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>post Pine case
>still no comments from anyone else, or Pine
>sad
DIDDIN, GET BACK ON PINE
I like this post. Speaking of defending, I'm also becoming increasingly suspicious of Hiraki, even though I'm pseudo-defending Friend as well for trying to get a wagon on Pine. Difference is, I have a nullread on Friend (with Fugi having a scumread).Friend wrote:Pine's scum. Don't trust the people defending me - they know how I'm gonna flip. Easy town cred when I do.
Concerning Friend's other reads, I haven't seen anything scummy from Confid, but he's one of the players that hasn't been in the spotlight much so I haven't been paying much attention to him. Calcifer... not sure how to feel. I don't think scum would call someone "confirmed town" based off of what seems to be just D1-gut-reasoning. Too risky to do as scum, but that's WIFOM, so I'm null leaning town for now. His play of defending Pine is also similar to that of Hiraki defending Friend, no? That kinda mixes up my reads on both of them.
Gut-wise, I'm leaning towards Hiraki-scum and Calcifer-town.
Obviously I have no comment on his scumread of me/us (the only thing I can really say being 'hurr you're wrong'). Reasoning forallyour reads would be nice, Friend.
And y'know what, fuck you Fugi. We're gonna lynch a scumread of mine today.
Unvote, Vote: Pine
I'll only move our vote back if we need to hammer to end the day, or something similar to that scenario.
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UNVOTE: Pine
VOTE: Friend
Stop it, you manwhore.
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Unvote
Vote: Pine
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Well, I posted most of my scumreads. I forgot about TwoHeadedBoy claiming that c-worl was waiting to see if the Pine wagon grew, and then himself waited to see if the Pine wagon grew (near the beginning of the game). There has not been too much scummy from this slot since then, so I forgot about this.Pine wrote:nhammen, what reads do you have so far, aside form those mentioned? Fresh perspective would be nice.
Unfortunately all of my town reads keep doing things that seem a bit scummy (Calcifer, Pine), knocking them from being town reads any more...
Except for GreyIce/IceyCupcake, who I have as solid town.
And silver is mostly Town, because I can't see this sort of tunneling coming from scum.
I guess that TwoHeaded's tunneling on Pine could be seen similarly. But his waiting to do so near the beginning changes my view a little bit.
I had c-worl as newb-town, but I'm not sure it isn't newbscum, after seeing how much of a super-sheep he has been.
That's all I can remember right now, without going over the player list.
Did you not read my post? I shall quote the relevant statement again:Hiraki wrote:Also, nhanen voting Friend after finding a Calc contradiction is mucho disturbio.
Meaning, he has lost the townie points that I gave him, but it isn't enough to push him into being scummy yet.nhammen wrote:there are a few contradictions, but it is not necessarily scummy at this point.
@THB 523: Wow, that is what I am now going to name a tunneling wall. I agree with a few of the points in this wall, but if you are trying to find something scummy in every single post someone makes, then it is just tin-foil hat paranoia speaking. That is such bad tunneling, it's not even funny. Actually, this tunneling has me convinced on THB town, similarly to silver.-
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That's not scumhunting. At all.diddin wrote:
Here's one.Friend wrote:
OMGUS doesn't have to be based on votes, only, you know...Pine wrote:What OMGUS? I don't know that you ever voted for me, and you certainly weren't just there. I'm voting for you because of the elaborate and well-established case against you. I just wanted to use the extra time granted to us to hunt your scumbuddies, like Parama. But sure, if you insist on falling on your sword sooner rather than later, fine.
And silver, you can look through my posts. It's there. It'll be like a little game!!
That isn't either.diddin wrote:
And another.Friend wrote:
Isn't that exactly what you're trying to do with this post?Pine wrote:Friend & Empking = scumbuddies?
Smacks of desperately looking for someone to deflect attention onto.
Not really, but ok. Besides, your words were that he had spent "the past few pages pressing Pine."diddin wrote: 10, 9, and 8 are scumhunting in a way, just not against Pine.
That said, it looks like Friend has just about given up, sadly. His lynch seems inevitable, but I'd like to hear some last thoughts before he is lynched.
He didn't.
Nice try on derailing the wagon however.
^This.Pine wrote:That was...schitzophrenically entertaining.
Also, for you future hydra-ers - that is why someone invented QuickTopic.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Hikari is scum, he's ignored our reasons for why Friend=scum completely. Everytime he's asked he claims there isn't a case on Friend even though we've quoted thousands of cases for him.
BTW: THB, you made me laugh so hard, both of you. Thx 4 teh lulz.Show... Even when C-worl is providing no content, C-worl is providing no content. Feat considered impressive. ...
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Well, Pie and I have talked it over in IRC (It's like QT on speed, AGar, so stop complaining). I'm basically siding with nhammen that he's nitpicking too much and pointed out that the vast majority of Pine's text is very progressive and town-like. He still disagrees based off the tells in his wall. We didn't exactly come to an agreement though, as he's still convinced of Pine scum and neutral Friend while I'm convinced of Pine town and scum Friend. Pie, however, just left to go to a party because of his lolsociallife which means I have control of the account for a few hours to the rest of the night.
UNVOTE: Pine
VOTE: Friend
Take that.
Also, Hiraki looks pretty bad, but I'm reluctant to call him scum because I've never been able to read him right. I know, meta iz st00p3d and stuff, but I'm keeping an eye on him.
C-Worl's posting has been off recently too, especially his reactions to Friend's wagon.
andC-Worl wrote:So we're either lynching scum or we're getting rid of an unneeded role anyway.
