Execution Mafia GAMEOVER!

[Amrun]

If you're not going to bother playing or putting in effort, why sign up, SO?

[Ant_to_the_max]

Says who?

[Ant_to_the_max]

Edit: that was at SO

[Umbrage]

STRUNGOVER, WHY DO YOU WANT FF OR AMRUN DEAD? SAY WHY. THAT'S ALL YOU NEED TO DO TO BECOME A USEFUL TOWNIE INSTEAD OF THE WASTE OF A SLOT YOU CURRENTLY ARE.

[StrungOver]

I have stated why many times, and then was called anti-town for it. How much more info are you actually expecting to get with out a flip!?!?

[Ant_to_the_max]

Answers to my concerns would be nice

[Final Fires]

Sorry guys, this has been a busy week. I'll try to post something longer tommorow. However, this caught my eye:

NO. YOU LOT LOST THE PRIVILEGE OF ME BEING CIVIL. I TRIED POSTING NORMALLY. NOW YOU GET THE CAPS.

Amrun (1): Umbrage,
Final Fires (4): Setael, Amrun, Ant_to_the_max, Twistedspoon
Haschel (2): charter, Tragedy
Charter (1): Haschel

...Then how did it come to Amrun like this?

This chart does not make any logical sense.

THE ONLY CONCLUSION FROM THIS IS THAT PEOPLE ARE LYING ABOUT VOTING FOR AMRUN. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIE ARE SCUM. I DID NOT LIE. ERGO I AM NOT SCUM.

STRUNGOVER IS LURKING, SHEEPING SCUM. I DON'T DENY THAT. BUT REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE TRIED KILLING LURKING, SHEEPING SCUM? WE KILLED A TOWNIE AND A COP. I ADMIT I SCREWED UP WITH SV AND VEZOK, BUT YOU GUYS MAKING THE EXACT SAME MISTAKE ISN'T GOING TO GET US ANYWHERE.

The vote count Umbrage chose to show everyone was an early one; before my vote had been counted. I publically acknowledged that I voted for Amrun. So under his logic, that clears me as town. But then he also wants to NK me? Inconsistant. Umbrage, why does publically admitting that you voted for Amrun clear you as town, but it doesn't clear me?

[Setael]

Can someone tell me what post 1253 says? I'm not going to read it.

[Amrun]

Umbrage wants SO to explain his reads.

[Ant_to_the_max]

Happy birthday Amrun!

[Umbrage]

Can someone tell me what post 1253 says? I'm not going to read it.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY YOU ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED WITH THE NK, AND WHY I THINK YOU ARE SCUM.

@ FINAL FIRES: I'VE DECIDED THAT MY LOGIC APPLIES TO ME, BUT NOT TO YOU FOR SOME REASON. SOUND FAMILIAR?

[Amrun]

It's my 21st birthday, and the fun starts now, so I'll be very scarce this weekend.

Will stop in, post if necessary. Just a fair warning.

[Twistedspoon]

Happy birthday Amrun =D

[Setael]

I'll need someone to tell me what 1260 says as well (if it's important).

[Twistedspoon]

just read it set; the rest of us have to :/

[Setael]

Nope. You can lynch me before I read another post that is in full caps.

[Umbrage]

Nope. You can lynch me before I read another post that is in full caps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp0I9qLE0VA

[charter]

I was going to make a giant witty post about killing Umbrage to end his annoyance and rid of us a scum, and killing two birds with one stone.. but you get it.

[Setael]

We need to agree on who we're going to vote as night executioner. Then Exe can kill someone once it's decided and whatnot.

Is anyone not in agreement with a no lynch tonight?

vote for night executioner: FF

[Setael]

V/LA until Monday

[Amrun]

I'm good with FF for the night kill, as usual.

[Ant_to_the_max]

I support that plan

[Umbrage]

YOU'RE DOING THAT JUST TO PISS ME OFF, AREN'T YOU? FINE. GIVE THE NIGHTKILL TO SCUM. HONESTLY, IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE AT THIS POINT I DON'T TRUST ANY OF YOU NOT TO FUCK IT ALL UP. SCUM WILL LIKELY BE MORE CAUTIOUS, AND DO WHAT THE TOWN WANTS. SO YEAH, GIVING THE NIGHTKILL TO SCUM MIGHT BE THE BEST PLAY AT THIS POINT.

IF WE END UP LOSING THIS GAME TO AMRUN-SCUM I AM CREATING A PETITION TO RESTRICT EVERYONE BUT SETAEL TO NEWBIE GAMES FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

OH AND SPEAKING OF SETAEL:

@ Setael: What makes you so sure I'm town?

I had the same reaction to exe's gambit as Umbrage did. I totally bought it and was pissed exe hadn't given TS a chance to claim.

