you think is scum?

[andrew94]

@looker, so are you saying you knew egg was the jk before voting him

[Bella]

• Archer's point is valid: I knew that Egg was the jailkeeper.

@looker, so are you saying you knew egg was the jk before voting him

[Looker]

• Magua
  • Yes. You sound surprised.
  • At the moment, either Bella, brokenscraps, or Archer. I also find it noteworthy you wrote off my "possible" (personal?) opinion the moment I voted Egg.
• andrew94
  • Yes.

[Archer]

This week has been too long and I'm epicly tired. Will make a proper effort on Saturday when I feel alive again.