Cold War Mafia - GAME OVER!!

[LimMePls]

I'VE ALREADY SCUM HUNTED HIM. I'VE DONE IT FOR TWO DAYS. IT ONLY CONFIRMS MY SUSPICIONS.

Forget it, this is just to obvious.

Unvote
Vote: Smargaret

This needs to happen. Also, @Vig(s): YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG. WE NEED THESE VIs FREAKING DEAD.

[Scott Brosius]

LMP is the only one making sense here. One of Furc, DP, smarg need to be lynched today. This is what happens when you don't address lies and VI play early in the game.

Vote: DP

Lying and trying to clear another player is the most scummy of the three.

[DavidParker]

No, I wouldn't really even qualify that as scummy. If that's all your case on me is (the scummy part of my play has been my lurking/lack of scum hunting) but all you seem to notice is th eobv-lies etc..

Vote: Scott

[DavidParker]

Scott def scum, LMP probable-scum.

[Scott Brosius]

Everyone who votes you is scum. Got it.

[Furcolow]

If you all want me out of the game so bad, perhaps you should read my fucking iso
I've been the only person in this god damn town trying to scumhunt

vote: Feysal

this is fucking obvious
where the fuck is his lurking scummy ass
i also will definitely hop onto smarg
DP is dumb even if he is scum so the other team can just kill him easily

[DavidParker]

Now, now, furc. No need to be mean. We are on the same team after all...

[Furcolow]

by my numbers, it is probably 7v4v3v1 or 8v4v3 if two scumteams (pretty sure now)

Furc's rolename is likely town.

Oh yea?

Furc needs to come in and explain himself, now.

Steph - GW was lurking and refusing to give input.

If the vig missed the replacement announcement, I can easily see the vig shooting to try to get rid of an unreadable player.
VOTE: Furc

This FoS of steph makes me believe smarg/stephoscope scumteam
I am also certain Feysal is scum, but you all won't wagon his lurking ass

unvote; vote: Smarg

i look to be the only person even isoing people at this point, and with half of your asses as scum, there's no surprise there when the town with me appear to be thead, lowell, dp, etc style players.... im so fucked, this town is terrible

[Sathoris]

Amrun

- 11 - VP Baltar, bvoigt,

Nachomamma8

, smargaret, Furcolow,

Debonair Danny DiPietro

, LynchMePls

Bunnylover

- 13 -

LlamaFluff

,

Amrun

,

RedCoyote

, bvoigt, smargaret, Lowell,

Nachomamma8

If there isn't scum in that group I will eat my hat. Nay, I will eat everybody's hats.

Both trains are based on 1 supposed slip and got hammered very quickly. Smarg is the on more or less the same position in both trains. Given previous interactions she's likely scum. Given our failure to lynch someone who's been lying repeatedly and given us enough reasons to lynch him, I'm going for a more realistic lynch.

VOTE: Smarg

[bvoigt]

BTW, I have no reason to believe ThAd is town, that was all baloney earlier. There was something in his post when he claimed that looked like a town tell, but I have no role-related info to him being town. However, I still feel he is probable town. Re-reading a go go!

So what was this town-tell?

Are you seriously using LaL in possible LyLo?

OK, this doesn't even make sense. I still want a gonnano lynch, but smargaret would be a good second choice.

[smargaret]

Furc, things change.

Feysal is likely town. Sathoris, you're overlooking that we found the scum in the first seven on the Amrun wagon - it was VPB.

[Sathoris]

Furc, things change.

Feysal is likely town. Sathoris, you're overlooking that we found the scum in the first seven on the Amrun wagon - it was VPB.

He started it yeah, you followed in the same quick way you did as on Bunny.

[gonnano]

I cannot believe that Amrun flipped town.
I'd say that we're almost certain to find another scum, maybe even two more, in the pool of people who lynched Amrun. I'm not trying to be opportunistic here -- I'd include myself in that group because honestly, if I had showed up in time I would have voted her too.

I think Thad and Sathoris both have good points based on bandwagon analysis, and the parts of the wagons they've looked at seem the most important to me. Just to make sure that the big picture is still being involved in this, though, here are the two lynching wagons.

Complete Bunny wagon-

LlamaFluff

,

Amrun

,

RedCoyote

, bvoigt, smargaret, Lowell,

Nachomamma8

, Stephoscope, DavidParker, Furcolow,

InflatablePie

, gonnano, EGL

Complete Amrun wagon-

VP Baltar

, bvoigt,

Nachomamma8

, smargaret, Furcolow,

Debonair Danny DiPietro

, LynchMePls, Beasts of the Sea, Stephoscope, DavidParker, EGL
... and add me because I would have voted if I had been here in time.

So people who are suspicious because of their involvement with both wagons are: bvoigt, smarg, Stephoscope, DavidParker, Furcolow, EGL, and um... me.

That's kind of a large pool of suspects, but I definitely think it's in the interest of the town to lynch within this pool today.

With that in mind, please direct your attention to pages 43 and 64, where bvoigt votes bunny and amrun, respectively, and then smarg's

very next post

after each of those is voting for the same person as bvoigt. Looks suspicious to me.

[EGL]

More DP votes please.

[Feysal]

I've been the only person in this god damn town trying to scumhunt.

In your dreams. You've not made a single case that would've made sense, you just call people scum for reasons that are dubious even by your standards. Or you call people scum with no reasoning at all.