To vote umbrage for calling for exe's death after the fake day vig, you are assuming that exe is definitely town and that scum umbrage, knowing exe's alignment, tried to use his day kill as a way to get him lynched. It's just crap logic. First, in assuming exe is definitely town which if you're a townie you don't know that for sure and second, to think that scum would really think it a good move to call for the death of a protown vig (I can't see scum ever thinking this is a good idea, especially when that vig is going to flip town, guaranteeing major suspicion from the town. Scum are more careful than that.) It looks a LOT more like a townie who, not knowing TS's alignment, was pissed about such a stupid, senseless day kill.

I also am offended that Umbrage is saying she's the ONLY one scum hunting and the only one around who isn't an idiot. Everyone is perfectly justified in being annoyed by being lumped into that generalization. However, that doesn't make her scum. Some of you are probably scum taking advantage of her antagonistic playstyle, but others of you are town and you need to look beyond how obnoxious she's being and think. Would scum really make the post she made after the mock day kill?... My answer ... is hells no.

I feel very good about this execution. Townies don't defend other townies like Umbrage defended SO. The way Umbrage reacted to exe's fake daykill has very little to do with my vote against him.

Sure they do, all the time. Especially when your top scum reads jump on the wagon as opportunistically as SV and vezok did. She may have gone overboard (especially with the getting personal) but she never looked scummy to me.

You know who DOESN'T ever defend that blatantly? Scum buddies, especially this early in the game. If umbrage and SO are both scum, I'll eat my shorts.

I don't KNOW her alignment, but I have a lot of reasons to think she's town. The latest of which is her "catch" which she wouldn't have done if she were about to flip scum (since then it's no longer a catch since how could I KNOW she's town if she's actually scum....If she's scum it'd make a lot more sense for her to wait and see if my post derailed her wagon, rather than undermining me and almost certainly negatively affecting my post's effect. I can see your point though that I shouldn't be so certain she's town when I really don't know. Suspect me for it if you want, I'm just that confident. I'll sure have pie on my face if I'm wrong, but again I have a lot of really solid reasons to think she's town so I'm good with my read.

Looking back, it's not enough to gamble with me being the night kill if you flip scum - that wasn't a good idea. I just think I'm right. My hat will be off to you if you're scum, because all the above makes you really read town.

I have become progressively less sure of my umbrage read. I still prefer an SV execution, but Umbrag is closer to neutral on my scum scale.

SO WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THESE POSTS?

I'LL TELL YOU.

WE AGREED TO KILL SV. SETAEL HAD PUSHED FOR THE VOTE BETWEEN MYSELF AND SV. SETAEL KNEW SV WOULD FLIP TOWN SO HE HAD TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM ME, WHO WAS THE LEADER OF THE SV BANDWAGON, IN ORDER TO KEEP HIS NOSE NICE AND CLEAN.

THE SECOND QUOTE IS TWO POSTS AWAY FROM WHEN AMRUN ENDED THE DAY. LOOKS LIKE SETAEL WROTE THAT JUST IN TIME. COINCIDENCE?

SETAEL SAID WE COULD KILL HIM IF AMRUN FLIPPED TOWN. AT THAT POINT IT LOOKED LIKE AMRUN'S DEATH WAS CERTAIN. I HAVE NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER HEARD A TOWNIE SAY THAT HE COULD BE LYNCHED IF HIS READS WERE WRONG. ONLY A COP COULD BE THAT SURE OF THEMSELVES, AND OUR COP IS DEAD.

HE IS SURE AMRUN WILL FLIP SCUM BECAUSE HE IS HER PARTNER. THEY WERE GETTING READY TO SET ME UP FOR TODAY'S LYNCH, BUT AMRUN FUCKED UP AND SETAEL HAD TO BUS HER. LUCKILY FINAL FIRES CAME IN WITH HIS WAGON ON SO AND GOT AMRUN OFF THE HOOK.

NOW SETAEL IS SAYING TO KILL EITHER ME OR AMRUN. HE DOESN'T WANT TO KILL SO, BECAUSE KILLING SO WILL MEAN I GAIN TOWNCRED, AND HE CAN'T TAKE THAT CHANCE.

I AM ONLY GOING TO SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME:

IF YOU KILL SO, AND HE FLIPS TOWN, YOU WILL ALL VOTE ME AS NIGHT EXECUTIONER. NO BUTS. NO I DON'T LIKE UMBRAGES. NO NOBODY TELLS ME WHAT TO DOS. SWALLOW YOUR PRIDE, AND VOTE ME. PLAY TO YOUR WIN CONDITION. WHINING CAN COME LATER.

THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE MOST OBJECTIVE, UNBIASED, PRO-TOWN MEMBER IN THE GAME. THANK YOU.

[Tragedy]

"SETAEL KNEW SV WOULD FLIP TOWN"

A suspicious fact is suspicious.

I'm still fine enough for me being NK Executioner, but most people would obviously disagree.

[Amrun]

Umbrage, STOP with the caps.

Control yourself.

Stop acting like a five year old.

It has to be so much MORE of a pain in the ass to type in caps and NO good comes out of it.

If you want your points to be heard and addressed, QUIT.