Mini 1135: Deadmines - DONE. PRAISE AZEROTH.

[danakillsu]

I'm town, Reckz.

Dana can definitely just be trying to float along, but seriously, it's not like he replaced into a large theme with 30 people on Day 4. He has to read what? 7 pages? I'm also intrigued by dana trying to splash more suspicion onto Bub when he's guilty of the exact same thing. Although, Bub's complete lack of reading as to how we got the Sathoris semi-town read has thrown me off.

WTF are you talking about? Did you even read my last post at all? I'M TRYING TO SHOW THAT BUB IS NOT OBVSCUM. I'm not guilty of the exact same thing at all, though. Everyone is just trying to look at my posts and say "oh, that doesn't really look like content, lolololololol". In like 1/5th of the time that Bub has had to provide content, I've given you at least twice as much to work with.

[xRECKONERx]

Explain to me what exactly you've given us to work with, dana.

[smargaret]

Kairyuu didn't visit anyone. Hence, he's likely town.

I tracked Kairyuu because I've neither read nor played with him before and thus have no sense of how to read him, and because he was my strongest scum read still living at the end of Day 1.

[Kairyuu]

My not visiting anyone means very little in terms of my alignment. I'm very confused as to why you've decided to use that as a reason to call me town. All it means is that I didn't use an ability last night. Assuming a standard 12p setup, we'd probably be looking at 3 scum total (I don't know if the extra player changes the theoretical balance by enough to add a scum) if they were confined to a single scumteam, which seems highly likely here. In that case, I could very well be a goon based on your result, or even a scum powerrole who chose not to use an ability.

The choice to track me makes sense given D1, but your conclusions are confusing.

[xRECKONERx]

I really wish we knew what a "Saboteur" did, role-wise.

[xRECKONERx]

EBWOP: And I agree with her conclusion though you're pretty obvtown anyway even without the track.

[smargaret]

Well, you didn't kill anyone and if you're a rb or something, why wouldn't you act? Why are you trying to convince me you're scum?

[Kairyuu]

Well, you didn't kill anyone and if you're a rb or something, why wouldn't you act? Why are you trying to convince me you're scum?

I'm not. I'm merely expressing confusion at your sudden switch from "scumscumscumscumscum" to "totally town" after a single track produces a non-result.

In other news, I should probably get around to posting about the page or so that I said I'd comment on after you revealed your result.

[Antihero]

Alright, I finally have some time to sit down and read this game.

VOTE: Parama don't like the rushed voting.

This vote = aweful;
Can you please be more specific in what you're referring to?

Dear everyone who's not voting dana,

Please read dana's ISO posts 2 and 3.

VOTE: danakillsu

Hm, there's not much else to look at. Guess I could try a scumspectrum?

[Town]
Sathoris
Kairyuu
xRECKONERx
Parama
Starbuck
smargaret
[Null]
Maemuki
Bub Bidderskins
ender241
danakillsu
[Scum]

For Town, the order doesn't matter so much. For Null-Scum, it does.

[xRECKONERx]

^ Townposting.

[Starbuck]

smargaret

1. Why would scum clear two townies?

Better question, why wouldn't they? Wouldn't they want to gain credibility?

Kairyuu didn't visit anyone. Hence, he's likely town.

How so?

I tracked Kairyuu because I've neither read nor played with him before and thus have no sense of how to read him, and because he was my strongest scum read still living at the end of Day 1.

You've never read or playing with him and have no sense on how to read him, but he was your strongest scum read? How does this work?

I don't get how you can switch so quickly from "ZOMGSCUM" to "OHHAITOWN".

Reck

@Starbuck: What bothers me is that you seem to just immediately believe the one-shot cop claim over the one-shot tracker claim, whereas I saw no difference in HOW they both claimed. There very well be a role out there that can give out two abilities per night, or there may be a mechanic (like a loot/drop system when a scum dies?) that automatically "rolls" for one-shot abilities. /speculation

In either case, I don't like how Starbuck arbitrarily distinguished between one claim and the other with no real reason to do so. Still liking my vote on dana, though, because he has yet to do anything to assuage my suspicions/disdain for his posts.

All she did was claim that she tracked Kai, but not her result, as he states here...

@smargaret: Claim your result please. I'd like to hear that before I make any more comments.

Parama came right out and said one-shot cop and that Sathoris isn't Defias.

She finally tells us and she thinks he's town because he didn't visit anyone, not because of a read. She's backtracking hardcore and I'm not liking it much.

Dana

WTF are you talking about? Did you even read my last post at all? I'M TRYING TO SHOW THAT BUB IS NOT OBVSCUM. I'm not guilty of the exact same thing at all, though. Everyone is just trying to look at my posts and say "oh, that doesn't really look like content, lolololololol". In like 1/5th of the time that Bub has had to provide content, I've given you at least twice as much to work with.

