Open 293 - Donner Party Mafia, Take Two (Game Over)

[Twistedspoon]

defending :/

I'm cool with your vote, i'm not trying to persuade you to take it off of him. I see the case against andrew, but I'm trying not to tunnel too and see bith sides of the picture, and also how daytalk affects us.

Trust me, I'm waiting for another few posts from him so I can vote with more confidence and without being accused of BW

[DeathRowKitty]

When you say you see the case against andrew, what are you referring to?

[Twistedspoon]

When you say you see the case against andrew, what are you referring to?

the arguments of those who have voted him thus far and also his history and ISO (although that's quite short at the moment).
I haven't actually read any of his past games you provided me with, I must admit. I'm just taking your word for it regarding his completed games since you've provided the evidence and that can't be argued with. I'm just too lazy to read it right now :s

[DeathRowKitty]

Well, the crux of what's been said against him is that his play this game matches with his scum history (in fact, I'm pretty sure the only other thing brought up was this). Without having read past games, to say you see the case against him is rather foolish, I would think.

[Twistedspoon]

:/

fine, I've read them now

[DeathRowKitty]

Uhhh....it's been 4 minutes since you said you didn't. How fast do you read?

[Twistedspoon]

fast enough

[DeathRowKitty]

Okay, now, anyone that disagreed with using meta this early:

Does andrew-scum make more sense if Twistedspoon is his buddy?

[Friend]

@Friend

I can't tell, is this sarcasm? If not, who do you expect to be scum?

No, not sarcasm. I think DH is likely scum. Same with twistedspoon.

I'm kind of flopping on DH and twisted but twisted has been worse recently so:

UNVOTE: DemonHybrid
VOTE: Twistedspoon

I don't think andrew is scum. I have a gut scum read on DRK but I can't really put it into words or give concrete reasons - maybe if I look back over it it'll come together.

[tclawren]

Interesting stuff about Andrew. There is a distinct difference when he plays as scum then when he plays as town. I think right now that he is the best lead, as I see Lane as a townie and I have a gut read of town on Twisted based off prior experience. The cases on Demonhybrid are not nearly persuasive enough to get my vote. And as for Lane vote on MoI...not even close to getting my vote. And I will switch my vote from Shotty because he will answer soon and the pressure that was on him has now dissipated.

UNVOTE: Shotty

VOTE: Andrew

[andrew94]

excuse me
what distinct difference fool?

[DeathRowKitty]

I don't think andrew is scum.

What do you think of Twistedspoon's posts regarding the andrew wagon?

[pappums rat]

unvote

i wasnt expecting to leave rvs quite so fast. i will be back later today with a proper post.

[pappums rat]

When you say you see the case against andrew, what are you referring to?

the arguments of those who have voted him thus far and also his history and ISO (although that's quite short at the moment).
I haven't actually read any of his past games you provided me with, I must admit. I'm just taking your word for it regarding his completed games since you've provided the evidence and that can't be argued with. I'm just too lazy to read it right now :s

:/

fine, I've read them now

fast enough

yeah, im calling bullshit here. it would not be possible to read those in four minutes, obviously. idk what you were thinking with that.

vote twistedspoon

[DeathRowKitty]

Unvote: andrew

Vote: Twistedspoon

This wagon is definitely acceptable to me.

[Friend]

I don't think andrew is scum.

What do you think of Twistedspoon's posts regarding the andrew wagon?

I think they're a poor excuse to set up a wagonvote on a weak player like andrew.

[Twistedspoon]

4 mins was long enough to do a quick ISO of a pst game or 2 and skim them.
I'd already looked at a couple before quickly, and I'm already in a game with him too, so I came to a conclusion in that time.

[DeathRowKitty]

I don't think andrew is scum.

What do you think of Twistedspoon's posts regarding the andrew wagon?

I think they're a poor excuse to set up a wagonvote on a weak player like andrew.

Let's assume for the moment that Twistedspoon is scum. Can you explain to me the thought process behind his posts if andrew is town?

[lane0168]

Interesting stuff about Andrew. There is a distinct difference when he plays as scum then when he plays as town. I think right now that he is the best lead, as I see Lane as a townie and I have a gut read of town on Twisted based off prior experience. The cases on Demonhybrid are not nearly persuasive enough to get my vote. And as for Lane vote on MoI...not even close to getting my vote. And I will switch my vote from Shotty because he will answer soon and the pressure that was on him has now dissipated.

UNVOTE: Shotty

VOTE: Andrew

yeah, that moi think has long since been over.

unvote

my suspicions have moved significantly towards andrew and twisted. demon and drk have me convinced and so does tcl. All of them have made posts of substance. Bring up points of substance. Andrew and Twisted have both made huge stretches in their points on me in particularly. Andrew with the ate, twisted with the buddying. Also andrew @demon with the bussing... highly misinformed/misdirected.

Because of both of their ridiculous claims on me, and i have to choose one. twisted's ability to quickscope err.... quick read is phenomonal!!

vote:twisted

[Twistedspoon]

Andrew and Twisted have both made huge stretches in their points on me in particularly.

Because of both of their ridiculous claims on me, and i have to choose one.

lol, so you're admitting it's OMGUS then?

[Friend]

I don't think andrew is scum.

What do you think of Twistedspoon's posts regarding the andrew wagon?

I think they're a poor excuse to set up a wagonvote on a weak player like andrew.

Let's assume for the moment that Twistedspoon is scum. Can you explain to me the thought process behind his posts if andrew is town?

Either to gain town cred when andrew flips town (oh hey look at me I defended a townie I'm great at reading people) or he's looking like he's being undecisive so he doesn't called called out for wagoning.

[Twistedspoon]

:/
I'm not interested in gaining town cred from andrew's flip (should he flip town). I'll say now that he could be scum, and it looks likely so far.
If anything my read on him is between null and mafia; not town

[Magua]

Vote Count 1.4

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

lane0168 (4): andrew94, MagnaofIllusion, DemonHybrid, Twistedspoon

Twistedspoon (4): Friend, pappums rat, DeathRowKitty, lane0168
andrew94 (2): drmyshottyizsik, tclawren
DemonHybrid (1): singersigner

Not voting (1): mockingjaye
V/LA: MagnaofIllusion (3/21), DemonHybrid (3/21)

Deadline is March 30th, 2011, at 7:24pm EST (site time). A countdown to the deadline is here.

[Twistedspoon]

why is are the lane voters in red? :/

[Magua]

why is are the lane voters in red? :/

The lynchee and lynchers in red represents the leading lynch, that is, who would be lynched at deadline if there were no further votes.