Don't get me wrong, being VT sucks.
particularly this one, are what I'm talking about. I mentioned it last night but I want to quote them tonight for emphasis. Keeping an eye on him for now.C-Worl wrote:Why should I get lynched? I haven't done anything wrong (that I know of)
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EBWOP: Just thought I'd let you guys know why I'm fighting Pie so hard on this:
Friend wrote:Too lazy.
ConfidAnon is probscum. THB is too. Calcifer is iffy.silverbullet999 wrote:So from rank for you it'd be
1. Pine
2. Confid / THB
3. Calc
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From my experience this kind of apathy in this situation is a scum-tell. He seems to know his reads won't be taken seriously after his flip. That's the main reason I care to replace my vote on Friend and want to see him lynched.Friend wrote:Sure.ShowIIII LOOOOOVE YOOOUUU JESUUUUUUUS CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIST
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Welp. We have four days left. I may or may not be gone all of tomorrow due to a band trip. I will reluctantly drop the hammer on Friend if there are no objections.ShowTown 8/4
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Exactly.Pine wrote:
So, in other words, your adamant defense of Friend has no basis beyond your say-so. And yet you're vilifying Calcifer on almost exactly those grounds?Hiraki wrote:
My mistake. Meant Cookie/Anti.C-Worl wrote:Why should Fugitive? You're not making any sense Hikaru. Also, stop ignoring Pine's questions. Why are you claiming Friend to be towny, if you don't give your reason eventually someone will hammer him.
Because no one has made a valid case up, I'm going to assume there is no good case.
So, what you are saying is that you would like people to vote for Calcifer, and have a case ready, but haven't provided that case yet. Why haven't you provided such a case? I don't see any reason that a town player would not give a case if they had one.Hiraki wrote:I could make a case on Calc. If you want me to.
Doesn't anybody else see how scummy this slot is?Jerbs wrote:I think pine is scum, but lets follow what Calc said.
Oh, yes! Well, it's diddin, but at least it is someone.
He's been doing what? Where has this been?diddin wrote:He's certainly been attacking Pine quite a bit the last few pages. You call that not scumhunting?
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So Hiraki, are we clear on this? You're going to continue defending Friend simply by dismissing the volumes of evidence, and deflecting onto anyone who pursues how odd that is?
By my clock, 12 hours and 49 minutes to the deadline set forth in P561. And when Friend flips scum, that'll move you to the top of the list."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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...TwoHeadedBoy wrote:
IT'S DAY ONE YOU DOUCHE CANOEIceyCupcake wrote:
I DON'T WANNA LYNCH PINE. CALCIFER HAS UNVERIFIED POTENTIALLY PR RELATED INFORMATION ON HIM.TwoHeadedBoy wrote:I WANT THOUGHTS ON MY PINE CASE
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Here's 1 case Hiraki.TwoHeadedBoy wrote:Caught up now. (For the most part, a few of the walls I just skimmed).
UNVOTE: Pine
You're being an idiot, IPie. I will detail to you why later, but Pine is town.
VOTE: Friend
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2874616
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p2874669
No sense in clogging the thread by restating what's been said, I'll just say that those cases sum up my feeling on Friend pretty nicely with very little difference in opinion and have ultimately the same conclusion as my own.
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I TOLD YOU I'D START POSTING.THB wrote:P.S. - I dunno if this is even technically a hydra since Fugi's made like one post. :U
Oh look another case.TwoHeadedBoy wrote:EBWOP: Just thought I'd let you guys know why I'm fighting Pie so hard on this:
Friend wrote:Too lazy.
ConfidAnon is probscum. THB is too. Calcifer is iffy.silverbullet999 wrote:So from rank for you it'd be
1. Pine
2. Confid / THB
3. Calc
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From my experience this kind of apathy in this situation is a scum-tell. He seems to know his reads won't be taken seriously after his flip. That's the main reason I care to replace my vote on Friend and want to see him lynched.Friend wrote:Sure.
We have people coming out the wood work calling Friend out on deflection, hypocricy, and scumplaining. Friend himself has told us several times to go ahead and lynch him which is scumfrustration. Don't ignore the cases.Show... Even when C-worl is providing no content, C-worl is providing no content. Feat considered impressive. ...
Pleasedont reiterate things I've already said. I know the things I already said. In fact, I'm the one that said them
I'm sure that makes sense in some way I'm not seeing.... but I'm not seeing how that makes any sense.-
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Only way to find out is to lynch you.Show... Even when C-worl is providing no content, C-worl is providing no content. Feat considered impressive. ...
Pleasedont reiterate things I've already said. I know the things I already said. In fact, I'm the one that said them
I'm sure that makes sense in some way I'm not seeing.... but I'm not seeing how that makes any sense.-
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Which I slightly regret.TwoHeadedBoy - Fugi wrote:Pie, however, just left to go to a party because of his lolsociallife
That said, I feel too much like shit to start up another vote-change-war (even though you're asleep) and I'll concede for now. Friend wants the rope, he'll get the rope. Not a loss from this head's POV. And IguessFugi has a point concerning apathy.
We lynch Pine tomorrow, regardless of any flips.
FUCK YOU, ZOMBIEGreyICE wrote:
...TwoHeadedBoy wrote:
IT'S DAY ONE YOU DOUCHE CANOEIceyCupcake wrote:
I DON'T WANNA LYNCH PINE. CALCIFER HAS UNVERIFIED POTENTIALLY PR RELATED INFORMATION ON HIM.TwoHeadedBoy wrote:I WANT THOUGHTS ON MY PINE CASE
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