How about just a general catch up post and some opinion on things other than Bub?

I find you both at the same level with lack of content.

And now that I read that over, you were real quick to come to his defense. I do disagree with the fact that you think that you aren't guilty of the exact same thing. It's a tad bit hypocritical, dontcha think?

Unvote
Vote: danakillsu

FOS: smargaret

[Maemuki]

I don't really know why I'm scum, but whatever, Anti. Aside from that, I love these spectrums since it makes it harder to backtrack.

Dana, if you please would try to do something other than diverting our attention to Bub, it would be highly appreciated. I'm getting more and more willing to lynch you, but I want some other information first.

[danakillsu]

Explain to me what exactly you've given us to work with, dana.

More than your one- or two-liners, which has been the majority of your posts today.

I don't really know why I'm scum, but whatever, Anti. Aside from that, I love these spectrums since it makes it harder to backtrack.

Dana, if you please would try to do something other than diverting our attention to Bub, it would be highly appreciated. I'm getting more and more willing to lynch you, but I want some other information first.

Quit being retarded and listen to what I'm saying. I don't want your attention on Bub, I want it AWAY from Bub.

How about just a general catch up post and some opinion on things other than Bub?

Catchup to what, exactly? Today has been a bunch of people ignoring what I'm actually saying and wanting to vote me for no apparent reason. Yesterday was a quicklynch of scum.

[Antihero]

Personally, my problem with dana was that post 148 reads as a crappy soft attack on Kairyuu. Now that people are coming out with kind of crappy "OMG moar kontent, plz" generalizations and these bizarre accusations about Bub, I have a few qualms about my vote.

I don't really know why I'm scum, but whatever, Anti. Aside from that, I love these spectrums since it makes it harder to backtrack.

Dana, if you please would try to do something other than diverting our attention to Bub, it would be highly appreciated. I'm getting more and more willing to lynch you, but I want some other information first.

Did I say you were scum? No, I didn't. You're a solid null. Would you like to debate me as to why you deserve that read?

The misrep of dana plus the hemming and hawing on a vote plus the lack of meaningful commentary on anyone besides dana

is

getting you off to a good start on a scumread.

[xRECKONERx]

She finally tells us and she thinks he's town because he didn't visit anyone, not because of a read. She's backtracking hardcore and I'm not liking it much.

Still not seeing how she backtracked.

Explain to me what exactly you've given us to work with, dana.

More than your one- or two-liners, which has been the majority of your posts today.

THIS STILL ISN'T CONTENT. OR AN ANSWER. YOU IRRITATING DUNCE.
YOU have the burden of proof here, because so far I've seen NOBODY agree with you that you're giving us real content.

[inHimshallibe]

Official Day 2 Vote Tally

11 players remain; 6 votes needed for a lynch.

Bubbiddrskns (3)

- Kairyuu, Smargaret, Parama

Danakillsu (3)

- Xreckonerx, Antihero, Starbuck

Parama (1)

- Endertwofour

Yet to vote (4): Danakillsu, Maemuki, Bubbiddrskns, Sathoris

[xRECKONERx]

Also re: the "one or two liners" comment made by dana:

The only difference there is that my one or two liners at least give reads/opinions/questions/answers, whereas yours are just useless words and syntax.

[Antihero]

ender, I know you're posting in other games...

Yet to vote (4):

Danakillsu, Maemuki, Bubbiddrskns

, Sathoris

Null-scum list in

bold

.

Oh look, I only had to use 1 tag.

[Antihero]

The similarity in color schemes between my avatar and reck's makes my eyes hurt. >_<

[xRECKONERx]

FIXED

[Parama]

YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE AVATAR, RECK. THE FATES WILL KILL YOU.

[xRECKONERx]

IT'S TOO LATE

[Kairyuu]

WoW is distracting, and tanking Deadmines without heirlooms while all of the dps HAVE heirlooms is annoying as fuck. I have food arriving shortly, and will be rereading/posting once I've eaten it.

[xRECKONERx]

At least you're in the spirit of the flavor.

[smargaret]

Starbuck: There is a difference between "my strongest scumread" and "a strong scumread". I've stated before that Day 1 was too short to build any really concrete reads. I went with what I had.

Also, I openly said that I was leaving it up to Kairyuu whether I revealed my result or not. I don't like to reveal things about others' roles without their permission, and as soon as he said it was okay, I revealed the result. You're blowing things out of proportion and stretching to get a case on me, and then you don't even vote me? Instead you wagon someone for active lurking?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Starbuck