Mini 1138 - Candy Zoo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Zyrconium]

But now everyone knows what I know.

which is bad how?

for some reason i felt I hard already heard the phrase 'evil people are after your goodies'
It seemed familiar from somewhere in the topic.

Besides, how does that information help mafia? They probably already knew that they should take goodies from candy animals

I'm guessing the role PM of candy animal says that bad guys will try to steal your goodies?

If so, then I'm an exception

You're actually the only person to have stated it, but this is what you remember, and I beleive it was 70 posts or so after Amrun first stated he had info that suggested(and it is a suggestion, one explicitly made by the mod, but not guaranteed by the same) TS is scum. (I checked for bullshit a bit ago, but found sadly none )

[Amrun]

Hoppster: that's what I meant. It doesn't say that so I don't think it's true.

TS: the only person who has said "scum wants to steal from candy animals and candy animals have goodies" is actually you. You are the only person who knows what scum knows.

Because you're scum.

[Zyrconium]

Well, so do you Amrun.... :p

[Amrun]

No, I don't.

I know scum wants the goodies I have because my role says so, but I didn't say anything about candy animals.

Plus, TS's supposed role pm didn't say anything like that, so how would he know?

[Hazard with a Glove]

F*** it.

Either me, TS, or Amrun will get night killed, and if we do, AVENGE US, DAMNIT!

TS's role claim is my role. Thar.

...Or did I already say this? I've been having some trouble in-between my games...

[mb53]

No, I don't think that you did say it earlier. I did guess that however, which is why I backed off of TS.

[Nobody Special]

So, I've been reading early in the thread.

What do we do with the items we have? Can we donate them? Maybe if some one gets them all we win:D.

WOAH

what do you mean by 'if someone gets them'

Is it even possible to transfer items?

what reasons do you have for thinking this? I hope this isn't role-fishing vezok from execution mafia again.

I guess you would know, since you've now offered (so very generously ) to take Amrun's items.

My name is Nobody Special, and I subscribe to the policy of Lynch All Liars.

Vote: twistedspoon

[Hazard with a Glove]

So, I've been reading early in the thread.

What do we do with the items we have? Can we donate them? Maybe if some one gets them all we win:D.

WOAH

what do you mean by 'if someone gets them'

Is it even possible to transfer items?

what reasons do you have for thinking this? I hope this isn't role-fishing vezok from execution mafia again.

I guess you would know, since you've now offered (so very generously ) to take Amrun's items.

My name is Nobody Special, and I subscribe to the policy of Lynch All Liars.

Vote: twistedspoon

HOLY CRAP.

That little [censored].

Vote:TwistedSpoon

[Zyrconium]

@hazard: what is your current hypothesis on why TS knows your role PM word for word?

@NS: Is that the only "inconsistency" you've found with pasts statements and current facts?

I'll keep my vote at the ready 'til TS responds...

[Hazard with a Glove]

The only thing I can think of is a little improve and that Mafia can take items too.

[Amrun]

How close is the role to yours, hazard?

Like the wording?

[Charlie]

Vote count 7

Twistedspoon (3) - Amrun, Nobody Special, Hazard with a Glove
mb53 (2) - Hoppster, Kalofer
Zyrconium (2) - Stels, mb53
Kalofer (1) - crazypianist1116
ToastyToast (1) - Twistedspoon

Not voting: Morthas, Zyrconium, vezokpiraka, ToastyToast
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Wednesday, 30th March at 1030 hours (GMT-5)

[Hazard with a Glove]

Other than the "Game thread is here" and "Reply to this PM to confirm" it's pretty spot on.

[ToastyToast]

Why do you think vezok is scum?

Its more than just this reason, but he's been on my scumlist for a while. I hope to give a full case soon, but I've been busy with school this week. But, just look at page 17. A post that says: WE NEED TO LYNCH TS! Followed by an unvote after I point out how scummy that sounds. How does someone change there mind that fast? Add this to his early-game fishing....I can definately see Zyrconium-Vezok scum buddies.

That page is the main thing that set me off, but I'll compile a more complete list too.

[ToastyToast]

Actually, scratch that. Vezok's second post was before I pointed it out, but the sudden shift is very suspicious.

[Amrun]

Of course I see toasty's point, but after playing with vezok before, I can say that vezok is probably town by meta.