Where the fuck is his lurking scummy ass.

If you want to know where I was for the end of the last day, I was struggling not to flake from all of my games. This is now the last one I'm alive in, so you can expect to see more of me. I'll need to do some major rereading though to get my head back into the game.

For now though, Artem and VP Baltar are at the top of the list of players needing ISO reading, since they can be mined for relations. For one thing, I remember Artem being resistant to the theory that hohum was the vigilante target last night, and he seemed intent on using that as reason to suspect the people who believed it. Now that we've had more kills using the same kill flavors as last night, I still believe that being poisoned is the Soviet mafia kill flavor, assissinated is the US and removed from bunker is the vigilante. We lost one vigilante of course, and my guess now is that there is a Soviet even-night vigilante. I don't think serial killer makes much sense in this setup, particularly if the serial killer could only kill on even nights, as seems to be the case. If true, then I am amazed by the kill choice, what with Furcolow remaining alive.

Frankly, I don't get the DavidParker case. His behavior when Amrun claimed was a major towntell for me, just because Artem said so too does not change that.

[ThAdmiral]

Can we stop spreading the votes around?

@ dp: scott is not going to be lynched today. Accept it.

Smarg today, bvoigt tomorrow - let's do this.

[Sotty7]

Day 3, vote count 2

smargaret - 4 -

ThAdmiral, LynchMePls, Furcolow, Sathoris

DavidParker - 2 -

EGL, Scott Brosius

LynchMePls - 1 -

smargaret

Furcolow - 2 -

XScorpion, Stephoscope

gonnano - 2-

bvoigt, Lowell

Scott Brosius - 1 -

DavidParker

Not voting - 4 -

gonnano, Beasts of the Sea, The Fonz, Feysal

• With
  16
  players alive, it takes
  9
  to lynch.
  
• Deadline for the end of day three is Monday April 4th @2PM CST
  
• Beasts of the Sea
  is on V/LA

[Beasts of the Sea]

Feysal is likely town. Sathoris, you're overlooking that we found the scum in the first seven on the Amrun wagon - it was VPB.

Found

the

scum in the first seven? Oversimplifying the bandwagon analysis to save yourself, I see.

No.

VOTE: smargaret

[LimMePls]

Can we stop spreading the votes around?

@ dp: scott is not going to be lynched today. Accept it.

Smarg today, bvoigt tomorrow - let's do this.

QFT

[DavidParker]

You seemed rather easily convinced to not lynch me LMP? how's that?

[Lowell]

Did sathoris really post to tell me at least one of seven people on his list is scum? why? Even after it was explained I don't get what the vote analysis was supposed to prove. Other than quasi-logic to justify bandwagonny.

fos sath

THIS is how you bandwagon.

unvote, vote smarg

[LimMePls]

You seemed rather easily convinced to not lynch me LMP? how's that?

You die next.

[Sathoris]

Did sathoris really post to tell me at least one of seven people on his list is scum? why? Even after it was explained I don't get what the vote analysis was supposed to prove. Other than quasi-logic to justify bandwagonny.

fos sath

THIS is how you bandwagon.

unvote, vote smarg

I posted it because smarg's vote was alarmingly the same as on the bunny wagon.

[The Fonz]

OK. I've dropped the note-taking entirely in favor of just freaking getting to the stage where I can start participating properly.

Vote: Furculow

Early on, he looked like he was trying. But honestly, all the lying (and the fact that he only owned up to it when he was caught in a slip) and his increasingly erratic behaviour makes me think he's deliberately trying to go all out, as VI as possible, so that people make excuses for him. I often state that when you've got a mega VI, they have to look more town than their average to make me suffer them to live. And Furc looks even worse than usual over the last thirty pages. The bottom line is that, since it doesn't look like anyone's going to put a bullet in what passes for his brain- certainly, if he's town, he's not someone scum will kill, and you woulda thunk a vig would have had a shot by now if they were going to. Which means we either have to lynch him, or have him around in LyLo. Furc in LyLo would make me shudder if he were confirmed. And he's not close to it.

Also, it's not fucking AdHom just to call you an idiot. It's good sense. It would be AdHom if someone were trying to discredit a valid argument you made because it came from you (along the lines of you're a moron, therefore it can't be true). Of course, that would require you to actually formulate a valid argument, so I'm not holding my breath.

Other things: The way ThAd framed the him vs Amrun dilemma as 'My town sounding rolename' vs 'His scum sounding rolename' I don't like. Thinking maybe Kissinger is a safeclaim, or else a less obvious scum name (actually, not that un-obvious. His name, along with Nixon and LBJ, struck me as the most likely to be American scum if there was such a group). But since we don't actually know for sure there is an American scumgroup (it's not beyond the realms of possibility that there be, say, an American SK) and because his scumhunting on Day Two i felt was much better, he's not a priority.

Gonnano... meh. He certainly looked scummy early on, but a lot of the case against him seems to be 'too defensive.' And I FUCKING HATE the too defensive argument.

DP is scummy for all the obvious reasons. RedCoyote is someone I think might be good scum. The kind who has a good, town-sounding excuse for everything he does, but doesn't give me the sense he's really trying hard to find scum. A la Benmage in Simpsons mafia.

[EGL]

Fonz, RedCoyote flipped. He was a town vig.