Those things are still scummy but I want to wait it out and see. I have a town read on vezok right now.

[crazypianist1116]

Next, don't lynch TS. Just don't, it WILL be a mislynch.

Hazard, explain. I smell bus.

[crazypianist1116]

So yeah you don't throw around bolded "I know what's going to happen's" out there without any explanation unless you're informed.
Hazard was either trying to prevent twisted's lynch as he was scum team or trying to gain town cred when he kills twisted tonight. I'm inclined to believe the former as my TS read flipped town because of Hazard's bold. Hazard's blatently contradicted himself.

Unvote Vote: Hazard with a Glove

When he flips scum let's lynch TS mmmkay?

[vezokpiraka]

I still think TS is town.

Also I smell shenenigans.
I have something nearly identical to amrun's line but it's different. I am starting to think amrun is scum

[Morthas]

Ok, officially back from V/LA
Let's start with reads:
Amrun, Vezopiraka and TS are town

And I found a way to break the game open.
Do evil people want to know your goodies? Y/N
Just answer and say nothing more. Everyone has to do this.

How did she know ''evil'' was in the candy animal pm when nobody mentioned it before nor the mod's pm hint at it in any way?
Simple, she is a VT (but of course there is a possibility that scum may have had some sort of indicator about it in their pm but ill take my chances)
2nd Amrun

Of course I hope not to kill a townie, twisted.
But if you are a townie, then my role PM can't be trusted in its wording.
The wording is strong enough that I will push your lynch until you are dead or I am proven wrong.

I re read and i did not notice anyone else hinting anything about ''evil'' and now that the beans we're spilled there is no use in hiding it
He is town

F*** it.
Either me, TS, or Amrun will get night killed, and if we do, AVENGE US, DAMNIT!
TS's role claim is my role. Thar.
...Or did I already say this? I've been having some trouble in-between my games...

So you're saying that TS did not guess your PM but it's legit?
and 2 posts later you notice Nobody Special finding a contradiction and immedietly you go

HOLY CRAP.
That little [censored].
Vote:TwistedSpoon

I honestly think you are just trying to blend in and finding a legitimately looking bandwagon to jump on, ah you could also add the accusation of him lurking a bit too much
VOTE: Hazard
P: Edit: I have a town read on TS now that Hazard confirmed it by 1) Legitimately Claiming 2) Scum who knows TS wasn't lieing and trying to get town cred and safety by claiming to be a PR
P-Edit: Just noticed that i got Vezo's and Amrun's genders wrong but im going to leave them that way just to piss them off ;D

[Twistedspoon]

I lied to protect my PR status

so what?

[Twistedspoon]

this is why the zoo visitor role shouldn't be auto-scum

It's not the zoo visitor bit, it's the taking goodies bit that concerns me.

:/

It concerned me too, but I can't argue with the role I've been given

[Amrun]

Why would it concern you, TS?

[ToastyToast]

@TS: because some people, like me, believe in "lynch all liars" policy.

@Amrun: I'm willing to believe your town-read on vezok, but...

@Vezok: Can you link a game so I can see if this meta is correct?

Votes on Hazard seems like people trying to choose an easy lynch.

[Kalofer]

Ok I guess the role PM does make sense and now I have less of an objection to lynching TS (other than that I still think he's town). Lynch him if you want but I want no part in it. I still think we should go for the mb lynch for his many inconsistencies. Evil people may be italicised to emphasise that it is evil people, and TS may not fall in that category. I'd like to know how day 2 is going to start if TS flips town, another townie is killed and amrun is still alive.

So basically your attitude is "Ok, lynch him. I think he's town but I'm not going to stop you"?

I already told you why I don't think you should lynch him and now that I see amrun's (and therefore everyone who supported amrun's case) point of view I guess through your interpretation maybe he does deserve a lynch, or at the very least because he posts just for the sake of it. Either way I guess at least now that amrun claimed even if TS is lynched the worst possible scenario is averted/mitigated so I can sleep a bit better at night. Ideally I'd like an MB or hazard lynch. The game is unfortunately at a stalemate state and this isn't helping at all but unless the hazard wagon gets enough support I won't change my vote unless something drastic happens, g'night.
HAPPY DAY AFTER YOUR BIRTHDAY AMRUN WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!